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Turkey

Kemal Baysak (Tram İzmir)

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Not notable. Cremastra (u — c) 15:23, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:JNN. That said, Redirect to Tram İzmir, which could have been done as a WP:BOLD action. - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 21:46, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Madame Coco

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Previously moved to Draft, which means that WP:DRAFTOBJECT prevents unilateral draftification. Consensus based draftification remains a possibility alongside deletion or retention. Fails WP:NCORP as presented here, crammed with WP:CITEKILL, is WP:ADMASQ 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 23:32, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Soner Baskaya

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Fails to satisfy WP:NPROF. Very low h-index and no indication of WP:SIGCOV (alternative criteria when there's no indication of notability per WP:NPROF). TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 09:53, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment. Not my field but there are several fairly highly cited papers in GS[1] (201, 198, 116). Espresso Addict (talk) 23:10, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elifenur Karabulut

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Turkish female footballer. A WP:BEFORE search only reveals database entries and nothing in depth to establish notability. John B123 (talk) 09:48, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - all I can find is this, which looks AI generated and doesn't contain any WP:SIGCOV in any case. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 10:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 11:10, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Found no coverage, hence no sources. If sigcov is found please also ping me. CNC (talk) 11:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per above. Svartner (talk) 12:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Fail to meet WP:GNG (WP:FOOTYN) criteria. No sources provided in the article. User generated articles available online. No content to WP:V. QEnigma talk 12:08, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
NFOOTY doesn't exist anymore, and user-generated sites should never be used as sources on Wikipedia. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:35, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Master (2009 film)

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Tagged years ago in both languages, and the cite is not enough to show notability. Hard to search for English name as is common word. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:58, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I added some sources, one of which is a detailed review by Turkish film critic Atilla Dorsay. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 00:23, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: sources added seem to show the film is notable enough. Thanks! A redirect to a list is warranted; opposed to deletion. -Mushy Yank. 13:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep as per the detailed review added to the article and identified above, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

JOJO (Turkish children's channel)

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Tagged five years ago as uncited. The cites on the Turkish article are not enough to show that it is notable Chidgk1 (talk) 14:46, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Çukurova Media Group#Defunct properties Nothing here outside of marking its existence and the usual uncited and vandal-vulnerable programming list. Nate • (chatter) 17:20, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kanal D (International)

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Tagged 7 years ago as completely unsourced. I only found one reasonable source https://www.milliyet.com.tr/magazin/cannesa-kanal-d-damgasi-7219054 Chidgk1 (talk) 06:57, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - I found some sources from a turkish newspaper Hürriyet Daily News, Varity, issue and BBC. Mysecretgarden (talk) 10:14, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Passing mentions. For a company such as this we need sources that meet WP:CORPDEPTH. Click the link and you'll see the kind of thing required. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 13:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Fairly obvious merge into Kanal D, though that article requires substantial attention. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 16:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per Sammi Brie. There is certainly not sourcing to support a standalone article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 18:16, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dokuzuncu Hariciye Koğuşu

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Tagged 6 years ago as unsourced. The source on the Turkish article might be good and I found https://ahmetandicenmtal.meb.k12.tr/meb_iys_dosyalar/06/22/256625/dosyalar/2022_12/30193320_Peyami-Safa-Dokuzuncu-Hariciye-Kogusu.pdf which is maybe the script? But 2 sources are not enough to show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 13:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: I think the source in the Turkish article supports WP:NF. The novel is much more notable than the film and covered in school curricula in Turkey. The film seems to be an adaptation of it with a cast consisting of top actors in Turkey. We need to check the archives to find more sources. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 16:12, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adding another source, a thesis comparatively analyzing the film and the novel. [2] TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 17:43, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: in light of the sources presented. A redirect and merge was absolutely warranted anyway, so, very opposed to deletion of this. (Note: AfD is not cleanup and 2 sources can sometimes be judged enough (and often are))) -Mushy Yank. 01:46, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I thought there was a guideline somewhere suggesting 3 sources minimum. Whenever I create a new article I always cite at least 3 sources Chidgk1 (talk) 06:37, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You have the essay WP:THREE and of course, the more the merrier, but I don’t think 3 is the threshold. -Mushy Yank. 11:24, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as per the reliable sources identified in this discussion including the one linked by the nominator and the thesis identified by The Joyful Tentmaker, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:03, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Dadı

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Tagged 6 years ago for lack of cites. As far as I can tell the cites on the Turkish article are just for stuff like what time it was on rather than whether it was a good show or successful Chidgk1 (talk) 13:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to List_of_foreign_adaptations_of_The_Nanny#Turkey: until better sources are added but AfD being for deletion not cleanup not opposed to Keep (notable cast, 3 seasons on major networks) -Mushy Yank. 10:24, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ziya Taner

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Tagged 7 years ago as unsourced. I checked a couple of the sources on the Turkish article but not sure they are enough - for example they don’t support the first sentence here saying he was born in Macedonia Chidgk1 (talk) 13:06, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment If I were to judge purely based on their managerial career – having managed Beşiktaş J.K., one of the three major Turkish football clubs and having led Ankaragücü to a Turkish Cup win – I'd say there's no doubt they are notable. Robby.is.on (talk) 13:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep per Robby, this guy is clearly notable, just needs improvement and offline, Turkish language sources. WP:COMMONSENSE needed. Giant Snowman 16:47, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes you would think with his career that good sources would exist somewhere. Perhaps native speakers of Turkish are not very interested in editing Wikipedia. I would not be surprised, as I find Turkish Wikipedia generally unfriendly and frustrating. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:41, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pir (Alevism)

