Talk:List of presidents of the Judicial Yuan

	This article was reviewed by member(s) of WikiProject Articles for creation. The project works to allow users to contribute quality articles and media files to the encyclopedia and track their progress as they are developed. To participate, please visit the project page for more information.Articles for creationWikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creationTemplate:WikiProject Articles for creationAfC
	This article was accepted from this draft on 10 June 2020 by reviewer Calliopejen1 (talk · contribs).

Taiwan Low‑importance

	Taiwan portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Taiwan, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Taiwan on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.TaiwanWikipedia:WikiProject TaiwanTemplate:WikiProject TaiwanTaiwan
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Lists

	This article is within the scope of WikiProject Lists, an attempt to structure and organize all list pages on Wikipedia. If you wish to help, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion.ListsWikipedia:WikiProject ListsTemplate:WikiProject ListsList
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Law

	Law portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Law, an attempt at providing a comprehensive, standardised, pan-jurisdictional and up-to-date resource for the legal field and the subjects encompassed by it.LawWikipedia:WikiProject LawTemplate:WikiProject Lawlaw
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Requested move 12 July 2024

It has been proposed in this section that multiple pages be renamed and moved.

A bot will list this discussion on the requested moves current discussions subpage within an hour of this tag being placed. The discussion may be closed 7 days after being opened, if consensus has been reached (see the closing instructions). Please base arguments on article title policy, and keep discussion succinct and civil.

Please use {{subst:requested move}}. Do not use {{requested move/dated}} directly.

Links: current log • target log • direct move

– WP:PRIMARYTOPIC/WP:COMMONNAME; in line with several countries articles. For User:Butterdiplomat, the name is chosen as seen in articles from BBC and South China Morning Post. Do you oppose or support? Silence of Lambs (talk) 13:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BilledMammal (talk) 05:38, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Chief Justice of Taiwan. The BBC article cited above says "Hsu Tzong-li chief justice of Taiwan's Constitutional Court", but other articles go the other way ("Judicial Yuan President Lai In-jaw" [1], "Taiwan Judicial Yuan president" [2]). According to an official website [3], he is both "Chief Justice & President of Judicial Yuan". The constitution according to [4] says "The Judicial Yuan shall have a President and a Vice President" and so does the constitutional amendment [5] ("15 grand justices, including a president and a vice president of the Judicial Yuan"), and neither says "chief justice". And "Chief Justice of Taiwan" is not found in ngrams [6], nor in Google Scholar search, although it's not completely unheard of. Overall I don't believe the assertion of WP:COMMONNAME. Also, I would give consistency with other countries (or non-country-level jurisdictions) very little weight, as it's expected for naming practices to vary from place to place, both as to the title and what the title is "of"; for example, President of the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom.
As for the legislative position, I'm not sure. My impression is that it is extremely commonly described as "speaker" in news sources. On the other hand ngrams favours president [7]. Formally, for what it's worth, the title is president ([8], "The Legislative Yuan shall have a President and a Vice President"). Adumbrativus (talk) 04:35, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose both per Adumbrativus. I advise the nominator to present stronger evidence of common names, as Adumbrativus has done, in move requests like this, where it’s not immediately clear why we should deviate from the current titles and official names. Toadspike [Talk] 14:43, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Close After a nominator has been indefinitely blocked and no one has supported a move, I don't think it is considerate to keep on relisting things. Thincat (talk) 13:05, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose both also WP:COMMONNAME is not the only factoring for what the title of a Wikipedia article should be considered as and I do not see what is wrong with the current title or what a new title would be trying to achieve. Jorahm (talk) 17:02, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]