Talk:Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer)

Human Gestation

The article states: "In April 1999, Ronaldo married female Brazilian footballer Milene Domingues, at the time pregnant with the couple's first son, Ronald ... The couple had a son, Ronald (born in Milan, on 6 April 2000)." So, my question, women are carrying babies for 12 months now? They married in April 1999, she was pregnant with their first son, and then that first son was born twelve months later. Something is not quite right here. 68.147.179.172 (talk) 21:25, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Brazil Team Section

someone has vandalized the 1997 team list. please edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.224.166 (talk) 22:31, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Honours section

The honours section only acknowledges the bronze medal at the '96 Olympic Games. Can someone expand this to include the other things he won, especially including the World Cup. I'm unsure whether personal acheivements (Golden Shoe, World player of the year etc.) and domestic competitions won (I'm sure he'll have won the Copa Libertadores, Champions League, national leagues and cups some time in his career) etc. but I know for definite he hasn't just won a bronze in the Atlanta Olympics. Richard n 00:36, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Date of birth

According to the article, he was born on September 18th, but is listed on September 22, which is the correct one? On his PlayStation game "Ronaldo V-Football" his bio states that his birthday is September 22 (September 18 is incorrect) The article should be corrected.85.27.11.201 (talk) 11:47, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

See the above talk about Date of Birth, why the confuse.. September 22 is the correct one according to FIFA, Iv'e fixed it now, here is few refs for it aswell, [1] [2]
  – HonorTheKing (talk) 12:06, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Please see the section above. His father had to collect money and delayed for 4 days after Ronaldo's birth to register him, so 18 September is the correct one. Matthew_hk tc 16:27, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

And it discussed before, see talk archive. Matthew_hk tc 16:43, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

What proof are there for that the authors statement is true? Is that anthing that has been confirmed by Ronaldo himself? Karbuncle (talk) 19:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Surname

His surname is "Nazário de Lima", as his father is "Nélio Nazário de Lima", while his mother is "Sônia dos Santos Barata" aka "Sônia Barata Nazário de Lima". The "Nazário de Lima" may came from the composite of grandfather and grandma surname but no source could verify it. So, Template:Portuguese name isn't suitable. Matthew_hk tc 16:23, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from 83.174.34.4, 21 April 2011

In the article about Ronaldo, the great Brazilian footballer, his birthdate is said to be September 18 1976. However, in the same article in other languages, thebirthdate is Semptember 22.

His official site (http://www.ronaldohome.com/) informs his birthdate as Semptember 22.

Please change the date in the English article and also the informations about Births in the pages of both days

Thanks

83.174.34.4 (talk) 20:30, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Not done: A personal web site isn't always reliable so we would need another source. ~~EBE123~~ ^talk_Contribs 20:28, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Many sites claimed the official site of Ronaldo, the site above is a wordpress generated fans site. Matthew_hk tc 11:56, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

The Fifa squad sheet lists his birthday as 22nd September 1976, (http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/archive/germany2006/teams/team=43924.html) the Wikipedia page on 2006 world cup Squad lists his birth date as 22nd Sept as well. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup_squads#Brazil) I am not sure the source of 18th September as this is the first I have seen it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.203.222.30 (talk) 16:05, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry ignore this please I have seen the edits above. Art. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.203.222.30 (talk) 16:08, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Misplaced edit request

An editor has placed an edit request at template:Soccerbase that I think actually pertains to this article. Template talk:Soccerbase#Edit request from Thetahir1992, 21 May 2011 If someone who knows the subject matter would review his concern, that would be awesome. Thanks --Diannaa ^(Talk) 15:38, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Diapers During 99 America's Cup Tournament

I don't know for sure how accurate article is as Arabic is not my first language, but I thought someone who cares should take a look and add it if the content is deemed legitimate. KlappCK (talk) 14:25, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

I found a similar article [3]. KlappCK (talk) 14:25, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Team Names

Are constantly being reverted by IPs. I don't know how to request protection, so if someone could (or tell me how) it'd help! BulbaThor (talk) 16:08, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from , 7 November 2011

The birthday of Ronaldo Luiz Nazario de Lima isn't 18.9.76 but 22.9.76.

84.255.250.114 (talk) 21:04, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Not done: The current reference link says According to "Ronaldo : the journey of a genius" by James Mosley, Ronaldo born on 18 September but registered on 22 September --Jnorton7558 (talk) 23:27, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

England goal

Article has him down as scoring in le tournoi in 1997. It was Romario that scored that goal in a 1-0 win. Ronald scored during the UMBRO Cup at Wembley in 1995 - a 3-1 win for Brazil. 86.142.50.40 (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

Added 22 September birthday

Since virtually every online source has Ronaldo's birth date as 22 September 1976 (including the official FIFA website), it seems absurd to ignore all of it in preference of an offline source that nobody can scrutinize for authenticity. Azzurro2882 (talk) 04:19, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

• Every online source is wrong. His birthday is 18 September, as his official autobiography states, and gives reason for the confusion. SpartanSWAT10 (talk) 06:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 4 July 2012

Hnahari75 (talk) 17:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC) You need to say what you want edited. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 17:37, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

Dollars?

