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19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Shall I discuss this at WP:MCQ or c:COM:VPCOPY? Where else? --George Ho (talk) 02:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

Either one of those looks good. If it were to be free, it would be ripe for {{copy to commons}}, so asking on commons whether they would accept it (rather than having them delete it out from under us (en.wp) even if we think it's free) might be better. DMacks (talk) 02:46, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

June 2016

Thanks for your suggestion. IMHO wikipedia is just collection of proofs based on some citation or a link, but if that link is withdrawn then the basis can become flawed. I could not find live links which replaced the content, so I removed it. I will definitely try to read more on wikipedia edit policies. I am discussing regarding the page history of chemistry.

Abhilekh Agarwal (talk) 16:00, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

Great! Let me know if you have any questions (obviously you already know how to find some places to discuss specialized content). DMacks (talk) 03:02, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

15:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

19:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Undeletion of File:InvisibleMouse1.jpg and File:InvisibleMouse3.jpg

I'm unable to upload these 2 images to Tom and Jerry page The Invisible Mouse. Can you please help? Thanks. Marole3 (talk) 04:00, 29 June 2016 (UTC)

Actually the images are restored.Marole3 (talk) 07:00, 30 June 2016 (UTC)Marole3
Glad someone else took care of it. At least one of those two files seems to fail our WP:NFCC requirements, and I have tagged it accordingly. Other one is suspect, but I'll think about it a bit before deciding what if anything needs to be done about it. DMacks (talk) 20:41, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

FYI

[21] --NeilN talk to me 19:07, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, NeilN! DMacks (talk) 21:26, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
At least he's changing up his game. He got me too. If he'd put half the energy into actually improving Perry Hall, it would be GA by now. John from Idegon (talk) 05:31, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
I should ask for a raise, given that I've been upgraded to v2.1 DMacks (talk) 05:34, 7 July 2016 (UTC)

It's hardly the wheel or Mickey Mouse ears, but asking a backpacker familiar with the South Pacific will reveal that Lava Cola is the only way to drink kava (or its active ingredient) that doesn't taste of mud.

Also socks & WP:DENY. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:03, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

I was first drawn to the cat-page being a magnet for Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Filipz123 and that article being the only entry in it. Creating/over-populating cats is exactly the pattern of both Filipz123 and Europefan, so I took a more critical look at the article (killing off an unused cat and watchlisting it for recreation is a great way to catch socks of Filipz123). The item itself seemed more like just a product/formulation/brand of existing "inventions", but I won't oppose if you want to re-add that cat. DMacks (talk) 20:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
It has been in that, admittedly small, cat for five years. I think the socking issue is more about trying to do "the opposite of their usual edits" and removing an inventions cat (rather than the real opposite, of doing something useful).
It could be deleted under SMALLCAT, but the geographic bias of WP is so bad already that I'm not going to be the one to suggest skewing it further. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:36, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
Makes sense. DMacks (talk) 20:38, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

15:14, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

PAHs

This morning I did a lot of editing and cutting in the polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon article and then noticed that you also had also done a lot of work on this longish article. If you see anything that looks untoward in my work, then let me know and I will try to address the problems. I tried to combine some short sections. Also I became convinced that PAH's begin with tricyclics. Also if anything occurs to you that the article needs, let me know. Probably most readers are interested in health effects, e.g. from cook stoves and autos. --Smokefoot (talk) 11:42, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

I don't understand whenever I try to add a link to the reference category, every time got the message that I am doing spamming. How it's possible, the link is talking about the review of the movie. Can you please help me how could correct these mistakes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madhumandal121 (talkcontribs) 08:15, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

As the note on your talkpage says, wikipedia is a an encyclopedia of article content (mostly text written by editors), not just a place to post links to external sources. DMacks (talk) 08:18, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Have you checked the link, it was the same as others. The link was talking about the review of the movie not promoting itself. Your Wikipedia guidelines are so complicated and can you make it simple if you can?

I checked the link. It was the same as the others. Therefore it added nothing new to our encyclopedia. You seem focused on getting references to that website included, a website that seems like a fairly unknown one compared to others. Without strong evidence that it is "reliable" and adds something new what we already have, that's what makes your edit feel like WP:REFSPAM. DMacks (talk) 13:32, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

12:01, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

19:54, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Impractical Jokers

Sounds like you hate the Impractical Jokers... why you keep deleting them from the Monsignor Farrell High School wiki page?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:14C:8101:4B84:D004:654:DB2A:A2B3 (talk) 21:44, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

WP:BLP policy and WP:NLIST content-guideline. DMacks (talk) 22:10, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

on the page of dihedral angle, I linked hydrogen peroxide because was trying to link this-one.

