Talk:Oleksandr Zelenskyy

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Requested move 4 March 2022

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The result of the move request was: moved. Number 5 7 14:26, 2 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oleksandr Zelensky → Oleksandr Zelenskyy – per the standardization. --► Sincerely: Sola virum 19:20, 4 March 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 03:39, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nomination. This English transliteration of the family surname is supported by consensus at Talk:Volodymyr Zelenskyy#Requested move 7 January 2022 and Talk:Volodymyr Zelenskyy#Requested move 25 February 2022. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:30, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The transliteration used at Volodymyr Zelenskyy is irrelevant here; we use the name that independent, English-language sources use for this individual. (See Sergei Tikhanovsky/Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya for an example of "inconsistent" surnames.) The proposal names no supporting sources, and a quick Google does not seem to indicate that "Oleksandr Zelenskyy" is more common than "Oleksandr Zelensky". 162 etc. (talk) 21:21, 4 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The given example isn't that relevant as Belarusian surnames are gender-specific. --► Sincerely: Sola virum 00:28, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Right. It is a different surname (different inflections the same root), not a different spelling of the same. Zelenskyy’s wife is Olena Zelenska. —Michael Z. 15:23, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pointing out that a "consistent" approach would instead use "Tikhanovsky/Tikhanovskaya", which isn't the case currently. Each individual is named according to reliable source usage. 162 etc. (talk) 17:33, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, got it, and you are right. One difference is that both of the Tsikhanouskis are public personalities that have been in international news, while Zelenskyy’s son doesn’t have much of an English-language profile of his own. —Michael Z. 17:56, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but I think that this would benefit from some more investigation. Searching Google Scholar, it looks like the president’s son’s own professional work is published under the spelling Aleksandr Zelensky, A Zelensky, or sometimes AS Zelensky. But I believe in the English-language world he is much more widely recognized as the president’s son. Is there a single WP:COMMONNAME spelling that’s used? If there’s more than one, the WP:CRITERIA would encourage us to be WP:CONSISTENT with the “main article” about his father. —Michael Z. 18:02, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move to Aleksandr Zelensky per WP:COMMONNAME as this is his most common name in English sources. Rreagan007 (talk) 19:22, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is there evidence? —Michael Z. 20:51, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Rreagan007: When a claim of this nature is made, it would be good to see some evidence. My own searches of media coverage indicate that what you are saying is not correct. AusLondonder (talk) 09:51, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to comment that Oleksandr Zelensky is the president's father, not son. --► Sincerely: Sola virum 21:38, 5 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support For consistency with his son's article. AusLondonder (talk) 09:48, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Mathematician

The Atlantic state she was a ‘professor of mathematics’ but I can’t find any other source on this. The other sources and rest of the article clarify he is an electrical engineer. I don’t see how an electrical engineer can just become a professor of mathematics in the Soviet university system, so I suspect the Atlantic writer, without a STEM background, assumed ‘mathematics’ covers anything that uses it. Do we have a further source? Otherwise I’ll slightly amend this for accuracy. Harsimaja (talk) 18:21, 17 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Quibble….quite reasonable though Quibble on matter of transliteration I have to quibble with the wiki hive-mind on the matter of the appropriate transliteration into English of the surnames. Zelenskyy himself I guess we can reasonably transliterate his first name and surname in the Ukrainian style, given his being the president of Ukraine and I suppose Ukrainian being the (hoped for) dominant language. But his parents? They were Russian speakers. So that’s ’Zelensky’. I posted this before but it got memory-holed. But I think it is a very reasonable observation. — 90.241.80.42 (talk) 20:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.241.80.42 (talk)