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For the record, if you use images and captions in a manner that editorializes the material again, even indirectly, you will most likely be sanctioned. So please be more judicious with such usage from now on. The image/caption being, as you keep saying, "perfectly correct" (in a limited, insular way) does not negate from that issue, and does not provide you with a license to otherwise contravene policy. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 01:18, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
For the record, if you use images and captions in a manner that editorializes the material again, even indirectly, you will most likely be sanctioned. So please be more judicious with such usage from now on. The image/caption being, as you keep saying, "perfectly correct" (in a limited, insular way) does not negate from that issue, and does not provide you with a license to otherwise contravene policy. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 01:18, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:I did not editorialize. Your claim that I did is an error of judgment on your part, in my view. If you want to claim that a statement that you yourself admit is factually completely correct is editorializing then we shall see how the larger Wikipedia community responds to that. [[User:Freeknowledgecreator|Freeknowledgecreator]] ([[User talk:Freeknowledgecreator#top|talk]]) 01:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
:I did not editorialize. Your claim that I did is an error of judgment on your part, in my view. If you want to claim that a statement that you yourself admit is factually completely correct is editorializing then we shall see how the larger Wikipedia community responds to that. [[User:Freeknowledgecreator|Freeknowledgecreator]] ([[User talk:Freeknowledgecreator#top|talk]]) 01:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
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::::Please stop making pointless comments on my talk page. [[User:Freeknowledgecreator|Freeknowledgecreator]] ([[User talk:Freeknowledgecreator#top|talk]]) 01:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
::::Please stop making pointless comments on my talk page. [[User:Freeknowledgecreator|Freeknowledgecreator]] ([[User talk:Freeknowledgecreator#top|talk]]) 01:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
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:::::What is "pointless," Freeknowledgecreator, I am finding, is your inability to be receptive to input which differ from your own view ([[Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Freudian_pictures|another example]]). [[User:El_C|El_C]] 07:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
:::::What is "pointless," Freeknowledgecreator, I am finding, is your inability to be receptive to input which differ from your own view ([[Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard#Freudian_pictures|another example]]). [[User:El_C|El_C]] 07:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC) |
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Covers: T
We've made a ton of progress, thank you! Letter "T" is a long one, so it needs a section all to itself. I think I will stick with 5 or so at a time, so here is the next set: T&T Survival Kit, Tagmar, Taint of Madness, Talislanta Sorcerer's Guide, Tarsus: World Beyond the Frontier. BOZ (talk) 00:50, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
Next up will be: Taste My Steel!, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Adventures (role-playing game supplement), Tékumel: Empire of the Petal Throne, Tempest Feud, Temple of Ra Accursed by Set. BOZ (talk) 00:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
- Done, in those cases in which it was possible to find an appropriate image. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 03:22, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! Next up are Tenchi Muyo! (role-playing game), Terra Incognita (role-playing game), Terra Primate, Terror from the Stars. BOZ (talk) 05:23, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
Up, next up we start the "The" titles. Because of the way I used to keep track of articles as we have been moving along, all the titles starting with "The" were listed under the letter "T", which ultimately makes it one of - if not the - longest letters to go through. So, might as well get started! The first five of these are The AADA Road Atlas and Survival Guide, The Adventure of the Jade Jaguar, The Arasaka Brainworm, The Arcanum (Atlantis), The Arkham Evil. BOZ (talk) 00:43, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
- I recently started Galaxy Guide 1: A New Hope, Galaxy Guide 2: Yavin and Bespin, Galaxy Guide 3: The Empire Strikes Back. BOZ (talk) 03:51, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
Picking back up with "The", next we have The Armory Volume 1, The Astrogators Chartbook, The Atlas of the Imperium, The Authority Role-Playing Game, The Book of Crafts. BOZ (talk) 01:25, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- I started two new ones today, GateWar and Gods of Glorantha. BOZ (talk) 21:34, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
The next "The" articles will be The Book of Ebon Bindings, The Book of Ruins, The Book of Shadows (Mage: The Ascension), The Book of Sigils, The Broken Covenant of Calebais. BOZ (talk) 12:22, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
The next set of "The" articles are The Bronze Grimoire, The Cairo Guidebook, The Castle Perilous, The Chronicles of Talislanta, The Circle and M.E.T.E.. BOZ (talk) 12:17, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
- Earlier this week, I started Champions: New Millennium, Pirates & Privateers, Cloaks (Over the Edge). BOZ (talk) 13:25, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
Continuing on with "The", we have The Cleopatra Gambit, The Compact Arkham Unveiled, The Compleat Adventurer, The Compleat Alchemist, The Compleat Spell Caster. BOZ (talk) 00:17, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- One more that I started today: Green and Pleasant Land. BOZ (talk) 20:55, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
- Earlier this week, I started these: Book of the Light, Blood of the Valiant, Book of the Wyrm, Shadows over Scotland, Night's Watch (Green Ronin Publishing). BOZ (talk) 04:30, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
Black Athena
I don't know whether this was a joke or a slip of the finger [1]. I have reverted it. Sweet6970 (talk) 21:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, Sweet6970. I do not make joke edits. I believe the information I added was correct. You have provided no evidence that it is not. See here, where "Rutland Local History & Record Society" is indeed given as the publisher of the first (1987) edition of Black Athena. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 23:29, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
