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Yae4, good luck, and have fun. — Newslinger talk 11:55, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

/e/ (operating system)

Hi Yae4, thanks for contributing the critical reception section to the /e/ (operating system) article. Criticism is welcome in articles when it is reliably sourced, but we can't include self-published sources like InfoSec Handbook and ewwlo.xyz (if they're not being used in a self-descriptive way). If you find any reviews or criticism from reliable sources, please feel free to add them to the article. This can be tough for less popular topics like free and open-source software, but Wikipedia's verifiability policy is in place to help keep articles trustworthy.

Welcome to Wikipedia, and please feel free to ask me if you have any questions about editing! — Newslinger talk 11:59, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Forum posts are also not acceptable, as they are user-generated content. Please also take some time to review the neutral point of view policy. Selectively quoting a primary source (without reliable secondary sources) to only explain one side of a "controversy" is not neutral. — Newslinger talk 14:37, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion continues at Talk:/e/ (operating system) § Recent edits by User:Yae4. — Newslinger talk 19:36, 28 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Invitation to the free and open-source software task force

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COI discussion

Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Yae4 (talk) 11:17, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Liliputing as a Reliable Source (was October 2019)

Hello, I'm Walter Görlitz. I noticed that you recently removed content from Kodi (software) without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. The only actual comment at RSN was that it was "Generally unreliable" and would not count toward GNG, but that falls short of being unreliable. I hope you're not removing it everywhere because of this. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:22, 3 October 2019 (UTC) [reply]

Hello Walter. The change summary was as accurate and to the point as I felt necessary. Previously I did copy paste the notice board link, but it was ugly, and you found that anyway, clearly. Yes, I think you made a mistake, but I'm no wiki lawyer and don't wish to become one. If you'd like to discuss Liliputing source, let's take it to the noticeboard, as was suggested to me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Liliputing.com_blog_as_a_reliable_source?

-- Yae4 (talk) 14:39, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, you characterized the actual comments inaccurately. User:JzG also agreed, saying, "That site is basically a collection of advertisements." -- Yae4 (talk) 14:48, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

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AfC notification: Draft:MicroG has a new comment

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A barnstar for you!

	The Linux Barnstar
	Excellent job on the GrapheneOS article, Yae4! It can be frustrating to find reliable sources for topics on the edge of notability, but you persisted, researched sources from multiple languages, and now have a nicely-sourced article about an interesting operating system. Thanks for contributing this article to Wikipedia! — Newslinger talk 23:33, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Precious Plastic

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File:NearlyFreeSpeech logo.gif listed for discussion

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DYK for GrapheneOS

On 15 January 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article GrapheneOS, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that GrapheneOS, a free and open-source operating system for selected Google Pixel smartphones, was recommended by Edward Snowden? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/GrapheneOS. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, GrapheneOS), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's on the main page! Nice work! — Newslinger talk 00:26, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Newslinger, Thanks for all your help too! The charts are interesting; looking forward to see how it goes. -- Yae4 (talk) 02:05, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Newslinger, Yesterday the chart looked like no change; today it looks like a big spike - 3,800 isn't 5k, but it's not bad. -- Yae4 (talk) 13:14, 16 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Z33 Doug Weller talk 11:55, 15 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Yae4, and welcome to Wikipedia. Your additions to Judith Curry have been removed in whole or in part, as they appear to have added copyrighted content without evidence that the source material is in the public domain or has been released by its owner or legal agent under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. (To request such a release, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission.) While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues.

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa (talk) 14:29, 19 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK nomination of Precious Plastic

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DYK nomination of NearlyFreeSpeech

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Speedy deletion of Climate Forecast Applications Network

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The page Climate Forecast Applications Network has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seemed to be unambiguous advertising which only promoted a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to have been fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Please note that the draft is now at Draft:Climate Forecast Applications Network. I also suggest using the WP:AFC process that would allow experienced reviewers to comment on its progress, etc. Thanks, —Paleo Neonate – 02:30, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Harassment template on JzG's talk page

I'm sure they saw your ANI report notice (which I closed as inappropriate), so why template them with a warning about harassment? When have they harassed you, anyway? Please be brief. Because you attach no diffs to that warning, accusing someone of harassment without evidence can itself constitute an aspersion. El_C 06:10, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

El C, this is normal paranoia. The idea that I'm somehow stalking this editor is laughable and entirely unsupported by evidence, but when people advocate unorthodox views on Wikipedia and can't accept that they are not going to get their way, they often feel they are being persecuted. Guy (help!) 18:54, 30 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: Here you say, "which I closed as inappropriate". There you said it was filed in the wrong place: "Pretty much Only the Arbitration Committee can revoke the sysyop flag on the English Wikipedia. Please make a request there, not here."[1]. As I wrote on JzG aka Guy talk page, "harassment was not a perfect fit," but I didn't see another category that fit better. I put the harassment thing because There,Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests strongly suggests having a dialogue, etc., before going There. I believe dialogue is not possible in this case, but am doing my best to assume good faith, follow procedures, etc., although a battleground environment is what I am experiencing.

