Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gina Iniong

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The result was delete. Consensus is that the subject doesn't meet WP:NMMA or WP:GNG. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 04:27, 29 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gina Iniong

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Subject is a MMA fighters. Fails WP:MMABIO notability requirements as subject has not fought in any top tier promotion and not secured any major title. Sources included major is record of routine sport info which would considered as trivial routine sport report. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 12:16, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - per nom. Bubbasax (talk) 23:45, 14 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I don't get the reasoning of the nomination since this article should not have been created in the first place if Ms. Iniong is not notable given the coverage of media outlets when you click on the Google News articles about her (aside from ABS-CBN news). But since the bio is about an MMA female fighter, there must be at least some notability for example her participation on ONE Championship competitions and her current MMA rank in the South East Asia region. First claim: Not Notabile based on not having a fight under any top tier promotion? Like not being represented by Top Rank or Golden Boy Promotion? Okay. (Sorry, those are boxing promotion companies though). Second claim: No major titles won. Fair enough. Third claim: All sources/references are just citing record of routine sport info and will fall as "trivial report". So the article are just about plain statistics like game logs? Please elaborate on this one. And also, can someone else comment on this third claim? I don't watch MMA though so I am commenting on the form (references, lay-out, lead, verifiability, etc.) which I find okay. I am the only dissenting vote here so please change my mind particularly on the third claim.—Allenjambalaya (talk) 13:24, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Allenjambalaya Pls read WP:MMABIO and WP:NSPORT.. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 13:30, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - So, she has 6 matches under ONE Championship, a second tier MMA promotion company. Since they need at least three female fighters in top 5 (regardless of weight class), they fall under the second tier. So she needs to win a championship for this article to be kept. Okay. I checked some fighters under ONE Championship (e.g. Mei Yamaguchi, Stamp Fairtex, Ritu Phogat) and no one is looking to delete them though. So yeah, maybe I'm already geared to a weak delete vote probably?—Allenjambalaya (talk) 13:58, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment WP:MMABIO notability guidelines state a MMA fighter only notable if they have fought at least 3 fight under tier one promoter such as UFC or Invicta. ONE championship is not tier one promoter, so the subject fails the notability guidelines. Those ONE Chamionshps fighters with no other notability qualifier could be nominated for AfD, when I have time I will look into AfD if they dont meet MMABIO- see ONE Championship fighter AfD deletion article via AfD Edward Kelly, Jerremy Pacatiw, joshua Pacio, Saygid Guseyn arslanaliev, Zebaztian, Tial Thang, Joshua Pacio, Geje Eustaquio, ONE Championship champion Martin Nguyen and even the fighter less than 3 fighters in tier on promotion (UFC) fighters article was deleted - see Ariane Lipski, Arman Tsarukyan, Tristan Connelly and etc. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 15:00, 15 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete She has no top tier MMA fights so she definitely fails to meet WP:NMMA. The coverage seems to consist of sports reporting that would be typical for any professional fighter and the onefc articles are not independent. I don't believe that WP:GNG is met. Papaursa (talk) 01:02, 17 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NNADIGOODLUCK (Talk|Contribs) 15:01, 21 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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