Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gannon Cup

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The result was delete. Seems like nobody is advocating to keep here. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 06:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Gannon Cup

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The only thing that I can find that backs up even the existence of this race is the included image of unknown origin. Beyond that, I can find no primary or secondary sources that would even begin to support this race as a notable subject. The linked YouTube video doesn't seem to give the race the name used for this article. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 14:06, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment My guess is this could be a minor company-sponsored race that is considered trivial by the press. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 14:19, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This was the ninth race on the Wednesday of Derby week. As I recall, the Derby itself is the ninth race on Saturday. Unscintillating (talk) 02:24, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Churchill Downs has all sorts of races that week as part of the Spring Meet, Of course, a difference between one 9th race and another is the coverage. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 12:23, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Regards, Krishna Chaitanya Velaga (talk • mail) 14:30, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment Searched Newsbank, Highbeam, and Newspapers.com. I found a golf tournament in Maryland and a boat race in Ireland, but no mention of this horse race. This may not even be the most notable Gannon Cup! Acdixon ^{(talk · contribs)} 15:24, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Article lists this as a 1 1/6 mile race run in 1:44:14. There don't seem to be 1 1/6 mile horse races. [1] gives the fastest time for 9 furlongs (1 1/8 mile) as 1:45.25. 1 1/8 miles is 1 3/24 miles while 1 1/6 miles is the longer 1 4/24 miles. A possible explanation, not as good as a reliable source, is that the 1 1/6 miles should be 1 1/16 miles, where the best time on the dirt is 1:36.40. Unscintillating (talk) 23:57, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Sources show that Corrupt won the ninth race on the Wednesday before the 1st Saturday in May in 2008 at Churchill Downs, so this is all credible, but with the only known reference for the existence of the topic being the official program from Churchill Downs, the topic currently fails WP:V#Notability. Unscintillating (talk) 02:24, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
- Perhaps credible insofar as one race in one year, although I haven't seen anything hard that labels the race as the "Gannon Cup". Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 12:20, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: The guidelines at NHORSERACING generally need a horse race to be a graded stakes race as a threshold. Putting that name into equibase.com brings up nothing. (Also, horse races are never run at 1-1/6 mile, they may have meant 1-1/16 mile). Looking up the race record of the horse Corrupt, I see he did win a race the week before the Kentucky Derby in 2008 with results described here but the race is described as an "Allowance optional claiming" race -- unnamed, ungraded. So unless my colleagues at WikiProject Horse racing find something I can't, this race is too insignificant to meet NHORSERACING. Delete. Montanabw^(talk) 20:32, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I don't have the 2008 Racing Almanac to hand, but the 2007 does not list any "Gannon Cup" as a graded stakes race in the US. Typically, stakes have to have several years of history before actually reaching graded stakes status - so the lack of it appearing in the 2007 edition is pretty much proof that it's not graded and thus fails to have enough coverage to satisfy GNG. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:37, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I just can't come up with ANY source material. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 20:58, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Montanabw....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 00:33, 18 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Equibase shows the race won by Corrupt on April 30 2008 was an "Allowance Optional Claiming" race with no mention of the "Gannon Cup" title.[2] Not a notable race. Tigerboy1966 06:51, 20 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.