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June 25

Category:Water parks in Idaho

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The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here. (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:41, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Water parks in Idaho

Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary subcategory of Category:Amusement parks in Idaho. The only entry both categories has is the same park. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:11, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

comment Maybe I'm confused but the article claims that they are two separate parks which are adjacent to each other; it even gives a separate name for the water park. Possibly the main article needs to be split. Mangoe (talk) 12:57, 28 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:2000s East Coast hip hop album stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 21:14, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:2000s East Coast hip hop album stubs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Emptied a couple times by a non-existent user (?). If this category is desired, then the template needs to direct to this category, and it needs to be reasonably populated, as all stub categories should be (60 articles or more). As it is, category is empty and the user seems to want to keep it that way. Propose deleting this category. Dawynn (talk) 13:42, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Dawynn: Could you provide some more information about "emptied a couple times by a non-existent user (?)"? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:43, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- User "Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars" redirected the template on March 16, 2018, thus emptying the category. The user evidently exists, but has no user page. On June 15, I tried to use the template to put *something* back in the category. On June 19, the same user again redirected the template back to the parent category. While I agree that the template is not tagged on enough pages to justify a separate category, emptying the category without following proper CFD procedures is not the right thing to do. Thus, this follow-up to actually delete the empty category. Dawynn (talk) 12:41, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:African comedians

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The result of the discussion was: relisted, see here (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:African comedians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Empty category. It doesn't follow the category structure since there are no other Comedians by continent categories. P 1 9 9 ✉ 13:33, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Place Clichy (talk) 09:31, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. We have a parent category for "African people by occupation"; I don't see why we can't just populate this and create similar categories for other continents. However, I'm not immediately clear how useful this is, so I can imagine someone making a "not particularly useful" argument for deletion. Nyttend (talk) 01:03, 2 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Intra-Palestinian peace efforts

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Intra-Palestinian peace efforts to Category:Fatah–Hamas reconciliation process

Nominator's rationale: C2D per Fatah–Hamas reconciliation process. Charles Essie (talk) 18:57, 17 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mild oppose as the scope of this category seems wider than that of the article. It includes other articles mentioning peace efforts involving other organisations than Fatah and Hamas, such as PFLP and DFLP, which have seen serious confrontation in the past. Place Clichy (talk) 10:33, 19 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 25 June 2018 (UTC) [reply]

Comment: On the other hand, there are no articles currently in the category that do not encompass reconciliation between Fatah & Hamas. – Fayenatic London 08:30, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Palestinian Cairo Declaration mentions twelve Palestinian factions, including Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) and Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP). Palestinian Prisoners' Document mentions five prisoners [...] respectively affiliated with Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP). Therefore hardly part of the "Fatah–Hamas reconciliation process". Place Clichy (talk) 09:31, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Redirects from Twitter usernames

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The result of the discussion was: keep. ℯ xplicit 03:49, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Redirects from Twitter usernames (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Procedural nomination; I am neutral on the question. At Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Redirect and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 June 23, there have been discussions about getting rid of this category. Please remember to address only the issue of having this category; any votes only addressing the idea of having the redirects themselves should be ignored. Nyttend (talk) 04:12, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I propose that the notable ones like "@realDonaldTrump" are converted to "realDonaldTrump". People who type the "@" will get the first search result what they were looking for. wumbolo ^^^ 11:35, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
- That is both incorrect (those not including the @ will only get to the target they were looking for in some circumstances, and even when they do get search results the first result will be different in some circumstances, e.g. @sweden/Sweden) and irrelevant to the category (both examples are redirects from twitter usernames) -it is a (flawed) argument against having redirects starting with @ (which has not been proposed in any of the myriad discussions to date that I am aware of). Thryduulf (talk) 11:43, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  - Striken; Wumbulo is free to offer a vote or a non-vote comment on the category, but irrelevant votes like this one are not appropriate. Nyttend (talk) 12:18, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. As long as we have redirects from twitter usernames (and both "@realDonaldTrump" and "realDonaldTrump" are examples of such) then having a category to collate them is a Good Thing for exactly the same reason all the other categories of redirects exist - including facilitating maintenance and checking for accuracy. Thryduulf (talk) 11:41, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Serves a purpose as long as we have redirects from Twitter usernames. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 17:21, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:RCAT. As long as there are redirects of a certain kind/type/category, they should be categorized, and they should populate their category by placing a redirect category (rcat) template on their pages. Paine Ellsworth ^put'r there 02:50, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment it may be useful to wait closing this discussion until the discussion about deleting the redirects themselves has been closed. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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