Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/North Texas Film Critics Association

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete without prejudice against a move to User or Draft space and a subsequent rewrite. Though any rewritten article would, of course, have to demonstrate notability through independent, reliable sources. Eluchil404 (talk) 02:18, 10 January 2016 (UTC) [reply]

North Texas Film Critics Association

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Aside from the fact we already have three Texas film-critics associations — for Austin, Dallas–Fort Worth, and Houston — this group is composed of just eight individuals writing primarily for non-notable websites and in at least two cases a personal blog. (See list at right here.) Additionally, it's based in Dallas, so the individuals and/or their outlets are so non-notable that the Dallas–Fort Worth Film Critics Association doesn't accept them.

As with other small, regional film-critics groups that already have been deleted for non-notability, virtually all the citations in this article are from places simply announcing the group's year-end list. There are no third-party citations about the group itself — and at least one citation is to one of its members' own blogs! This seems one more case of film buffs who in some if not most cases here are nonprofessional critics and essentially just movie fans writing for free. Tenebrae (talk) 00:24, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:20, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:20, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 04:20, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I have previously suggested a possible criterion: awards ceremonies where the nominees are not present, where the winners might not even accept any award, are not likely to be notable. Anyhow, the material is just what the organization's website should post. I don't know whether all the sources can be completely dismissed, but I notice the 2012 Indiewire source is merely a recitation of the awards named. Best recorded at their website; non-encyclopedic. --do ncr am 04:43, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable organization, with no apparent impact on the film industry. I am not sure about notability of the members, as most film critics are non-notable regardless of their writing on blogs or respected newspapers. Dimadick (talk) 12:29, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Stubify I agree with nom, this is simply a list of the films they've voted and gives nothing more (actually less) than their own web site. For this to be an article there would need to be more about the organization. More can be found, although it is thin: this. There is also evidence that the group is taken seriously by professionals this. So remove the lists of winners, leaving only the lead, add a stub tag, and see if the article can be expanded as an actual encyclopedia article. LaMona (talk) 15:53, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

- The link showing "evidence that the group is taken seriously by professionals" [1] really does not: It just lists the group's "Best Documentary" award within a huge laundry list of awards and nominations — including by the Indiana and Utah film-critic groups, which have been found to be non-notable and had their Wikipedia articles deleted. That's just a promotional page for a documentary, so it includes every single award it can, no matter how trivial--Tenebrae (talk) 16:52, 3 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and & draft and userfy for now as there may not be a better solidly notable article here yet. Notifying past content contributor Dravecky. SwisterTwister talk 05:31, 5 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.