Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ILLmacuLate

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 01:23, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ILLmacuLate

Fails WP:MUSIC, no evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications. JBsupreme (talk) 06:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- the wub "?!" 14:11, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:02, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my oh my. The nominator deleted content from this article prior to making this nomination, content that helps to establish notability. I've restored it, and added a bunch of sources, enough to establish WP:GNG notability. Keep. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:19, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - As far as I can tell he just meets one of the WP:MUSIC requirements for notability: "Has won or placed in a major music competition." I'm not sure if the Scribble Jam competition is truly "major", but I guess it'll do. (Changed from 'delete per nom') ~~SIS~~ 21:35, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking that he meets WP:MUSIC criterion #1, which is WP:GNG. There's a rather detailed article about him in The Portland Mercury, and non-trivial mentions in several newspapers including the Chicago Tribune. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:50, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Chicago Tribune ref appears to write about the entire festival, not so much about the rapper, but I have no way to check that. The Portland Mercury looked a bit too local and "bloggy" to me. While winning the 2004 competition was beyond any doubt. So I went for the one requirement I was sure of. ~~SIS~~ 22:03, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mr.Z-man 23:18, 5 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, RockManQ ^(talk) 01:15, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. I don't see how winning a minor award or being mentioned in a trivial contest quite qualifies. Still, it's marginal. Xihr 04:07, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right, if it were an award that was never mentioned in any newspapers, I would agree. But his winning Scribble Jam got him a mention in The Register-Guard, the Columbus Dispatch, the Dayton Daily News, and the Chicago Tribune. His winning the World Rap Championships is mentioned in The Portland Mercury and The Register-Guard (separately from the previous mention). He is also mentioned in Vibe magazine. This is why I was arguing based solely on "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 22:01, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.