O−O bond length = 147.4 pm O−H bond length = 95.0 pm
Structure and dimensions of H2O2 in the gas phase
O−O bond length = 145.8 pm O−H bond length = 98.8 pm
Structure and dimensions of H2O2 in the solid (crystalline) phase

RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 14:42, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

But it's pretty far off topic. Why is this chemical important in this context? Wikipedia article's shouldn't try to be all-encompassing essays on whole topics. Especially for a scientific topic that has a hierarchy, there is a Wikipedia:Summary style of a main topic, and then separate pages with details of each subtopic. So it's not appropriate to have a ton of images focusing on one subtopic taking over the parent/main-topic article. And it's not necessary to have WP:SEEALSO for all the subtopics, because they would already be discussed and linked from their own summary sections. DMacks (talk) 22:13, 28 July 2016 (UTC)

21:48, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Mac McGarry image

Hi DMacks. Thanks for catching that mistake. I meant to go back and fix it myself, but as I posted on Commons I got busy. I was also going to re-add the file to both articles, but you beat me to it. Now, about Mac McGarry#YouTube features, I'm pretty positive those are all copyright violations so they should go per WP:COPYLINK and WP:ELNEVER. None of those individual YouTube channels seem official and it's highly unlikely that the YouTube uploaders are the copyright holders of any of that video footage. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:33, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

I agree that they look like copyvio (the content policy and guideline you mention). And they also seem like it doesn't contribute any encyclopediac value (a simple editorial judgement similar to WP:LINKFARM). I could support a WP:FAIRUSE en.wp upload of a screenshot of him hosting some program or similar if actually seeing it helped reader understanding. But for now, all we have is prose like "he hosted X, Y, Z", which is completely explained by that sort of phrase itself. DMacks (talk) 07:45, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Ping User:Mbclev, who added a bunch of them, for thoughts. DMacks (talk) 07:47, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi again DMacks. Just wanted to let you know that another editor has nominated the McGarry file for deletion at c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mac McGarry - It's Academic.jpg. I mentioned you in the comment I added, so I just letting you here as a courtesy just in case. Finally, regarding the YouTube links, Mbcley appears to go quite a bit of time between edits, so not sure if and when they will respond to you query. So, I am removing the YouTube section per COPYLINK; it can always be re-added in a more appropriate manner at a latter date if a consensus can be reached to do so. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:25, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for both the link-cleanup (agreed that it's easy enough to re-add or have more discussion if that other editor returns and is interested) and the alert about the commons image nom. I commented there. DMacks (talk) 02:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Hi, since you were a blocking admin on one of these I thought I would post this here. User:24.114.67.56 inserted Tesla PUSH'y edits at Radio diff, diff. Brand new account User:Electivo000 popped up right after that to insert more Tesla PUSH'yness diff. User:24.114.67.56 is identified as a sockpuppet of blocked user User:Filipz123 here. User:Electivo000 takes credit for User:24.114.67.56's Radio edit here. If I should be taking this to ANI instead let me know. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 02:00, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

That was my IP then I made an account. I'm not a sockpuppet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Electivo000 (talkcontribs) 02:02, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

FYI, this has been moved on to SPI. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 02:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for the message and following up (and sending to SPI while I was off doing other stuff:)...obvious sock is obvious, blocking thereof likewise. DMacks (talk) 04:08, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Commandernavy sockpuppet

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obvious sock is obvious. --182.66.12.77 (talk) 18:06, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

IP rollback?

Based on https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Amusement_park&diff=prev&oldid=733045909 - rollback all by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.114.54.197 per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.114.59.66 & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.114.66.79 - ? - please action as appropriate, I don't have rollback. Thanks. 81.141.41.74 (talk) 12:21, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Looks like we both had the same idea. What do you think we should do? Merge? I'd have thought that Victorium would be the better article name, given that Monium only seems to have lasted its through its first year and its tentative symbol was Vc. Brycehughes (talk) 20:56, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

I went ahead and merged them. Feel free to move/edit as you think best. Brycehughes (talk) 00:17, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Definitely merge. I have no strong feeling about which gets the actual article, but longer-lasting (historically) and given a symbol seem like good enough reasons to go with Monium (element)Victorium as you have done. Thanks! Great minds and all that:) DMacks (talk) 02:02, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

