Jump to content

Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/New page reviewer

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by MusikAnimal (talk | contribs) at 23:35, 31 October 2016 (done (using userRightsManager)). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

New page reviewer

Hey look! First! Anyways, I used to frequently review articles. Even though I do it occasionally now, I still reduce the backlog by quite a few pages. I try to help out at the work group. I'm an established user that also has the autopatrolled flag, meaning I know how to make proper articles and what to send to AfD/CSD. Thanks, Dat GuyTalkContribs 21:21, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Dat Guy - We don't have the New page reviewer right checkbox in Special:UserRights yet (not sure why we're accepting requests when we can't even grant them yet, lol). Also, looking at your logs, I believe you have enough reviews/patrols to be automatically granted the flag without the need to add a request here :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:57, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Oshwah: my fault - we're discussing on WT:PERM if we should shut this back down or just let these "early applications" come in. The "grandfathered" people were already notified and don't have to "apply" (list here: Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Reviewers/grandfathered). — xaosflux Talk 23:01, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Xaosflux - Ha! No worries, dude. Was just a bit confused ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:02, 28 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Per Oshwah's note above - Oshwah if you did not intend for this to be approved, please revert this. — xaosflux Talk 01:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No objections here! You did exactly what I would have done. Happy Friday! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:44, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have over 200 patrols, but outside of mainspace, so I wasn't included on the grandfather list. I also pass the edit count requirement. I don't patrol in the mainspace, but I do sometimes do work in the file realm which includes patrolling new files. AntiCompositeNumber (Leave a message) 02:30, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
X!'s tools says I have over 1,100 patrols, so I believe I can be grandfathered into the right. —MRD2014 (talkcontribs) 02:38, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Am already semi-active in NPP and have not had any (recent - I rightly did when I was a bit if a newbie years back) patrols contested. Would like to be able to coontinue to help out in this way. Mike1901 (talk) 06:37, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:04, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have arround thousand new page reviews just not 200 that are in the grandfather window. JbhTalk 01:11, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:07, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't used the curation tool much yet, but I have done a significant amount of patrols, admittedly through serendipity rather than looking at the new pages feed. At any rate, I think my reviews and tagging have had sufficient quality overall. Note that I easily pass the editing/moving experience tests, and I'm a top-400 editor. Stevie is the man! TalkWork 15:17, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Donexaosflux Talk 19:15, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't meet the 200 reviews criteria for being automatic granted this user right. I have reviewed several thousand pages and have four plus years of experience doing so, but I use Twinkle and only mark pages as reviewed if I am confident that they meet our basic inclusion criteria. My CSD log is here. - MrX 13:43, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:31, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have been reviewing new pages for a while, and I believe I made the grandfathered right count, but I am unsure, so I am requesting it here. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 18:47, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The "grandfathering" database reports were not perfect - if you didn't get a massmessage you didn't get "automatically" added - but you will certainly be reviewed here before it goes live. — xaosflux Talk 19:14, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done ~ Rob13Talk 04:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
...

Good day,

I speak Russian and English.

I have the edit reviewer flag at Russian Wikipedia, allowing me to review edits in flagged revs.

Back in 2015, I participated in recent edits and recent pages review (review Draft: submissions and new main space submissions queues for several weeks) at English Wikipedia. As a part of the new page review process, I wanted to do some additional tasks -- check for copyright violations, save local drafts not visible on-site, leave personal messages at users' talk pages with links to wikiprojects, view recent additions to a category -- but the website made these tasks close to impossible. I had burnt out. I bailed out gently by backing out of the process gently without strong feelings.

Now, the website hasn't changed much, and I do not expect myself to return to active new page patrol immediately; I only expect this to happen after I develop a wiki app for my desktop, and a set of appropriate scripts for it to assist me.

Meanwhile, I would like to ask to have the new page patrol flag to assist in reviewing new pages with a small pace from the queues or from live chat queries (including the help channel) from newcomers; in doing so I confirm that I try to be gentle and do such work in a consistent and reliable manner.

My expectations for the process are that I will...

  • work slowly and consistently
  • do it regularly
  • be approachable
  • review page status several days after review and follow-up actively
  • search for references on a topic before making an approve or delete decision
  • format and revise qualifying pages adequately prior to approving them
  • investigate the user focus and point them to any wikiprojects they may find useful
  • notify users of the decision, while showing appreciation for their work
  • be emotionally stable and resilient
  • communicate in a concise, open-minded manner

Please ask me questions when looking into this request. If the new page reviewer flag has activity requirements, I would be glad to set aside a particular amount of time on weekly basis. If this is the case, please let me know.

