Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/17 September 2016 United States attacks

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The result was delete. Consensus is that at this point, these attacks cannot be discussed in the same article. A clearer connection that would justify such an article may arise in the future. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:52, 26 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

17 September 2016 United States attacks

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Not a notable topic per WP:NOTNEWS, and they're not all related to each other. It wouldn't do as a disambiguation page either. epicgenius (talk) 23:41, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. General Ization ^Talk 23:42, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. epicgenius (talk) 23:43, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete There is ZERO evidence that these attacks are connected in anyway, the only other thing that could be done is to redirect this to Category:Attacks in the United States in 2016. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:44, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- I do not understand how you could jump to the conclusion of no connection when investigators and officials themselves have have stated connections.--Izudrunkizuhadenough (talk) 23:46, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  - The reason for my nomination is that there isn't enough evidence, if any, that all three attacks are connected. Maybe two, but most likely this is an unfortunate coincidence. epicgenius (talk) 23:48, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

At this time it is being discussed as possible but so far there are no hard facts or evidence linking all three events. You could argue that the NY, and NJ events are connected but again there is too little to go on there as well right now. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 23:49, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Way too soon for this. There is no evidence that these are connected events. The most recent coverage I can find (CBS as of a few minutes ago) http://www.cbsnews.com/news/three-attacks-minnesota-chelsea-new-jersey-investigations-links-unclear/ very definitely does not connect the events, with lins such as "didn’t appear to be connected, officials said, but added that they weren’t ruling anything out yet", "any clear link between the devices, has not been established." "people should not jump to conclusions about who may be responsible for the blast or what the motive was", and "have not yet definitively made the connection between the blast in Chelsea, New York City, Saturday night that left more than two dozen injured, and the blast in Seaside." Meters (talk) 00:02, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - WP:SYNTH and WP:OR. There is absolutely NO EVIDENCE that these are connected. As Epicgenius said, there's only a very slim chance only two of the aforementioned incidents may be connected, but this has yet to be confirmed, and officials are starting to imply that may not be the case. At most, September 17, 2016, was just a very unfortunate day for America. Parsley Man (talk) 00:21, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep No matter what they are connected by being 3 attacks on the same day in the same country where highly publicized terror attacks occur on average less than once a month. In addition most experts believe at least 2 are connected. Other articles exist just by the dating coincidence. --Izudrunkizuhadenough (talk) 01:02, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
— Note to closing admin: Izudrunkizuhadenough (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this XfD. — Izudrunkizuhadenough (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. . Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:58, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Most experts DO NOT believe at least two are connected; all I'm seeing right now is just one Fox News report. Also, would you mind giving examples of said articles created just by dating coincidences? Parsley Man (talk) 01:04, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I should note that Fox News is the only known major news source that is not subject to liberal media bias however, so maybe that is why it has not been connected by the other stations.--150.216.224.131 (talk) 07:27, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Rapidly delete as clear SYNTH/OR. Zero RS evidence that anything is connected. EvergreenFir (talk) 03:36, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note that the 3 events are regularly grouped by the media: Washington Post [1] and by politicians, here Clinton in that WaPo article condemning “apparent terrorist attacks” in Minnesota, New Jersey and New York. There is at this point no clarity on whether the NY and NJ bombings are linked, and no indication that the perp in Minnesota was connected to the NY/NJ bombings. What is still unclear in the extent to which these 3 violent attacks will be discussed as a group. Only time will tell.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:07, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - even if only New York and New Jersey events are related, they may extend beyond one day, including Elizabeth explosion Zr2d2 (talk) 12:01, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment by nominator: Not that it affects this AFD, but the same person of interest is wanted in both the NY and NJ bombings. The MN stabbing still looks unrelated, hence this AFD is unaffected. epicgenius (talk) 13:37, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 15:30, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keepand fix through normal editing. I daresay events on the ground have outpaced this discussion. We know from today's NYT update that Ahmad Khan Rahami is a suspect in a bona fide series of terror-related incidents: Chelsea; Seaside Park, N.J. as well as multiple bombs found in Elizabeth, N.J. The out-of-state stabbing can just be cut from the article (and the article renamed if need be). Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:38, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete and redirect if desired to 2016 New York and New Jersey bombings. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:58, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to September 17 (general list of events on that date). KATMAKROFAN (talk) 20:39, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - This article is even more redundant given the New York and New Jersey incidents have JUST been connected and given a singular article to boot, with Minnesota seemingly out of the picture for the moment. Parsley Man (talk) 22:59, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – (WP:NOTNEWS); also there's nothing, as of yet or possibly, to connect the New York/New Jersey area bombings and attempted bombings to the stabbing in Minnesota. Adog104 ^{Talk to me} 00:00, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I see the two bombings have already been combined. Unless there is something to connect the bombings with the stabbings, these are probably coincidence.Nooneisneutral (talk) 11:29, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – and snow close — 2016 New York and New Jersey bombings. —MelbourneStar☆^talk 07:31, 21 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, original research and already covered elsewhere. ¡Boz zio! 05:17, 22 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The date does not connect these events. WP:SYNTH (WP:DEL6) and WP:NOTNEWS (WP:DEL14). Unscintillating (talk) 17:25, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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