- When I searched for the book on Amazon I got this:[2] which shows it as being published by Rutgers University Press. This is also what is shown under ‘Editions’ in the Black Athena article. I think the reference to Rutland Local History & Record Society in your link must be a mistake. Sweet6970 (talk) 09:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Sweet6970: You mean the Amazon page for the 2019 reprint? Here is the Amazon entry for the 1987 edition. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:05, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Black Athena does not appear as a publication on the website of Rutland Local History & Record Society. [3] You can see that the publications of this society are related to the local history of Rutland, as you would expect. It is inherently implausible that a controversial book about the racial politics of ancient history written by an academic at an American university should be published by the local history society of a small county in England. Sweet6970 (talk) 12:45, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi. I see your point, but there is no evidence that page is meant to be a complete list of absolutely every publication ever made by the Rutland Local History & Record Society. It may be surprising that Rutland Local History & Record Society would have published the first edition of Black Athena, but that is nonetheless what Amazon.com indicates. It might help to look up other relevant bibliographies or library records and see what they say about it. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 13:42, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- How about this? [4] But I think it’s time to take this discussion to the Talk page of the article, to get input from other editors. Sweet6970 (talk) 18:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'll accept that, since I suspect Open Library is more reliable than Amazon. Consider the disagreement resolved. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 23:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you for your cooperation. Sweet6970 (talk) 09:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- I'll accept that, since I suspect Open Library is more reliable than Amazon. Consider the disagreement resolved. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 23:18, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
- How about this? [4] But I think it’s time to take this discussion to the Talk page of the article, to get input from other editors. Sweet6970 (talk) 18:58, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hi. I see your point, but there is no evidence that page is meant to be a complete list of absolutely every publication ever made by the Rutland Local History & Record Society. It may be surprising that Rutland Local History & Record Society would have published the first edition of Black Athena, but that is nonetheless what Amazon.com indicates. It might help to look up other relevant bibliographies or library records and see what they say about it. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 13:42, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- Black Athena does not appear as a publication on the website of Rutland Local History & Record Society. [3] You can see that the publications of this society are related to the local history of Rutland, as you would expect. It is inherently implausible that a controversial book about the racial politics of ancient history written by an academic at an American university should be published by the local history society of a small county in England. Sweet6970 (talk) 12:45, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- @Sweet6970: You mean the Amazon page for the 2019 reprint? Here is the Amazon entry for the 1987 edition. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:05, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
- When I searched for the book on Amazon I got this:[2] which shows it as being published by Rutgers University Press. This is also what is shown under ‘Editions’ in the Black Athena article. I think the reference to Rutland Local History & Record Society in your link must be a mistake. Sweet6970 (talk) 09:50, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
For the record, if you use images and captions in a manner that editorializes the material again, even indirectly, you will most likely be sanctioned. So please be more judicious with such usage from now on. The image/caption being, as you keep saying, "perfectly correct" (in a limited, insular way) does not negate from that issue, and does not provide you with a license to otherwise contravene policy. El_C 01:18, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- I did not editorialize. Your claim that I did is an error of judgment on your part, in my view. If you want to claim that a statement that you yourself admit is factually completely correct is editorializing then we shall see how the larger Wikipedia community responds to that. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 01:20, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Again, it being "correct" in a limited, insular way, does not negate from it also being also serving to editorialize on a larger context. Yes, if sanctioned, you will have the right of appeal, of course. And otherwise, indeed, we can see if there are other views in the ongoing report. In the meantime, please heed my warning above. El_C 01:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- A correct statement is a correct statement. The accusation of editorializing "on a larger context" is your unsupported claim. I think it is going to be obvious to the larger Wikipedia community, even if not to you, that it is unsupported. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 01:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Sometimes a cigar is not just a cigar. But I acknowledge your view, even though my assessment is that it is in error. El_C 01:32, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Please stop making pointless comments on my talk page. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 01:34, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- What is "pointless," Freeknowledgecreator, I am finding, is your inability to be receptive to input which differ from your own view (another example). El_C 07:43, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- A correct statement is a correct statement. The accusation of editorializing "on a larger context" is your unsupported claim. I think it is going to be obvious to the larger Wikipedia community, even if not to you, that it is unsupported. Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 01:28, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
- Again, it being "correct" in a limited, insular way, does not negate from it also being also serving to editorialize on a larger context. Yes, if sanctioned, you will have the right of appeal, of course. And otherwise, indeed, we can see if there are other views in the ongoing report. In the meantime, please heed my warning above. El_C 01:26, 15 May 2020 (UTC)