Regards, Gryllida (talk) 06:42, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done 58 edits in the last two years do not demonstrate that you can fulfill the requirements orthat you ave a need for this tool. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:26, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Pending changes reviewer. I'm not as active as before but still would like to have it handy. —azuki (talk · contribs · email) 00:23, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done Your last 50 edits take us back to August 2016, and your last 500 in the mainspace take us back over a year, so it's difficult to judge your current knowledge of content policies and community norms. Looking at your CSD log, I see a few mistakes relevant to this right, particularly an incorrect A11 of Pizza Fries and another incorrect A11 of 3d v-cutting (which was deleted, but for another reason entirely). I also question why you patrolled this revision of New Zealand Force South East Asia. It was later developed into a better article, but it would have been much better to either leave it in the queue or help improve it yourself. Basic things like wikifying that article, for instance, would be expected of someone patrolling new pages. ~ Rob13Talk 02:38, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how many patrols I've done since I joined in 2007 (as User:Vivio Testarossa), however I think that I'm pretty good with my ability to discern which pages should and shouldn't be marked as patrolled. Feinoha Talk 01:21, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Donexaosflux Talk 11:49, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I gave more than 500 edits and almost getting the experiences from 2 months. Recently, I have been granted the "Extended confirmed user" right. Kinflyy consider me. Jayabilla (talk) 14:38, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done Has 0 patrols or curration logs, has never used talk: or user_talk: pages. If you are interested in patrolling in the future, please review all of Wikipedia:New pages patrol first. — xaosflux Talk 14:51, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I do anti-vandalism patrol using twinkle and huggle, my understanding is if I request CSD or PROD a new article it will no longer be marked as patrolled, thus my request for the new permission. While I usually focus on CSDs for new articles I do occasionally tag them with maintenance tags. I don't use the curation tool much (I find it clunky) I tend to use Twinkle instead. --Cameron11598 (Talk) 23:23, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Donexaosflux Talk 15:03, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have done many page curation reviews this year (2016) as well as last year (2015), and will need to apply so that I can continue using the page curation toolbar. My Twinkle CSD log is filled with lots of red links. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 01:42, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@GeoffreyT2000: You marked Narek Aslanyan as reviewed, but it has currently been prodded. Could you comment on that article? ~ Rob13Talk 02:48, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@BU Rob13: I marked it as reviewed after adding a linkrot tag to it. The article is now at AfD. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 04:49, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@GeoffreyT2000: I was more looking for a comment on it being reviewed but later nominated for AfD. The hope with new page patrolling is that questionable articles are caught and nominated for deletion if necessary. Do you think the article should be deleted? Would you do something differently if you reviewed the article again? ~ Rob13Talk 04:54, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@BU Rob13: Yes, I will comment at the AfD. Anyway, there are 3 more articles I have marked as reviewed, namely University of South Dakota Sanford School of Medicine, which has a category added by its creator; Venkatraopet, Eluru, which needs additional references; and 2008 Breeders' Cup Classic, which does not have any issues AFAICT. GeoffreyT2000 (talk, contribs) 14:56, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is borderline for me, so I'll leave it to another admin to provide a second opinion. ~ Rob13Talk 18:01, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Xaosflux kind of told me to apply here, I have been reviewing pages for a while. Since the right is coming out soon, and I lose my acces to patrolling pages in the future. I'll request the right so I can continue to patrol new pages. My CSD log has a lot of red links also... Mostly from getting rid of old AfC Drafts. Yoshi24517Chat Online 01:50, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note, I gave directions as to where to apply - but have not personally reviewed Yoshi24517's patrols. — xaosflux Talk 01:56, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That's why I said kind of. :-) Yoshi24517Chat Online 02:15, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I have two questions for you: How many patrols have you made in 2016 using the Page Curation Tool? Have you read the tutorial for new page reviewing and if so, when?--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:30, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I believe that this user rights will be helpful to me. I've been reviewing new pages for a year now. Please refer to my CSD log. Thanks Ayub407talk 07:31,
You appear to have used the Page Curation tool only once in 2016. What other tasks do think belong to reviewing new pages besides tagging for speedy deletion? --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:40, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Normally, ensuring that it meets the guidelines of Wikipedia and free from copyvios. And I prefer to use twinkle for patrolling new pages over the Page Curation tool. Ayub407talk 17:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
From your answer, you do not appear to be fully familiar with 50% of the scope of this task, or with the important additional features in the official Page Curation tools. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:19, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am fully familiar with changes applied and the scope of the task. I don't even mind if I'm required to use the Page Curation tools. The key thing for patrolling new pages is to ensure it meets the criteria of the Wikipedia (For example WP:N, WP:BLP, etc..), ensuring it does not meet any one of the inclusion criteria stated here, checking for any copyvios (For example 1, 2 and so on....), improving new articles by adding wikilinks, formant fixing, categorizing and so on and lastly helping out new users. I'll consider in moving pages to draft via the Page Curation tools if the article has the potential for it to be accepted by giving it's creator more time to improve it. Ayub407talk 13:33, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
