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Editing out P.R. bloviation

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The article was pure P.R. -- lots of words and phrases that added bulk but no meaning to the whole. I fear that this article will become part of an edit war with the original writer (or company flacks). If that's you (and you're reading this :) ), please read this section before editing. (For the record, I was a journalist for four years and a P.R. executive for another four. I sympathise. But this is Wikipedia.) --tgeller 18:38, 17 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Article rewrite

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I just completley rewrote this article, removing all the advertising and just providing the basic facts. I also removed the {{advertisement}} template. -Aude (talk | contribs) 03:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Not in Troy

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As has been discused elsewhere on wikipedia, MapInfo is not in Troy. The company's headquarters is several miles south of the city, in North Greenbush. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.195.201.47 (talk) 02:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Where did it go?

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Maybe it should say what product it became: "inspiration for the Microsoft MapPoint program, which became a separate product from Microsoft, and since that Microsoft Map was dropped." -- SEWilco (talk) 21:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

No consensus. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:32, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MapInfoPitney Bowes Business Insight — because the company name has changed. —Quantling (talk | contribs) 19:47, 25 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Discussion

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Any additional comments:

See Wikipedia:official names for an informal introduction to the policy at WP:AT. I have not relisted this move, but it would be in order to relist if there is evidence that a move is in order. It seems unlikely to me, having looked at the current article. Andrewa (talk) 13:09, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that the name be kept and the article be edited to refer to the company in the past tense. It no longer exists as an independent entity and the only way revenues, profits, or numbers of employees can be reported is to use those reported in the last year that it existed as such, before the acquisition. -AndrewDressel (talk) 01:25, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds reasonable to me. I confess I'm puzzled as to exactly what the proposed move was expected to achieve. It's doubtful that a division of Pitney Bowes qualifies for an article of its own; The previous organisation still might. Andrewa (talk) 03:59, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Notability and verifiability

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Cleanup or worse still required.

Infobox says Revenue $165.5 million USD (2005), Employees 900 (2005) with a non-MOS-compliant link direct to http://www.pbinsight.com/welcome/mapinfo/ and no retrieval date and that page doesn't currently support these figures.

So verifiability currently not established, notability unknown, previous advert and COI issues, and lead now reads a leading Location Intelligence/ GIS company with no reference for the leading which strikes me as a citation needed at least. Multiple issues despite the work above.

I'm not going to AFD it for now, I'll AGF and the AFD case is not all that strong but just possible IMO as it stands. Andrewa (talk) 20:51, 4 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I obviously have a conflict of interest, but I hope that doesn't preclude me from doing some of the legwork necessary to hunt down and insert some missing references. They're from the New York Times, so I hope you find them verifiable and that they establish notability. -AndrewDressel (talk) 01:14, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
NYT is an excellent source IMO, and there's absolutely no objection to your providing those refs. There's a systematic problem with COI in that an interest in any area generally leads to both expertise and opinions. We want the expertise! But so long as you're aware of the problem, normally (not always) there isn't one. Andrewa (talk) 04:04, 5 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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