Did you actually read the diffs provided in the ANI you closed? I gave 2 specific examples at the end, with links to histories and diffs. At Michael Kelly and Civitas, on January 18 I made minor additions (category climate change skeptic and denial). A couple days later on January 21, JzG aka Guy went there and "gutted" sourced material with misleading edit summaries (as stated in the ANI). Those two seem the most obvious. Other interactions are similar histories, but other editors were also involved, so look less obvious, but facts are, from Burt Rutan to Judith Curry, whenever I've been involved in climate change related articles, JzG aka Guy has followed with edits and/or talk. So, yeah, it seems like stalking or harassment.

And I was feeling that before seeing this. There is a long list of ANI's involving JzG aka Guy.[2]. The first few I glanced at look similar, though many are old: Bullying and harassment[3], Personal attack.[4], Gone and "pushed over".[5], User page incident[6], Sanction suggested[7], Misuse of page protection. [8], Using admin tools when involved in dispute,[9] blocked [10], "Vandalized" talk page[11].....

-- Yae4 (talk) 20:53, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Making the request (which I read as a request to desysop) in the wrong venue was inappropriate, which is why I immediately closed it. Templating a regular with an harassment warning template is not what I'd consider striking a dialogue. On the contrary, such a warning, with no further details or diffs outside of an auotmated message with prewritten script, totally failed to explain what harassment was even being referred to. Which, in itself, can be seen as a form of harassment. Which is why I also removed it as inappropriate. What you ought to have said was: I felt harassed by you due to action you've taken pertaining to X, Y and Z — not place an automated template with prewritten script and nothing else. Therefore, you have not been acting in a manner which attempted to amicably resolve the dispute, instead you behaved aggressively and inappropriately. Otherwise, I am finding your complaint to be poorly-documented and not that coherent, sorry. If you have grievances, raise them on a user talk page. If you take issue with a deletion, take it to deletion review. But you need to make a genuinely good faith effort at collegial resolution. Finally, when an admin looks into a user whose editing they view as problematic (including in this case climate science Arbitration enforcement), that is not hounding — that is them doing their due diligence. El_C 00:18, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and pretty much any active admin has had a few requests of a negative nature on the admin noticeboards. That doesn't indicate anything about anything. El_C 00:24, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: OK. I made procedural mistakes. And I realize admins have a lot of stuff to deal with. So, thanks for your time. A couple more comments. I did take the deletion to DRV. I did attempt to discuss that on JzG aka Guy talk page first: User_talk:JzG#Your_Speedy_deletion_of_Climate_Forecast_Applications_Network. The reply, "please don't write advertorial on Wikipedia" is simply not helpful. At all. PS. I've corrected the links to the Kelly and Civitas histories in the comment above. One last question I still would like answered: Is this, User:JzG/Politics, considered normal and appropriate at Wikipedia? -- Yae4 (talk) 02:00, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These are more than just procedural mistakes — they are mistakes that are rooted in an overly-aggressive approach to dispute resolution. As for the /politics bit, I've always considered it fine for one to be upfront about their biases. But I can't really comment beyond that because I haven't read it in full due to its sheer length. But that's my impression, at least. El_C 02:11, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@El C: I can't honestly agree with you about who is being too aggressive, but I see your feedback, as focused on one particular interaction, and will take it into account. I've not done more than skim the very lengthy /politics either, but it appears to be "extensive discussion not related...", "extensive personal opinions," and "Extensive writings and material on topics having virtually no chance whatsoever of being directly useful to the project", which would seem to violate WP:UPNOT,WP:UP#GOALS and/or WP:POLEMIC. But what do I know. -- Yae4 (talk) 02:58, 2 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for NearlyFreeSpeech

On 1 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article NearlyFreeSpeech, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that NearlyFreeSpeech was considered a "safe haven" for alt-right Twitter alternative Gab? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/NearlyFreeSpeech. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, NearlyFreeSpeech), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Wug·a·po·des 06:57, 31 January 2020 (UTC) 00:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Precious Plastic

On 1 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Precious Plastic, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Dave Hakkens founded Precious Plastic, an open hardware plastic recycling project, to enable individuals to set up "their own miniature recycling company"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Precious Plastic. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Precious Plastic), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Wug·a·po·des 06:58, 31 January 2020 (UTC) 12:02, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Dave Hakkens

On 1 February 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Dave Hakkens, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Dave Hakkens founded Precious Plastic, an open hardware plastic recycling project, to enable individuals to set up "their own miniature recycling company"? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Dave Hakkens), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Wug·a·po·des 06:58, 31 January 2020 (UTC) 12:03, 1 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]