Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TWaver

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 01:47, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

TWaver

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Non-notable software/GUI toolkit. Appears lack significant third party coverage per WP:GNG. VQuakr (talk) 02:18, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Without providing third party references the authors of this article have not met their WP:BURDEN. Miami33139 (talk) 02:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This software claims that It provides a set of ready-to-use components and bussiness objects for building various telecommunication Business Support System (BSS), Operation Support System (OSS), Network Management System (NMS) and Element Management System (EMS) including network topology view, equipment view, maps, dashbord, node, link, group, rack, card and etc., whatever that means. Ah, three letter acronyms! At any rate, there's no indication that this software product has long term historical notability or historical, technical, or cultural significance. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Software article with no 3rd party references or indication of notability. Created by single-issue user, so possible spam/advert. Dialectric (talk) 21:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete No sources, no evidence anywhere of notability. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

At first as a new user of wikipedia I just want to introduce the excellent TWaver to everyone, The only reason is I think TWaver really deserve it. Secondly, I try my best to describe it objectively, you can see how many customer it already has http://www.servasoftware.com/twaver.php?p_id=18. The reason why it is not "notable" like what you says it is only because TWaver is only focus on GUI of Telecom industry, and it is only a plug-in unit of the software. No company will post the news that they use a plug-in to do software development, right? At last, TWaver is really a outstanding plugin-in for network development, you guys can search "network TWaver".

It's my first article in wikipedia. Thanks. Swinggeek (talk) 03:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whatever the reason why it doesn't satisfy Wikipedia's notability criteria, if it doesn't do so then it doesn't warrant an article. However "outstanding" TWaver is, and however much it "really deserves" to be introduced to everyone, that has nothing to do with Wikipedia's inclusion criteria. Finally "I just want to introduce the excellent TWaver to everyone" means that you have written the article to promote TWaver, which is against Wikipedia policy. JamesBWatson (talk) 07:13, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please let me know! Does anybody here know alcatel-lucent??? As a TWaver customer I has nothing else to argue with any more. Pick some "third-party" you know.

http://www.servasoftware.com/twaver.php?p_id=18 Swinggeek (talk) 02:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Reliable for details on what reliable sourcing would entail. In suggesting the use of '3rd party' sources, I had meant sources from a neutral, reliable publication. That is, sources from an organization or individual that makes, distributes, or has some financial or other significant personal interest in the software would not be a neutral 3rd party. Dialectric (talk) 15:56, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.