Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anti-Bengali sentiment
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. Please start a talk page discussion on a possible article page move. There are a lot of opinions about this article and it shouldn't be one editor's decision on what its title should be. Liz Read! Talk! 22:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
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The whole article is WP:OR and is making connection of any unfavorable event that occurred in or around West Bengal as discrimination against its people. Ratnahastin (talk) 09:08, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Comment I am withdrawing this nomination since the article went through a page move and that move appears to have been accepted by multiple editors on this AfD. I don't support deletion anymore as long as the suggested page move has been preferred. Ratnahastin (talk) 14:31, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Ethnic groups, Social science, and West Bengal. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 10:54, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
DeleteWP:POVFORK of various articles. Orientls (talk) 12:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)- Delete Too much WP:SYNTH and it is not a notable topic on its own. Agletarang (talk) 18:53, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
- Strong Keep There are numerous sources in the article documenting the discriminations against Bengalis which makes this topic notable per WP:GNG. This article is even selected as one of the Level 5 Vital articles in English Wikipedia. Shubhrojeet (talk) 05:38, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- DELETE - such existence will incite communal hatred in Wikipedia. This kind of page shouldn't be allowed in Wikipedia. --Twinkle1990 (talk) 09:01, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Doesn't make sense, I don't remember we have rules like this in Wikipedia. We have many types of articles like this. For example, Anti-Chinese sentiment in Japan. Mehedi Abedin 12:11, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Discrimination happens against almost every social group but the topic has to be notable as well. Lorstaking (talk) 09:50, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per nom and all unfavorable events that occurred in or around West Bengal as discrimination against its people.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 19:54, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: While this might be a clear Delete, I'm seeing too much opinion and not enough policy-based arguments about this article. Let's lower the temperature and consider how this article does or doesn't abide by Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Just because discrimination happens against other groups isn't a good reason to delete this particular article. I also note that this AFD has been available for closure for over 13 hours and no admin has opted to close it which made me consider whether it needed more substantive discussion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I did a google scholar search for "anti-bengali discrimination india" and found a decent number of sources that seem to contribute to WP:GNG. I don't see a good reason to delete at this time.CarringtonMist (talk) 16:10, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Although there is an issue with original research, there is also a decent amount of directly-related sources. Definitely needs to be cleaned up though. Perhaps since the page has been renamed, expand its coverage to include anti-Bengali sentiment in Pakistan/Myanmar. 70.176.221.156 (talk) 01:35, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
- 70.176.221.156 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
DeleteNot denying that there is discrimination. It is just that the topic is not notable enough for a stand-alone article. Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 18:14, 24 May 2024 (UTC)- Delete Does not need a standalone article for this WP:SYNTH. Most of the content is only about the language-related issues and religiously motivated discrimination where the victim happened to be Bengali speaker. Captain AmericanBurger1775 (talk) 01:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I have just done a massive (~1hr) edit on the article, stripping it of extensive OR/SYNTH and a lottttt of off-topic/unencyclopedic content. Despite the massive removals, I feel a pretty solid article remains, one that I've hopefully stripped down to the most relevant content (and thoroughly marked remaining statements in need of sources). I'm a bit scared to venture into picking/defining RSes myself, as an overly cautious editor, but given the statements from others above that more sources DO seem to exist, I hope I've paved the way for this to be an easier "keep and improve" Chiselinccc (talk) 08:56, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'd like to see opinions after Chiselinccc's massive clean-up job on this article.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:07, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep It is strange because although the title is Anti-Bengali sentiment, its content is mainly about Discrimination against Bengalis in India. I didn’t searches for sources about anti-Bengali sentiment in India. But I found many sources about Discrimination against Bengalis in Pakistan (pre-1971) and we can add Pakistan section that will make the article better. Even some sources say that in present Bengali people living in Karachi, Pakistan are facing discrimination. The title is "Anti-Bengali sentiment" so by adding the Pakistan part we can keep this article. Mehedi Abedin 12:07, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - there is a fair bit of well-sourced information, and Chiselinccc's definitely puts it in keep now. Brat Forelli🦊 00:55, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
- My above !vote was made when the article's title was "Discrimination against Bengalis in India". But now the title has been changed,[1] and some cleanup has been peformed,[2] I am going to say "Keep". Georgethedragonslayer (talk) 02:33, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep but possibly merge, move with a change of title. Right now, it still needs a lot of editing. Bearian (talk) 16:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per above with the page move. Orientls (talk) 07:57, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.