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Falklands War?

The article includes the following sentence:

"Romero and Cabo place the Nazism and imperialism related symbols in the context of Margaret Thatcher's government and British foreign policy especially concerning the Falklands issue."

The British campaign to retake the Falklands commenced with Operation Black Buck on 1 May 1982 and the war ended on 14 June 1982. The first public screening of the movie was on 23 May 1982 at Cannes. Roger Waters initially conceived the concept of The Wall in 1977 and The Wall album was written and recorded 1978-79. So the Falklands War is not relevant to the movie - although it did influence Roger Waters' writing of the 1983 Pink Floyd album The Final Cut .

Also, Margaret Thatcher became Prime Minister of the UK in May 1979 - too late to have influenced the writing of the album. I realise the sentence is sourced but this does not make it true. I suggest this sentence be removed from the article.

FWIW, I believe I know the origins of the neo-Nazi elements of the movie but I cannot cite a source - so adding this to the article would fail WP:OR. Stanley Oliver (talk) 23:00, 25 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Granted I'm replying over two years later, but the article still contains that exact sentence referencing "the Falklands Issue." It's important to understand that a) the Falklands War was the end result of provocations and escalations (aka "the Falklands Issue") over several years, and b) the sentence is describing how symbols were contextualized in the film rather than describing their initial use in the preceding album. 2601:602:8800:7DF0:817:DD17:3652:878F (talk) 2601:602:8800:7DF0:817:DD17:3652:878F (talk) 17:06, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Currently? When?

Please note WP:RELTIME. Vague time words such as "currently" are better avoided, especially when writing for an encyclopedia. Be specific and say {{as of}} when or leave it out entirely.

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Specifically replace X "The film received generally positive reviews. Review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes currently gives"
with Y "The film received generally positive reviews. Review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes gives"
and replace X2 "On Metacritic, the film currently holds"
with Y2 "On Metacritic, the film holds"

So to reiterate that is 2 requests to delete the word "currently" in both cases (but provided in the strict format requested by the template to avoid ambiguity). I'd also put both aggregators in a single paragraph but I leave that at the discretion of the editor. -- 109.79.80.137 (talk) 01:46, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done Helen(💬📖) 19:05, 30 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Soundtrack release

The article currently states "A soundtrack album from Columbia Records was listed in the film's end credits, but only a single containing "When the Tigers Broke Free" and the rerecorded "Bring the Boys Back Home" were released."

I formerly owned a copy of the soundtrack album, which I bought used in perhaps 1983 or so. I sold it a few years ago so I can't examine it for any publishing information. Unlike the album cover depicted on Genius.com it was basically the same cover as the original album. But it definitely included "When the Tigers Broke Free" although I can't remember the placement in the track listing.

It would be very disappointing to find out that this actually was some rare unreleased pressing that I sold for the price it would get if it was a common album. I'm not sure how to go about researching it though. 2601:602:8800:7DF0:817:DD17:3652:878F (talk) 2601:602:8800:7DF0:817:DD17:3652:878F (talk) 16:48, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]