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Welcome!

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Hello, CHScribbler, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions, especially what you did for Patriotic Alliance (South Africa). I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:

Please remember to sign your messages on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Hitro talk 21:24, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

CHScribbler, you are invited to the Teahouse

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Hi CHScribbler! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia.
Be our guest at the Teahouse! The Teahouse is a friendly space where new editors can ask questions about contributing to Wikipedia and get help from peers and experienced editors. I hope to see you there! Jtmorgan (I'm a Teahouse host)

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Howdy and welcome!

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Howdy and welcome! It is great to have new users here helping out! I wanted the check on what it was you wanted done with Patriotic Alliance. It seems like, given the number of organizations with similar names, that it would work quite well as a disambiguation page (it would be a list of "Patriotic alliance might refer to ..."). If a topic has many uses but one is clearly the central one (like say "Mars" is both a planet and a candy bar, but the planet is going to be what most people mean when they search), we put the article at the title and the disambiguation at Mars (disambiguation). To sum up, we can make

If you can clarify which of these you prefer and why, I think it should be easy to make happen. Thanks again for your work! --TeaDrinker (talk) 20:07, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

    • Hi TeaDrinker, thanks for getting back to me! I'm learning a lot about how Wikipedia works and it's really impressive. You guys are great to do what you do. As for my request, I think the best way of going about it is to choose option 2 of what you're suggesting. Patriotic Alliance should be the main entry about the South African political party, which is currently active and will be the entry that most people will be searching for in the next few months as South Africa is going to have elections in the next six months. All the other entries, particularly the one relating to the defunct Greek party, would then be subsidiary. Hope that works for you? --CHScribbler (talk) 20:52, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to know if I responded properly above and that TeaDrinker can see my response. Or should I have responded on HIS talk page instead? Thanks. CHScribbler (talk) 11:05, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CHScribbler. Yes TeaDrinker will be able to see your response, because you linked their username they will get a notification that you did so. When replying to someone directly and not on their talk page, it can be worth leaving a talkback template on their talk page to let them know you've replied. Samwalton9 (talk) 12:49, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for the delay in replying; I was unexpectedly off Wiki for a few days. I think it is probably best to wait to see how the discussion turns out. It looks like people will weigh in for another few days and then whatever the consensus is will be implemented. --TeaDrinker (talk) 17:12, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

File permission problem with File:Patriotic Alliance logo.gif

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Thanks for uploading File:Patriotic Alliance logo.gif. I noticed that while you provided a valid copyright licensing tag, there is no proof that the creator of the file has agreed to release it under the given license.

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If you have uploaded other files, consider checking that you have provided evidence that their copyright owners have agreed to license their works under the tags you supplied, too. You can find a list of files you have created in your upload log. Files lacking evidence of permission may be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. You may wish to read the Wikipedia's image use policy. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:25, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly unfree files

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Some files that you uploaded or altered have been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you object to the listing for any reason. Thank you. --Stefan2 (talk) 23:15, 26 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi. The secretary-general of the party, Kenny Kunene, wrote to Wikipedia last year giving permission for the logo to be used. This matter was already raised in December and I thought it was dealt with in Mr Kunene's email. Not sure why it's being flagged again? CHScribbler (talk) 09:33, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting news sources

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@CHScribbler I have seen you removed most parts on Gayton here. If sources exist, why would you revert? Wikipedia pages are built with sources that criticize and embrace the subject. Wikipedia facts are not taken from a Wikipedia user's own point of view. It is taken from sources. I also see WP:COI as you are the one who uploaded the file of PA here, whose leader is Gayton. And removing huge chunks of sourced content is not constructive. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 15:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Tumbuka Arch, the things that were removed were seriously inaccurate. For example, how could Gayton have gone to prison for robbing banks when he was 12 years old? That is seriously absurd. It's a known fact that he only served eight years of his sentence and was released from prison at the age of 29, which is 21 years ago.
It's not constructive to leave agenda-driven text that only has the purpose of smearing his name. 41.121.24.240 (talk) 07:49, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@CHScribbler Before you correct a Wikipedia page, first correct the news sources because all that come from news. For your own information, I did not add the jail case, but just noticed you remove huge chunks without providing the sources that contradict what you removed. This source here says Gayton was 16 years old when he robbed a bank and was imprisoned, yet you removed that here. If you keep on changing Wikipedia pages even using IP addresses for that purpose, I will file a CheckUser report. This will extract all accounts associated with the given IP addresses and get blocked. Wikipedia is not a place to defend any subject. Tumbuka Arch (talk) 10:14, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, I don't want to argue with you, but factually this man did not go to prison at age 16 and any source that claims otherwise is wrong. If you look at the quoted source, Gayton McKenzie says he started robbing and doing crime at age 16. He wasn't convicted and imprisoned until age 21 though. It took them five years to catch him. So your source is not even saying it.
I also did look at the news sources, but none of them were actually indicative of the information being claimed. Wikipedia needs to be a place with reliable information, not false information that unfairly represents living people. 41.121.24.240 (talk) 11:43, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]