15:41, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Fluorescent lamps

I appreciate your message about your opinions on what clutters up articles histories. However, I find that reverting my changeset with the the messsage "useless edit" to be dismissive, harassing, and ultimately self-defeating. Please restrain yourself. 178.16.2.15 (talk) 02:45, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
It was a single case, of the many you did. I picked one that had no other useful changes, specifically so wikipedia software would alert you that an edit of yours was undone, and then I posted to your talkpage explaining exactly why. I don't recommend you edit-war it, but instead undo your undoing as a sign of good faith, since your edit is disputed (ball's in your court to get consensus for change) and you now seem to be doing it solely to make some point about its disruptive nature. DMacks (talk) 02:50, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

Of and Off

Regarding this revert, I think the form with "off" is grammatically wrong. --Daniele Pugliesi (talk) 14:23, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

How about "branches off of"? Strict grammar can't be a reason to be less technically correct or potentially ambiguous in meaning. DMacks (talk) 14:25, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Post

I like "Post" as well, and I think it's particularly good for talk pages. However, I suspect that it might be less popular with our fellow editors. It would probably be rejected because it "sounds like a social media site" and is "too informal for a serious encyclopedia". (And on the staff side, it may be rejected for being even harder to translate. At least with "Publish", everyone can agree that it should be the same word that gets used in copyright laws, and that should cover every language that is an official language for any country (and even some former ones).) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 15:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of KACE (AM) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article KACE (AM) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/KACE (AM) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Bearcat (talk) 21:07, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Deletion of Musetti due G11

Hi, unfortunately you decided Musetti page I created violates G11 ? What is the difference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Houtte for example? I was following just similar structure to keep it simple and without commercial info. Company Musetti exists and this is fact, I do not understanfd your judgemnet.

Bryanbryansk (talk) 21:08, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

That other page does not have fluffy marketting terms and praise, but instead dispassionately describes things. And it's also a cut'n'paste from some other website, a Wikipedia:Copyright violations problem that I did not notice at that time that would have also led to immediate deletion (WP:G12). It's not surprising that a company's own website would be written as an ad, rather than as as neutrally worded encyclopedia article. DMacks (talk) 21:40, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

19:37, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Wikibomb

Yeah thanks for reverting the revrt - very valid - in process of trying to resolve the article and issues - please keep on watch - hope to resolve soon JarrahTree 02:34, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: As far as I can tell, the current content needs to completely go away--WP:TNT as copyvio of the cited ref, whose site asserts a non-free license). If you or someone could write from scratch a sentence or two, that will mean we can at least keep a stub while discussing it further. DMacks (talk) 02:38, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
yeah well intentioned but wrong tackle, sigh JarrahTree 02:42, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

21:18, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

Paraquat

Hi, I have documentation for all of my edits on the paraquat page. They all come from the same source. And the article itself, as I explained in my edit notes, is already skewed toward suggesting paraquat is safe. The conclusion of the article is simply not true, there is not consensus on the safety of smoking paraquat contaminated pot. Stayhomegal (talk) 20:31, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

"They all come from the same source" was not at all obvious (as I noted). DMacks (talk) 14:16, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

How could such a self published source be considered reliable? --Antigng (talk) 04:41, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

As best I can tell, it's the company saying how its customers use its product. That seems to be reasonable support that the product can be used in that way. The use of NaCl as a flux for Al seems fairly common...US EPA report for example, which confirms that the company's publication is at least in the ballpark of an actually used process. DMacks (talk) 04:58, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

16:01, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

How does X work?

Hi, I have created an article page on Wikipedia page, by mistake some content deleted by me and I don't know when it happened without my knowledge. Now, the Wikipedia say that: It is proposed that this article is removed because of the following concern: The non-notable website fails WP: WEB and the general notability guideline.

If you can address this concern by improving, copyediting, sourcing, renaming, or merging the page, please edit this page and do so. You may remove this message if you improve the article or otherwise object to deletion for any reason. Although not required, you are encouraged to explain why you object to the deletion, either in your edit summary or on the talk page. If this template is removed, do not replace it.

Can you help me, how could I recover the page. Plz help me


Madhumandal121 (talk) 04:53, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

It's simple: It's there's not a lot of news sources and reviews, it's not yet acceptable. SwisterTwister talk 04:54, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks User:SwisterTwister! DMacks (talk) 22:37, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

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Richard Smallwood article

My name is Richard Smallwood. I'm a recording artist, composer, musician. I replaced a VERY outdated bio with my current one, from my record label only to have it taken down and replaced with one that is not representative of my accomplishments or where I am in my career today. You mentioned something about it not being "neutral to you". I have no idea what is meant by that and would like more clarification. This is my official, latest bio from RCA. Thank you Richard Lee Smallwood — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smallrich (talkcontribs) 19:35, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Two major issues: First, licensing policy: if you are using someone else's content, you must have their permission to make an explicit open-license release. That's something record labels are almost never willing to do (thinking "we're giving away our content and letting anyone use it for any purpose for free?!?!?!?!"). Second, any content must be completely objective, no emotional-appeal, future-predicting, vague-but-excessive praise, etc. That's pretty much the opposite of how any organization or agent would write about any public personality or artist. See our conflict of interest guideline, for example. DMacks (talk) 20:33, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Azad Maidan Riots

