Template:Did you know nominations/George Tchobanoglous
- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 02:04, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
George Tchobanoglous
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- ... that George Tchobanoglous' studies on ultraviolet radiation caused the acceptance of UV disinfection in water reuse applications?
Created/expanded by Beria (talk). Self nom at 23:16, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
Date, length, and sources check out. But the DYK hook and the corresponding text in the article are too closely paraphrased from the source they come from.
- Hook: "studies on ultraviolet radiation [caused] the acceptance of UV disinfection in water reuse applications"
- Article: "studies on ultraviolet radiation [caused] the acceptance of UV disinfection in water reuse applications"
- Source: "studies on ultraviolet radiation [have brought about] the [widespread] acceptance of UV disinfection in water reuse applications"
- This is not acceptable, and the whole article needs to be checked more carefully for similar problems. —David Eppstein (talk) 22:14, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- The whole article has a OTRS permission for a text who is linked in the Talk page. I can correct the line you cited (I have no OTRS for it) but the whole article is from a text with OTRS - The same, btw, who gave the permission to the picture. Béria Lima msg 22:27, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- The repetition of source content with OTRS permission is not copyvio or plagiarism, but articles that consist only of that kind of content are not suitable for DYK. I have added some original prose to the article, which I found to be a pretty superficial gloss of his CV. I extensively rewrote the "Research" section. Outside of that section, I added some content and made some changes, but the biographical details and lists of works and awards are still likely to look a lot like the sources. I think the current version has sufficient original content to qualify here, but someone else needs to assess that. --Orlady (talk) 06:54, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- After researching this man, I would like to reword the hook fact, as follows:
- ALT1 ... that efforts by George Tchobanoglous have contributed to UV disinfection of wastewater being accepted as a technology for water reuse?
- The alternate wording is recommended because the sources do not state that he accomplished this single-handedly and because it appears that the accomplishment was not due solely to his research, but had at least as much to do with the guidelines he drafted. --Orlady (talk) 15:59, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
The new version of the article is significantly improved over the nominated version and the new hook also avoids the same copying problem. My only remaining question is whether such a late improvement should be allowed by the DYK rules — I'll leave that to be decided by whoever wants to promote this (or not). —David Eppstein (talk) 20:07, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
- Please note that I worked on improving this article only because I am a DYK participant who took pity on a nomination that had been ignored/overlooked for a long time, and I wanted to help this nom make it to DYK. (I am not the nominator or creator, nor a member of the subject's family, nor a graduate of UC-Davis.) I'd hate to see my work go to waste because I didn't do it sooner. --Orlady (talk) 20:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
