Talk:Italy national football team/Archive 2
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CONMEBOL–UEFA Cup of Champions
Hello all, I am trying to reach a consensus as to whether the following tables ought to be included on this page:
| CONMEBOL–UEFA Cup of Champions record | |||||||||
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| Year | Round | Position | Pld | W | D | L | GF | GA | |
 1985
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Did not qualify | ||||||||
 1993
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 2022
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Runners-up | 2nd | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | |
| Total | Runners-up | 1/3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 3 | |
| Italy's CONMEBOL–UEFA Cup of Champions record | |||||
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| First match | |||||
| Biggest win | N/A
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| Biggest defeat | |||||
| Best result | 2nd place in 2022
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| Worst result | 2nd place in 2022
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I feel that these tables would benefit the articles. Such tables already exist on the Argentina national team page, and have since been added to the other teams that have played in the cup. I feel that this would be a useful table to have on the page, particularly seeing as it has been announced that the cup| competition will take place until at least 2028. Please let me know what you think. Vesuvio14 (talk) 20:11, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- The issue is that, realistically, Italy won't compete every edition (even assuming once every 4 editions would be optimistic). I don't see the value in adding a table for a competition in which only two out of 65 members may compete. Nehme1499 20:41, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I get that, and it is certainly likely that they may not be in another addition for some time. However, as User:Island92 stated in their most recent edit description, this is an international competition which might suggest it should be featured here as it is also featured in the infobox. Vesuvio14 (talk) 21:50, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think adding a table with "other tournaments" may be a good compromise, as is done here for example. Nehme1499 21:52, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- That is what I was about to suggest too! :) A similar table exists on France’s page which is where the cup was before I moved it. Perhaps this would be the best option as per your points above. Would you know of anything else which might go in such a table? Vesuvio14 (talk) 21:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- 1976 U.S.A. Bicentennial Cup Tournament, 1980 World Champions' Gold Cup, 1985 Ciudad de México Cup Tournament, 1991 Scania 100 Tournament, 1992 U.S. Cup, 1995 Swiss Football Federation Centenary Tournament (RSSSF link), 1997 Tournoi de France. These should be all the "unofficial" tournaments Italy took place in (at least, according to the FIGC's official fixture list). Nehme1499 22:21, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- That is what I was about to suggest too! :) A similar table exists on France’s page which is where the cup was before I moved it. Perhaps this would be the best option as per your points above. Would you know of anything else which might go in such a table? Vesuvio14 (talk) 21:56, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I think adding a table with "other tournaments" may be a good compromise, as is done here for example. Nehme1499 21:52, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- I get that, and it is certainly likely that they may not be in another addition for some time. However, as User:Island92 stated in their most recent edit description, this is an international competition which might suggest it should be featured here as it is also featured in the infobox. Vesuvio14 (talk) 21:50, 13 June 2022 (UTC)
- Brilliant, thanks for letting me know. I’ll see if I can add this at some point today. Vesuvio14 (talk) 06:16, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
New table added to page with minor tournaments and their stats. Perhaps if Italy are in another edition of the cup in the future then we might consider adding a full table. Vesuvio14 (talk) 08:46, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
Defunct tournaments
Hi, @Oluclen:, just wanted to ask you about your recent edits regarding defunct tournaments. I believe the tournaments section is simply for any tournaments, regardless of whether or not they are still played. I do not think that an entire section need be devoted to defunct tournaments, but perhaps a simple note could be placed by the tables for each example of on. You say that I have deviated for the standard, but I do not find any other examples of such a section on other international teams' articles. They simply list defunct tournaments (such as the Confederations Cup) with the rest of their tournaments. For example, see France, Brazil and New Zealand. Vesuvio14 (talk) 17:50, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with Vesuvio. Nehme1499 18:10, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
Unless anybody else objects, I will revert this edit at some point tomorrow. Vesuvio14 (talk) 14:49, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
Medal record (update)
FIFA Confederations Cup third place (bronze) in 2013 is missing and another bronze is missing as well, gained at Olympic Games in 2004. 137.222.66.176 (talk) 13:01, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- The 2004 Olympic games were reserved for under-21 national teams, not senior teams. Nehme1499 13:08, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- For Germany in another year, there is a note. Perhaps, it can be added as Under 21 or Olympic team? I think there were at least some over-aged players were permitted 137.222.66.176 (talk) 13:13, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- The medal is already included at Italy national under-21 football team. Nehme1499 13:13, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- ah ok, although it is a bit confusing in my humble opinion. Germany in 2016 won silver with their Under 23s, that's why I was confused. Anyway, also the silver gained losing the final this summer with Argentina should be added to the Medal record? 137.222.66.176 (talk) 13:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- The medal is already included at Italy national under-21 football team. Nehme1499 13:13, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
- For Germany in another year, there is a note. Perhaps, it can be added as Under 21 or Olympic team? I think there were at least some over-aged players were permitted 137.222.66.176 (talk) 13:13, 30 September 2022 (UTC)