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Compartments

Dom497, please self-revert and clean-up Special:Diff/822551547; changing 21 compartments to 14 compartments per train introduces inaccuracy. (2 trains × 3 carriages × 7 compartments × 8 passengers). —Sladen (talk) 14:34, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sladen: Where does it say 8 passengers per compartment?--Dom497 (talk) 14:37, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for bringing this up. Seems like there are inconsistencies is some of the refs.--Dom497 (talk) 14:38, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Sladen: Should all be fixed now.--Dom497 (talk) 14:44, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict). Dom497 appreciations for Special:Diff/822791827 restoring three carriages/21 compartments information. Original reply: Prior to the first edits by a Dom497 back in 2015 (eg. before Special:PermanentLink/669320997) it contained roughly the following, (with added archiveurl= and quote=):
Each train is an articulated cable car formed of five sections: a replica of steam-locomotive GWR 4900 Class 5972 Olton Hall (as 5972 Hogwarts Castle) and its tender plus a set of three passenger vehicles approximating the appearance of British Railways Mark 1 carriages. The pair of Hogwarts Express trains travel forwards from north-to-south, and backwards from south-to-north.[rake 1] Each corridor coach passenger vehicle has three doors, and seven compartments. Each compartment holds up to eight seated passengers and has its own projection system instead of windows.[rake 2][rake 3][rake 4]
Seemingly shorter, more precise, unambiguous and only needed saying once. However, the "How the Hogwarts Express Works" citation was removed in this edit Special:Diff/672940882 (by Dom497). Then, in a previous Good Article review Special:Diff/694080147, Wehwalt took considerable time to reply to the explicit request for review, with numerous comments including "you state twice in relatively short proximity that there are twenty-one (which I would make 21) compartments. I would leave the three carriages, which is a useful reminder.".
In summary, had the original wording remained or even just its accompanying citations, we would not be a situation two years down the line where the same editor is requesting citations after inserting inaccurate information. Feel free to restore some of these citations/material if they are now felt useful again. —Sladen (talk) 15:20, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Sim, Nick (12 October 2014). "The 5 Strangest Secrets of Universal's Hogwarts Express". Retrieved 30 June 2015.
  2. ^ Weisenberger, Nick (25 June 2015). "How the Hogwarts Express works". Coaster 101. Archived from the original on 19 July 2014. Retrieved 30 June 2015. passengers aboard the Hogwarts Express ride in individual cabin compartments that seat up to eight guests
  3. ^ Sims, Andrew (16 August 2013). "All aboard! The real Hogwarts Express pulls into Universal Orlando". Retrieved 30 June 2015.
  4. ^ MacDonald, Brady (9 May 2013). "What may come to Wizarding World of Harry Potter 2.0 at Universal Orlando". Los Angeles Times. Retrieved 30 June 2015.
@Sladen: Refs 1 to 3 are unreliable so thats why they were removed. Anyways, I added back one of the sentences that were removed.--Dom497 (talk) 15:50, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Dom497, added the first one (useful but "unreliable"…) in Special:Diff/824475487 to Hogwarts Express (Universal Orlando Resort)#Further reading. Perhaps this is also a solution for various of the other useful reader-focused information that got purged? —Sladen (talk) 16:06, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Project 722 Kings Cross plans

Special:Diff/826323324 removed the text "By December 2011 Universal Creative had created the plans for the interior and exterior of King's Cross station and its platform.[kgx 1][kgx 2][kgx 3]" covering the date of the design of the Kings Cross (Project 722 north station for the Connector Train) and the accompanying citations:

  1. ^ Henderson, Nicholas; Universal Creative (16 December 2011). Drawing 64E.00-1: Exterior Kings Cross & Blackfriars Bridge (Plans & Elevations - Scale 1/8" at A0) (Report). Project 722.
  2. ^ Henderson, Nicholas; Universal Creative (16 December 2011). Drawing 64E.01-1: Interior Kings Cross Ticket Hall & Departure Hall (Plans & Elevations - Scale 1/8" at A0) (Report). Project 722.
  3. ^ Henderson, Nicholas; Universal Creative (16 December 2011). Drawing 64E.04-1: Interior Kings Cross Loading Platform (Plans & Elevations - Scale 1/8" at A0) (Report). Project 722.

with the edit summary "Source is a personal blog. Also, the publisher of the blog appears to be a professional animator so it is possible he generated these images himself". Indeed, Nic Henderson was the lead designer for Kings Cross/Gringotts. —Sladen (talk) 14:12, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sladen: Do you have a source that says he was the lead designer? And if so, how can we verify that the blog is actually his and not a fake?--Dom497 (talk) 22:41, 18 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In Special:Diff/826466039, plans relocated to #Further reading with |via=. Henderson was not mentioned in the prose. —Sladen (talk) 08:57, 19 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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