Talk:Killing of Shireen Abu Akleh

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Presumption of investigation

The investigation into this reporter's death is not even complete and yet the article asserts she was killed by the IDF without concrete proof. This needs to be changed. 63.228.78.85 (talk) 20:33, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Israeli occupation forces

What's with the frequent use of Israeli occupation forces rather than the correct title of IDF? Strikes any reader as being either activist written or highly leading.

Needs to be changed or explained. 49.224.113.33 (talk) 09:43, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Palestine is occupied by Israeli forces. The West Bank is occupied by Israeli forces. Gaza is an open air prison maintained by Israeli forces. Multiple UN resolutions have condemned Israeli for stealing Palestinian land (Palestinians people who are more indigenous to that region of the Earth than many of the Ashkenazi living there now) and building illegal settlements on it. What Israel is doing is genocide and ethnic cleansing. Benjamin Netanyahu and Itmar Ben Givr are actual far right wing fascists. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8801:BE28:A800:FC35:E457:36D5:B62F (talk) 12:32, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Shireen abu Akleh was Palestinian-American.

Why is Akleh not identified here as an American citizen? Is it because it's too embarrassing to again have to explain why Israelis are assassinating American women? (i.e. Rachel Corrie) 2600:8801:BE28:A800:FC35:E457:36D5:B62F (talk) 12:36, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure what happened there - it was correct on her main biography. Iskandar323 (talk) 13:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 October 2023

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Murder of Shireen Abu Akleh → Killing of Shireen Abu Akleh – I'm not sure the current title is in line with WP:DEATHS. While the circumstances of this shooting are highly questionable, no murder or war crime proceedings have been initiated and the possibility remains that it was unintentional or a case of manslaughter. Truecrimefan22 (talk) 13:40, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Rreagan007 (talk) 17:13, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Per WP:DEATHS, we don't ascribe criminal blame to people (in this case, allegedly a soldier) without a criminal conviction. This has held in other renaming discussions, such as 2023 Hamra junction shooting. Longhornsg (talk) 17:59, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Very dubious circumstances, but no murder conviction. Clyde _{[trout needed]} 05:01, 21 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]