During his spell at PSV, Ronaldo attracted the attention of both Inter Milan and FC Barcelona. It was Barcelona that was willing to pay the then record fee of $17 million

Why is this in dollars? Barcelona did not pay PSV in dollars. 92.232.213.188 (talk) 14:18, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Legacy

There should be a section of Ronaldo's legacy just like all other great players. For example Zidane in an interview with CNN said without hesitation Ronaldo is the greatest player he has played with or against. "He does things with the ball that is sometimes irritating or even disconcerting" Zidane said. “Ronaldo used to win games by himself, whether easy or difficult. The real Ronaldo has always been a champion for me. Buffon said in an interview with GQ Magazine. “He will always be remembered among the greatest, but he could have been better than anyone, including Pele and Maradona.” Buffon said. Many future generation strikers including Messi,Ibramovic and Benzema have called Ronaldo their idol. Football coaches like Arrigo Sacchi and jose mourinho have argued Ronaldo is the greatest player they have ever seen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jebivid (talk • contribs) 15:21, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Daniella, not Daniela

is her name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.246.174.71 (talk) 13:08, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

International goals

There are numerous problems with this section, which should be corrected as the Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation states. I myself can't edit the page at the moment because I've just signed up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dongtaipo (talk • contribs) 15:31, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 July 2013

It's most obvious that the section International goals is based on an erroneous source. It should be corrected as stated in the Rec.Sport.Soccer Statistics Foundation. Dongtaipo (talk) 06:00, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. If there are large-scale issues with the article that you see, I suggest you continue editing Wikipedia - once you've made at least 10 constructive edits to Wikipedia, you'll be able to edit this article yourself and address the problem(s) directly. --ElHef (Meep?) 23:16, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 29 July 2013

Ronaldo was born on September 22nd. Not the 18th. 71.231.26.73 (talk) 18:26, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The existing source says born on the 18th and registered on the 22nd. If you have a different source that says otherwise, please provide it. RudolfRed (talk) 00:07, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Ronaldo didn't get a goal vs Norway in 1997

The goals for Brazil in that match were scored by Romario and Djalminha. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhAHvGB32Y — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.167.232.190 (talk) 16:41, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Ronaldo's International Goal

There is an error on Ronaldo's International Goals Table Ronaldo first international Goal was against Iceland, according to the following sources

http://www.sambafoot.com/es/seleccion/328_brasil_islandia.html http://www.rsssfbrasil.com/sel/brazil199495.htm

He didn't even play that match against Canada as it is listed on the table.

Date: 1994-05-03 Venue: Estádio da Ressacada, Florianópolis, Brazil Opponent: Iceland Score: 1-0 Result: 3-0 Competition: Friendly

Gambitox82 (talk) 15:00, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Done. Thanks. Note that your two sources disagree as to the date of the match. Thanks. --Stfg (talk) 18:01, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Typo in "Career statistics" section

The second-to-last heading in the "Club"" table is spelled "Orher" instead of "Other".

Done. Fixed typo -- thanks for pointing it out! SQGibbon (talk) 05:57, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Create a new section : Charitable activities

In 2000, Ronaldo was appointed Goodwill Ambassador for the link to undp wiki page to support the organizations’ poverty eradication efforts. "In football I learned that with motivation and determination I could achieve my dreams – even if they seemed impossible at times. If the whole world unites against poverty and hunger, we can beat it and become champions," he said. Since 2003, he has been participating as UNDP Goodwill Ambassador in the Match Against Poverty, with fellow UNDP Goodwill Ambassador and soccer superstar Zinédine Zidane. The annual soccer match raises funds to benefit selected UNDP’s projects worldwide. "The fight against poverty is not a game," said Ronaldo. "We use this match as a way to raise funds and to make people aware of the fact that the solution to this problem is in our hands. It is by working together that we will all win the Match against Poverty.” As UNDP Goodwill Ambassador, Ronaldo also supported in 2012 the Rio+20 Summit in an online discussion with UNDP’s Administrator Helen Clark. Fasana (talk) 21:58, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Brazilian poker players

I want to add Category: Brazilian poker players 6betbluff (talk) 09:01, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Not done: The category "Brazilian poker players" is for "poker players from Brazil who have placed highly in major tournaments such as the World Series of Poker".
If Ronaldo has been "placed highly in major tournaments such as the World Series of Poker", please cite reliable sources to back up your request.
If he has not competed at that level, the category is inappropriate. - Arjayay (talk) 13:50, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Name 1 world famous poker player? It seems pretty irelavant to create a page for unknown people. Dannyduffy1 (talk) 20:26, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2014

80.249.56.80 (talk) 09:50, 6 May 2014 (UTC) ronaldo friends with abdul was killed in a car crash off the m26

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 10:27, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 February 2015

Ronaldo is a good player for brazil. Pronaymukerjeeyo (talk) 03:48, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

This is not a request. 04:36, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

No references for club career stats?