Hi DMacks,

I saw that you have flagged a photo for deletion. Please note that this was a very iconic photo from the riots and EVERY newspaper showed this single photo. The article would be incomplete without this. File:Desecration of Amar Jawan Jyoti during Azad Maidan riots.jpg

Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria, wikipedia's policy on non-free images, says that we could only consider it if this exact image's "presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." DMacks (talk) 20:04, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Regarding notable alumni of IIT BHU

Hello DMacks,

I recently added Ganesh Rengaswamy to notable alumni. He is an alummnus of Harvard Business School and a co-founder of Travelguru.com, which was India's first online travel company. Currently, he is co-founder of Quona Capital, a Venture Capital firm. Check him here: http://www.itbhuglobal.org/chronicle/archives/2009/07/interview_with_20.php http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=26489987&privcapId=308523133

Myself a current student at IIT BHU. Rajanarora95 (talk) 11:28, 2 September 2016 (UTC)September 2, 16:57(GMT +5:30)

Hi DMacks, I am from the Alumni Cell of IIT BHU and request you to check out Ganesh. He is the co-founder of one of the the most-notable travel companies of India. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajanarora95 (talkcontribs) 11:42, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Please see WP:BIO for what it means to be "notable" in the context of wikipedia, and the importance of reliable independent sources. It is not quite the plain-language meaning, is not strictly about the notability of projects or organizations with which they have been involved, and apparently is not what you think. From experience, it's often difficult for editors (myself included) to be completely objective when writing about our own organizations even as best we try (see the conflict of interest guideline). DMacks (talk) 20:25, 2 September 2016 (UTC)

Rajan: Sorry for the late reply, I saw now (3 Sep, 12.19 (GMT+5.30). I don't think you know that notability guidelines are for checking whether a topic warrants its own article, not criteria for notable alumni. I see that you live in the US, and may not be aware of what may qualify as notability in Indian institutions. In the absence of Wikipedia guidelines of who may be considered among notable alumni, I think you should leave it to the institution (IIT BHU) to decide. Please mail any queries to alumnicell@iitbhu.ac.in of which I am the official student representative. Moreover, if you checked, many other notable alumni in Science and Technology are simple professors, not even Dept. Chairs. I suggest you leave it to the institution to decide, as it is not disinformation and a simple matter of subjectivity. Thanks for your patience. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajanarora95 (talkcontribs) 06:56, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

If someone has an article, then either they have notability, or their article needs to be deleted. Notability is not a cultural phenomenon, it is a wikipedia standard for our website here. You are welcome to set up your own website for your own alumni or your own culture-specific aspects (even wikipedia in other languages has varying standards). But again, here, it is explicit that being a professor or even department chair, or even dean (to use US terminology) is not sufficient. And an alumni group's own website is not sufficient at all. And an alumni representative really shouldn't be doing this at all. Perhaps you think wikipedia is a free place to post whatever you (or anyone who wants to post) thinks is appropriate or to use your own sense of what is important (or "notable"). But that is completely wrong, and you can easily have your permission to post here revoked if you don't follow the rules here. DMacks (talk) 20:08, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

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17:12, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Badak LNG Deletion

Dear DMacks, i cant understand why you are deleting Badak LNG, this company is real and very important. You can contact me admbusdev@badaklng.co.id for further info, or you can see the info for yourself at www.badaklng.co.id I already make Badak LNG article in idwiki and there is no problem. The reason for deletion still unclear. Badak LNG is the biggest revenue maker for Indonesia in LNG sector, you cannot just delete the article like that. I hope you read it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Candra Aditya Wiguna (talkcontribs) 08:10, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

The reasons are posted several times times on your talkpage. Go read them...really, go read them carefully until you understand. To summarize: I know nothing about other wikipedia sites, but nothing "there" matters for content "here", which is what we talk about here. You are not allowed to copy content from other websites without their permission. For copyright violations, yes, I certainly can and always do delete a page "just like that"--it is our policy here. Once the copyright problem was fixed, there was nothing left of the article to demonstrate that the company is "notable" (again, WP:CSD#A7 explicitly does permit prompt deletion in this case). I hope you now recognize these problems. And why your whole topic area is a problem. DMacks (talk) 08:22, 6 September 2016 (UTC)