Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests
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Technical requests
Uncontroversial technical requests
- Draft:Malaysia Babydoll Foxx (currently a redirect to Malaysia Babydoll Foxx) → Malaysia Babydoll Foxx (move · discuss) – move into main space over redirect --Another Believer (Talk) 14:06, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ko Yong-hui (currently a redirect to Ko Yong Hui) → Ko Yong Hui (move · discuss) – Per DPRK romanization standards there has to be no hyphen, cf. DPRK Kim Il Sung and ROK Kim Il-sung, DPRK Kim Jong Un and ROK Kim Jong-un etc. Even ROK's Park Chung Hee is almost always written without a hyphen. MagnusRegnumAntichristiAdvenit (talk) 08:52, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Kim Hyong-jik → Kim Hyong Jik (currently a redirect back to Kim Hyong-jik) (move · discuss) – This is the father of Kim Il Sung. Per DPRK romanization standards there has to be no hyphen, cf. DPRK Kim Il Sung and ROK Kim Il-sung, DPRK Kim Jong Un and ROK Kim Jong-un etc. Even ROK's Park Chung Hee is almost always written without a hyphen. MagnusRegnumAntichristiAdvenit (talk) 07:57, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- For the two North Korea-related requests here, note that the text in the articles often fails to reflect this hyphenation rule, either for the subjects themselves or for many other people who are mentioned. If this is intended to be a rule going forward, a great amount of cleanup for many articles will be needed. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- It's intended to be a rule, indeed, thus I'm asking for these pages (or atleast the one about Ko Yong-hui) to be moved. For this very reason, after discussions, Kim Il-sung, Kim Jong-il, Kim Jong-un and even ROK Park Chung-hee were recently moved to Kim Il Sung, Kim Jong Il, Kim Jong Un and Park Chung Hee. When regarding people from the DPRK, we should use their romanization and not the ROK one. MagnusRegnumAntichristiAdvenit (talk) 14:38, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- For the two North Korea-related requests here, note that the text in the articles often fails to reflect this hyphenation rule, either for the subjects themselves or for many other people who are mentioned. If this is intended to be a rule going forward, a great amount of cleanup for many articles will be needed. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Voŭčyn (currently a redirect to Vowchyn) → Vowchyn (move · discuss) – Reversal of last move which does not follow WP:BELARUSIANNAMES. Mellk (talk) 02:19, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Like a Dragon 8: Infinite Wealth (currently a redirect to Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth) → Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME and official name OceanHok (talk) 11:24, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Disgaea: Vows of the Virtueless (currently a redirect to Disgaea 7: Vows of the Virtueless) → Disgaea 7: Vows of the Virtueless (move · discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME and official name OceanHok (talk) 11:47, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Requests to revert undiscussed moves
- Roaming Regulation 2022 (currently a redirect to European Union roaming regulations) → European Union roaming regulations (move · discuss) – User Wikidea seems to have a long-running goal to move this page to this name on the basis it is a "proper noun" (in fact they had to move it twice in January to bypass technical constraints to get it to this page). See the last revert mentioned on the talk page in 2018. The official journal text ( https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:02012R0531-20170615#tocId4 ) has zero matches for this "proper" name, and there is no evidence provided that this is a more common name than a direct description of the regulations. Estoy Aquí (talk) 06:03, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
Contested technical requests
- St. Paul Lutheran High School (Missouri) (currently a redirect to St. Paul Lutheran High School) → St. Paul Lutheran High School (move · discuss) – Target title turned into a DAB unnecessarily, but the second entry is now housed in a hatnote in the original title. Intrisit (talk) 09:10, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose - The St. Paul High School in Concordia, Missouri, is not the same school as the one in St. Paul, Minnesota, that merged into Concordia Academy, so the DAB page is needed. Another editor has already reverted the hatnote. Indyguy (talk) 16:19, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- So, if I've understood this correctly, the Concordia Academy is in St Paul, and the St Paul High School is in Concordia. How very confusing! — Amakuru (talk) 12:41, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Support This should just be hatnoted per WP:ONEOTHER because there is only one school currently called St. Lutheran High School and thus it is the PRIMARYTOPIC. voorts (talk/contributions) 16:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- This