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Hadith regarding the use of Nikah Mut'ah after Muhammad was nominated for deletion. The discussion was closed on 17 June 2013 with a consensus to merge. Its contents were merged into Nikah mut'ah. The original page is now a redirect to this page. For the contribution history and old versions of the redirected article, please see its history; for its talk page, see here.

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This topic is totally biased anti shia

To claim repeatedly that a sanctioned practice of millions of shia is akin to prostitution is absolutely horrendous and offensive in Wikipedia 86.254.10.114 (talk) 20:30, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I look forward to seeing your improvements. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 20:51, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, how exactly an intercouse between two consenting adults is prostitution? Cyborgyan (talk) 13:45, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Change 'pleasure marriage' to 'pleasure intercourse'. In Arabic 'Nikah' doesn't mean marriage, it means intercourse. Zawaj is marriage, nikah is not. 2A02:A44B:48AB:1:5806:56A5:A5BC:3B8C (talk) 10:10, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not done. 'Nikah' is plainly translated as marriage under usual circumstances, and no sources have been provided to suggest otherwise. Iskandar323 (talk) 10:43, 13 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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PathToGuidance (talk) 11:57, 12 July 2024 (UTC)According to early Twelver tafsir(exegesis) text on verse 4:24 from the Quran,it does not states anywhere about Nikah'Mutah,this is according to twelver book Tafsir'Qummi,volume.1,page.486-487.[reply]

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jamedeus (talk) 04:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Unbelievably biased lede section

First of all, "while this type of marriage is despised as a kind of prostitution among the public and the new generation, the clergy gather together to encourage and even bless it by using concepts related to marriage" has nothing to do with the actual topic in question. There are no offered statistics or any other methodic measurements of this supposed "despise". And the original source is not saying what the paragraph is saying. Second of all, Khomeini's fatwa is irrelevant. In imami fiqh, any mujtahid can give his opinion on a matter of law. There are hundreds of scholars who disagree with Khomeini on this, so why is he quoted and they are not? You cannot emulate a dead mujtahid, so his view on the matter is completely irrelevant to modern practice. These two sections should be removed from the lede. The Khomeini fatwa can be included elsewhere in the article, but definitely not stated like this in the beginning. It's laughably biased, and the extended protection locks it in without any legitimate consensus. شاه عباس (talk) 18:35, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All of the problematic sections come from a user named NGC 628 who has been adding biased and borderline Islamophobic contributions endlessly and exclusively since October 2023. The admins are urged to revert those edits immediately, or allow the page to be edited by other members. Locking in a biased user's contribution with no opportunity for alteration is outright bizarre. شاه عباس (talk) 14:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jamedeus @Iskandar323 شاه عباس (talk) 15:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The section that claims that this sort of marriage is "despised" by modern Iranians, which is an entire paragraph citing only one article, refers to a section within that article which reads "contemptuously dismissed as legalized prostitution ``by the more secular and modernized Iranian middle classes``". It should already be obvious that this sentence within this section in reality has no source. It certainly does not deserve to be in the article, let alone in the lede section.

Regarding Khomeini's fatwa, it has nothing to do with Nikah Mut'a, it has to do with his views on the age of consent and Nikah in general. Unless you want to turn every article regarding Islam into a polemicist debate about age of consent laws, I see no reason whatsoever that this should be included in this page in particular, and not in the lede of every single page about Islamic law and marriage. It is absolutely irrelevant to the topic of temporary verbal wedlock contracts. @Roger 8 Roger @Iskand22 @Jamedeus شاه عباس (talk) 18:16, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Please refer to my previous comments on this talk page.

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Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. None of your comments are formatted appropriately for this request Cannolis (talk) 18:41, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]