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Nature 2021 article
I think this WP entry does not clearly distinguish between "gain of function" and "pathogens of pandemic potential". Correct me if I'm wrong, but the entry has no mention of gain of function that does not involve pathogens or risk of harm. When I did a PubMed search for "gain of function", I got a lot of innocuous research, like gain of function in gene variants on the thrombolytic cascade.
Here's a good recent article from Nature:
- https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02903-x
- The shifting sands of ‘gain-of-function’ research
- The mystery of COVID’s origins has reignited a contentious debate about potentially risky studies and the fuzzy terminology that describes them.
- Amber Dance
- Nature
- 27 October 2021
- It’s no surprise that politicians and scientists would disagree on GOF’s meaning, because it can mean different things in different contexts. At its most innocuous, GOF is a classic genetics term to describe mutations that give a gene, RNA or protein new abilities or expression patterns. Gain of function might result in bacteria that are extra sensitive to potassium ions5, for example, or an Arabidopsis plant with short stems and curly leaves6. A complementary approach — loss-of-function — involves disabling a gene to see what happens to organisms that lack it.
- The term GOF didn’t have much to do with virology until the past decade. Then, the ferret influenza studies came along. In trying to advise the federal government on the nature of such research, the US National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity (NSABB) borrowed the term — and it stuck, says Gigi Gronvall, a biosecurity specialist at the Bloomberg School of Public Health at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland. From that usage, it came to mean any research that improves a pathogen’s abilities to cause disease or spread from host to host.
--Nbauman (talk) 21:48, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Here's a Wall Street Journal video which also makes the point that gain of function research is "the workhorse of modern biology" and is used for research that has nothing to do with infectious disease and doesn't have the same theoretical risks. While this is a YouTube video, it meets WP:RS.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PzJJQa4fQQ
- Supercharging Viruses? Gain of Function Research and the Hunt for Covid’s Origins
- Sep 15, 2021
- Daniella Hernandez
- "Gain of function extends beyond infectious diseases to other fields. There it's not as controversial, because it doesn't carry the same public health risks. Gain of function research is the workhorse of modern biology, so it's unlikely that it will go away altogether."
GOF in cancer research
This article violates WP:WEIGHT by dealing almost exclusively with "pathogens of pandemic potential" and ignoring the more common research that don't involve the pandemic potential issue at all. For example, here's an article in the NEJM about how GOF is used to reprogram exhausted T-cells to produce effector cyctokines against cancer again:
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMcibr2203616
Turbocharging the T Cell to Fight Cancer
Andrea Schietinger
N Engl J Med
2022 Jun 16;386(24):2334-2336.
PMID: 35648702
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMcibr2203616
Why doesn't this Wikipedia entry point out (as the Nature article did) that PPP are only a subset (maybe a small subset) of GOF research?
--Nbauman (talk) 04:39, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
- You are free to edit it so that it does so. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 22:13, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
First Congressional Hearing
"Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., chaired a subcommittee hearing Wednesday on gain-of-function research that may be linked to the COVID-19 pandemic. Pictured: Paul questions Dr. Anthony Fauci during a Nov. 4 committee hearing about the ongoing response to the pandemic." - The Daily Signal, Aug 4, 2022 Ginacanadiangirl (talk) 08:34, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
- The Daily Signal is not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia. [3] [4] — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 14:15, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
"Sens. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) and Maggie Hassan (D-N.H.) are leading the first congressional hearing on gain-of-function research as part of his ongoing efforts to investigate the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic. The hearing comes amid intensifying Republican scrutiny on whether a leak from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) caused the pandemic, as well as possible U.S. funding ties to the gain-of-function research at the facility. Gain-of-function involves enhancing a virus to make it more potent or transmissible." - NTD Ginacanadiangirl (talk) 16:18, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
GoF alters "organism" or pathogen
In the lede, we describe gain of function as "research that genetically alters an organism". I would like to discuss changing the word "organism" to either "pathogen" or "infectious agent", as much gain of function research is done on viruses, which are not universally regarded as organisms. Poppa shark (talk) 22:14, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
- GoF as a term does not only refer to pathogens. It also refers to experiments done on zebrafish, cancer cells, frogs, mice, etc. Just because that is the most popular public usage does not mean that is how we refer to it on Wikipedia. Wikipedia reflects the scholarly sources on every subject. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 16:19, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- I suppose that's a fair response. Do you have any ideas for the article to demonstrate that it can include research done on viruses, while also including non-infectious organisms? Poppa shark (talk) 16:54, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
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