is a WP:PCM and should be taken to a full WP:RM discussion. -Kj cheetham (talk) 08:52, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Daniella Perkins (currently a redirect to Daniella Taylor) → Daniella Taylor (move · discuss) – Daniella has changed her name Justinletterasst (talk) 19:38, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Justinletterasst: Daniella Perkins appears to be her WP:COMMONNAME. It's the name under which she is credited in her work and by which she is referred in references. It's also the main name on her Youtube channel, so she doesn't seem to have stopped using Perkins. See WP:NAMECHANGES WP:SPNC. This would require a requested-move discussion (and some supporting evidence). SilverLocust 💬 21:07, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Daniella Taylor should probably be a redirect at least. -Kj cheetham (talk) 19:15, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Justinletterasst: Daniella Perkins appears to be her WP:COMMONNAME. It's the name under which she is credited in her work and by which she is referred in references. It's also the main name on her Youtube channel, so she doesn't seem to have stopped using Perkins. See WP:NAMECHANGES WP:SPNC. This would require a requested-move discussion (and some supporting evidence). SilverLocust 💬 21:07, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- WVCW (FM) → WVCW (move · discuss) – New station calls for what was formerly WJBR; article formerly under this title which did not use FCC-issued calls has been moved to WVCW (Virginia Commonwealth University) to facilitate this move. Nate • (chatter) 23:36, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Contesting this as a WP:PCM. No evidence presented that the page in question is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this, with the Virginia page having resided there for many years. Google searches suggest it is at least a contender for the name, and I have turned the base page into a disambiguation between the two. — Amakuru (talk) 11:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- I have no objection to the disambiguation; thank you for doing this. Nate • (chatter) 17:53, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Pan flute → Panpipes (currently a redirect back to Pan flute) (move · discuss) – The Google ngram-viewer shows that the name "panpipes" (with a small p) is much the most common name in printed material for this instrument, whereas "pan flute" is rarely used. It would make sense therefore to have "Panpipes" as the title of the main page, and "Pan flute" for the redirect. This move has already been suggested by another user. Kanjuzi (talk) 11:44, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- As I told you at Teahouse and replied on the article-talkpage, there is reasonable objection to this request based on move-history of certain articles. DMacks (talk) 12:05, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Father of 4 (album) → Father of 4 (currently a redirect instead to Father of Four) (move · discuss) – A user moved it to separate the difference between this and Father of Four (film). The number is written in the album and in the word form in the film. I do not think anybody would get it confused, but we should add a hatnote to help. 23.134.91.240 (talk) 06:52, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Personally I think the change to use disambiguation was a good one, and I'd oppose moving back. Father of 4 and Father of Four are basically the same thing for most people, and indeed if you search for the latter on Google you get a lot of results for the album. That said though, this was a recent undiscussed move, so procedurally I suppose it could be moved back and an RM started. — Amakuru (talk) 10:08, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- That was me. Oppose moving it back; we had this discussion a couple years ago with Perfect Ten/Perfect 10, and the consensus was that they are considered ambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 15:18, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Father of Four (film) → Father of Four (move · discuss) – A user moved it to separate the difference between this and Father of 4 (album). The number is written in the album and in the word form in the film. I do not think anybody would get it confused, but we should add a hatnote to help. 23.134.91.240 (talk) 06:52, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- See Father of Four entry above. — Amakuru (talk) 10:08, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Secondary Professional School in Stará Turá, Slovakia (currently a redirect to Secondary Industrial School in Stará Turá, Slovakia) → Secondary Industrial School in Stará Turá, Slovakia (move · discuss) – It seems like the "industrial" ("priemyselná") is a more correct name after 1 September. Both articles were created by the same user Aaa000000 and the same IP-user 85.237.234.92 (probably the IP belongs to Aaa000000) redirected "professional" to "industrial" both here and in Slovak Wikipedia. The official website of the school also tells that it was renamed (to "priemyselná"). Maybe "Technical" would be even more correct translation, but I don't know about that Oloddin (talk) 04:45, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. No evidence of either name, or any other English name for that matter, on the school website or in linked sources. Essentially, the article is poorly sourced and the question of meeting WP:NSCHOOL is a valid one. — kashmīrī TALK 07:11, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- If this is kept, I'd suggest renaming it to Stredná priemyselná škola, Stará Turá per WP:UE since there is no sourcing to confirm any sort of English language title for this instutution. — Amakuru (talk) 11:25, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment. No evidence of either name, or any other English name for that matter, on the school website or in linked sources. Essentially, the article is poorly sourced and the question of meeting WP:NSCHOOL is a valid one. — kashmīrī TALK 07:11, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ranger Regiment (United Kingdom) → Ranger Regiment (currently a redirect instead to Ranger) (move · discuss) – Upon looking through the DAB for the target title, it seems that militaries/armies previously using this name have since changed names, making this a half-unnecessary DABber. I stand corrected though. Intrisit (talk) 12:17, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Possible other contenders for the title appear to be - Royal Ranger Regiment, 1st Scout Ranger Regiment, 75th Ranger Regiment, so I'm not sure if this is necessarily uncontroversial. The UK one might be primary topic, but not sure it's a nod-through without further discussion or evidence. — Amakuru (talk) 12:40, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- CBS Dream Team (currently a redirect to CBS WKND) → CBS WKND (move · discuss) – New title for this TV program block came into effect on October 7. Subsequent edits to the existing redirect have blocked my ability to move to the new title. — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 14:47, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- This should be contested as a move to CBS Weekend instead as a more proper disambiguation and the target being nigh confusing to spell out for an average person. We had the same issue with its previous branding name when it had an ellipsis with a non-sensical exclamation (which was eventually removed). The average reader should be put first over branding here (and protection should remain to carry it out). Also to be noted is that we don't usually source the site listed above as it rarely is reliable outside of set redesigns which are WP:OR in themselves (as networks rarely publicize branding changes for E/I blocks outside of press releases). Nate • (chatter) 21:36, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- It should also be noted that any attempt to search for "CBS WKND", even with quotes, directs me to 'did you mean CBS Weekend News?', making for just a poor overall name with what is proposed; either CBS Weekend or CBS Weekend (programming block) should be considered over the actual title. Nate • (chatter) 01:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- I hear you (and 100% agree with omitting "... it's epic!" from the previous name) but is there a policy on where WP draws the line on these disemvoweled cases? I doubt anyone other than hardcore Fall Out Boy fans are intentionally typing out "Thnks fr th Mmrs" when looking for that particular song, but there doesn't seem to have been any challenge to that title. Moreover there are a few other works or organizations with "WKND" as part of their names to represent "weekend", including (perhaps most pertinently to this scenario) wknd@stv. — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 13:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Given this is WP:PCM, it should be taken to a full WP:RM discussion. -Kj cheetham (talk) 14:35, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Anti-religious campaign of Communist Romania (currently a redirect to Anti-Religious Campaign in communist Romania) → Religious persecution in Communist Romania (currently a redirect instead to Anti-Religious Campaign in communist Romania) (move · discuss) – The article was moved by User:MaxBech1975 without discussing anything and not even explaining their move. Religious persecution in.... is also common on Wiki articles such as Religious persecution in the Roman Empire,. Toptanazikov (talk) 18:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- @Toptanazikov: The title you want to go back to was also an undiscussed move. It has not been the title for the past 5 years. The current title has been in place for the past 2.5 years and is closer to the original title, Romania Anti-Religious Campaign. This doesn't seem to fall within WP:RMUM/WP:TITLECHANGE. This move is potentially controversial, so it would require a requested-move discussion, which you can begin by clicking "discuss" on your request. You can remove this request after opening a discussion (or if you do not want to continue). SilverLocust 💬 23:36, 9 October 2023 (UTC)