One more point to add, I am aware and willing to face the vast amount of responsibilities if granted the New page reviewer rights. I will utilize it to the fullest for the betterment of the encyclopedia. I have read and understood the guidelines of this user rights. Ayub407talk 15:44, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am an active new page patroller, tagging articles for maintenance and deletion whenever appropriate. I intend to continue my work as a NPP, and I believe I have demonstrated sufficient familiarity with Wikipedia's policy on deletion and article tags to merit this right. Thank you. Dps04 (talk) 14:51, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Apart from tagging for deletion, wjat other tasks do you belive are part of the new Page reviewer remit?--Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:48, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Although I generally focus on tagging articles for proposed / speedy deletion whenever appropriate, occasionally I do add article tags, stub tags or manually improve an article so it complies with the policies, before marking the article patrolled. These are, in my opinion, within the remit of NPPs. Additionally, although I admit I rarely did this before, mis-titled articles should be moved before marked as patrolled. --Dps04 (talk) 10:42, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You have only used the Page Curation tool 3 times. Reviewers are needed who are also generally prepared to undertake the other important 50% of the reviewer tasks besides rapid ragging for deletion. Can you confirm that you have read the new, updated tutorial for New Page Reviewer? --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:52, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't been using page curation until very recently, because I was comfortable with patrolling pages in Special:NewPages manually, using Twinkie. I am aware of the advantages of Page curation over manual patrolling (e.g. it does list a lot more information about an article), and I don't see a problem switching to page curation if I am required to. With regards to the "new, updated tutorial", if you are referring to Wikipedia:New pages patrol, then yes, I have read it in its entirety. At the end of the day, I think the whole point of your question is to confirm whether I understand (1) patrolling new pages does not only mean marking pages for deletion, but also entails tagging articles for maintenance and engaging in article cleanups in accordance with the policies, and (2) the NPP right comes with hefty responsibilities, and users granted with it are expected to possess sufficient, if not extensive knowledge on wikipedia's policies on deletion, maintenance, and manual of style, just to name a few. If I haven't misrepresented you, and this indeed is what you were trying to ask, then yes, I believe I have read and understood the duties expected of a NPP. --Dps04 (talk) 17:07, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
If I may add, I also take note of the importance of NPPs being able to communicate well with new page creators, particularly new users. I believe I have also done so in several previous occasions. Cheers, Dps04 (talk) 04:12, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I still patrol new pages to keep out of Wikipedia from turning into LinkedIn or Facebook. also, my CSD log has a bunch a redlinks. KGirlTrucker81 huh? what I'm been doing 10:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As someone active in anti-vandalism (which involves dealing with a lot of new pages), and I believe I would be good at performing NPP. I'm actually very much in the same boat as Cameron11598 (the request above this one) is. I've also answered lots of questions over at the Teahouse, which, for those who don't know, is a place for new users to come and ask almost any question and get it answered by an experienced editor. Gestrid (talk) 02:17, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've updated my application to include more about my interactions with new users. Gestrid (talk) 13:25, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I request permission for New Page Reviewer. I have been on WP since 2012, with over 13,600 manual edits. I already have rollback and pending changes rights. I have not abused these tools. I believe I am in good standing with the community, and have a good grasp of new page patrolling. I would like to contribute to this sometimes thankless task more, and request permission for it. It would certainly assist my further usefulness to the project, and I believe I would make a responsible job of it. I have been following closely the rationale and discussion behind the changes that Kudpung has successfully initiated, and I agree with the reform. I confirm that I have read and understood the updated guidance. Lastly, I am familiar with the mechanics of the curation tool, and I believe I have used it correctly in the past, and as an experienced user can identify a viable new article when presented, while identifying areas for constructive improvement with sensitivity. Equally I would not hesitate to recommend speedy deletion to problomatic contributions. I would like to expand my activity in this area, as it is a critical job for all volunteers who wish to expand their usefulness to the project. It would also be beneficial for any RfA request that I may attempt in the future. Irondome (talk) 04:49, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
(Non-administrator comment) I'm not sure if we have that bot removing extraneous headers from requests on this page yet, so I went ahead and manually removed one from this request. Gestrid (talk) 04:59, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Gestrid: The bot is off for this page right now - if everything goes right should be on by tomorrow. — xaosflux Talk 11:45, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Seeking NPP rights to continue with New Page Patrol. I have been occasionally new page patrolling on and off for most of this year, taking the time to ensure I am 100% confident as to the decision I am making in relation to a page, due to the nature of the role to the operation of Wikipedia. While I, at one point earlier this year, did make a mistake by tagging a A7 without allowing sufficent time for further work on the article to be done, I have learnt from this - other than this, I haven't been involved in any issues while NPPing. I confirm that I have re-read the NPP tutorial, and am aware of the seriousness of the role towards both new editors and preventing inappropriate pages from entering the encyclopedia. sandgemADDICT yeah? 05:26, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've made many patrols over my time here. I believe I have the experience to use this right with responsibility and precision. — Yellow Dingo (talk) 06:44, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
To continue my patrolling of new pages which, I do most days, I confirm that I have read the NPP guidelines XyzSpaniel Talk Page 20:41, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
 Done MusikAnimal talk 23:35, 31 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]