I cannot spot any references for the club career stats. Is there a particular reason for them missing apart "nobody bothered"? If not, can somebody recommend a resource, which is reliable especially for Brazilian leagues? Robby.is.on (talk) 20:38, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

Anyone? Robby.is.on (talk) 19:16, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

1998 FIFA World Cup section

There's a line in this section which reads:

...the team sheet (with Edmundo as his replacement) was submitted to FIFA, whose delegate read through the line up and paused in amazement to ask Brazil coach Mario Zagallo, "Wait a minute, where's Ronaldo? Mr Zagallo, are you sure there's no mistake?"

It cites this page, but having read that article it's clear that the exchange isn't a direct quote but a fictionalisation, and therefore shouldn't be included here on Wikipedia. Language such as the "delegate surely did a double take" shows that it is mere speculation and that the conversation wasn't real. (And besides anything else, managers at that level don't generally hand in the team sheet themselves personally.) Can somebody rework this, please? 80.5.147.237 (talk) 18:50, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 26 November 2016

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved (non-admin closure) Fuortu (talk) 17:20, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

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• Ronaldo → Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer)
• Ronaldo (disambiguation) → Ronaldo

– As insulting as it may seem towards one legend of the game, another legend of the game is now universally known as "Ronaldo" and will dominate the name for years to come. It seems only right that the dab page should be "Ronaldo" so that a choice can be made. Unreal7 (talk) 15:19, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

• Support clearly no longer any absolute majority topic. Would also suspect that "Cristiano Ronaldo" dos Santos these days is more commonly known as Ronaldo (Portuguese footballer) with only the second of his two given names. In ictu oculi (talk) 18:08, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

No, just no. Unreal7 (talk) 21:51, 26 November 2016 (UTC)

Yes, just yes, see stats below. Davey2010 (talk · contribs) sorry did you not mean to support? You say below 98% are looking for the Portuguese footballer, so why oppose moving the Brazilian? In ictu oculi (talk) 13:10, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

I meant there's absolute zero chance of Cristiano being moved as well. Unreal7 (talk) 23:06, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

*Oppose - "Ronaldo" brings up 8,940,000 results and most if not all are for Cristiano, I'd say a good 98% of people in the would be looking for the Cristiano article so at this present time I see no reason to move, –Davey2010^Talk 03:10, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

• Support - Shit sorry I failed to look at the article and just assumed "Ronaldo" was a dab page, Obviously support per PRIMARYTOPIC etc etc (Thanks In ictu oculi). –Davey2010^Talk 13:38, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

• Comment. One might look to the Portuguese Wikipedia for the definitive answer to this question, they have him at Ronaldo Nazário (pt:Ronaldo Nazário). We have redirects from Ronaldo Názario and Ronaldo Nazario. Generally natural disambiguation by a more complete name should be preferred, I think. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:49, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support: Christiano Ronaldo has 575,422 views while Ronaldo only has 110,533 views. Christiano Ronaldo is commonly referred to as just 'Ronaldo' so safe to assume there is no clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for just the term 'Ronaldo'. Ebonelm (talk) 19:33, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
• Comment. Just to be clear, Cristiano Ronaldo is well known by his full name and not just his surname. The Brazilian is only ever referred to as just Ronaldo. There is a clear distinction. Yes when people say Ronaldo (especially people who have known the name post 2003) they will mostly think of the Portuguese player, but like with Lionel Messi (as opposed to just Messi), David Beckham (as opposed to just Beckham) they will also know his full name Cristiano Ronaldo which is frequently stated. On a side note, It's just fate that the original was the biggest name in the world at a time when there wasn't any Internet (fully established anyway) or social media, as there is no question he would have been as high a profile a figure (if not higher given his World Cup performances) as Cristiano. – RichardHarris22 (talk) 00:45, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support This is an unusual case. Cristiano Ronaldo is so famous, and so widely referred to as "Ronaldo", that there is not a truly primary topic for Ronaldo. Therefore the DAB page should reside there.--MrStoofer (talk) 10:05, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
• Support but keep Cristiano Ronaldo at current title. No WP:PTOPIC for "Ronaldo", but continue using WP:NATURALDIS for Cristiano. SSTflyer 10:38, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

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