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Tagged many years ago as unsourced this does not seem notable enough to need a separate article. No objection to merging but I don’t know which other article would be most suitable. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Araba 2004

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Does not meet WP:NSINGLE. Unreferenced. -Samoht27 (talk) 05:00, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep: Appears to satisfy WP:GNG as the music video was a subject of scholarly analysis by multiple authors: [3] [4]. I can't find anything beyond these two authors though. The two authors both appear in the first source, but I don't think it stops the sources from being independent of each other. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 09:04, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge with Mustafa Sandal or Mustafa Sandal discography: not convinced a separate article is necessary Rainydaywindows (talk) 07:06, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Development Agency (Turkey)

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I found the source in the Turkish article at https://www.sbb.gov.tr/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Kalkinma-Ajanslarinin-Turk-Hukuk-Sistemindeki-Yeri-Ahmet-Tamer.pdf but I think it needs someone more familiar with the subject to figure out whether this is notable. At least one agency still exists https://ankaraka.org.tr/en But are they just window-dressing for development policies which are now top-down? As the Ministry of Development (Turkey) no longer exists how do they work and who controls them? Chidgk1 (talk) 07:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Istanbul Professional League 1

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Tagged almost a decade ago as unsourced and article does not exist in Turkish so probably not notable Chidgk1 (talk) 07:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to History of Turkish football as possible search term. Giant Snowman 11:12, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Orduspor (women's basketball)

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Although the source on the Turkish article is good https://www.hurriyet.com.tr/sporarena/orduspor-oyunculari-sehri-terk-etti-40624285 there is only one so it is not enough to show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 07:21, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. No reason why sources wouldn't exist. [5] etc. Geschichte (talk) 11:55, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Played three seasons in the Turkish top-tier KBSL, one of the best professional women's basketball leagues in the world, making the playoffs twice. Competed twice in EuroCup Women. Cleaned up the article, added some sources. There is plenty more in the Turkish media for anyone interested in improving the article further. Alvaldi (talk) 13:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

İzmir–Nazilli Regional

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Tagged over a decade ago as unsourced. Cites on Turkish article are all primary sources and don’t show notability Chidgk1 (talk) 07:15, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Bolâhenk Nuri Bey

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Tagged over a decade ago as uncited and possibly not notable. Article does not exist in Turkish Chidgk1 (talk) 07:01, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Added a few sources. Mentioned in various reference books. Note: AfD is not cleanup, the absence of an article on other WPs is not a valid reason for deletion. When sources exist, it is expected nominators check them and mention them. It is not fair to expect others to do that work when you initiate multiple [14...] AfDs on the same topic at the same time. Thank you very much. -Mushy Yank. 01:42, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As the article says that he was a Turkish Ottoman composer I contend that the absence of an article on Turkish Wikipedia is indeed a valid reason to delete. Of course there might be overriding reasons to keep which people interested in classical music would know which I don’t. As the article was tagged so long ago as uncited they have had plenty of time to explain those reasons. Chidgk1 (talk) 14:47, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
These are reasons that might make one think that the subject may not be notable, but it is not enough for deletion itself. You still need to check sources yourself if you want to nominate a page for deletion. -Mushy Yank. 23:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Absolute keep. Covered by a large amount of sources: [6] Lack of sources in the article could be a reason to delete or redirect temporarily, but it's now not the case, so it's an easy keep. Aintabli (talk) 02:44, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fener Ada

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Hard to search as there is at least one other island with the same name. Tagged many years ago as uncited. The cite on the Turkish article is poor https://www.getamap.net/maps/turkey/izmir/_fener_adasi/ Chidgk1 (talk) 06:51, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Fails WP:NATFEAT. "Named natural features are often notable, provided information beyond statistics and coordinates is known to exist. [...] If a Wikipedia article cannot be developed using known sources, information on the feature can instead be included in a more general article on local geography. For example, a river island with no information available except name and location should probably be described in an article on the river". Do not redirect since there are multiple islets of the same name. Geschichte (talk) 11:59, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Diyarbakır Atatürk Stadium

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Tagged as uncited in 2009 and no longer exists. Is this a notable part of local history? Chidgk1 (talk) 06:38, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Diyarbakırspor as possible search term. Giant Snowman 11:10, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – Per GiantSnowman. Svartner (talk) 20:37, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

İAOSB Müdürlüğü (Tram İzmir)

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Appears to lack any significant coverage and fails WP:GNG. Note that train stations have no inherent notability (per WP:NTRAINSTATION) and I'm just not seeing anything beyond routine sources. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:36, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect T3 (Tram İzmir) as ATD. The creator made articles for every station and they cannot be WP:BLARED since there already has been a draftification attempt, so might be good to convert this to a batch nom? Jumpytoo Talk 06:13, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jumpytoo: I do intend to nominate the rest of the recent creations as a batch, but I prefer to test the waters first before doing a batch nom that could end up being a WP:TRAINWRECK. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:59, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Just curious, why can't they be redirected due to being draftified? - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 20:47, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
To clarify I meant BLARED without discussion, since the draftification was opposed they have to go through AfD Jumpytoo Talk 22:21, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still confused, since drafting isn't redirecting, I'm not seeing why "opposed draftification" means "cannot boldy redirect". - The Bushranger _{One ping only} 02:35, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If one opposed draftification, it would be reasonable to expect they would oppose a redirection too. Theres nothing that disallows a BLAR after draftification, but it usually will be fruitless since it would likely be reverted and youd have to AfD anyways Jumpytoo Talk 17:38, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to line, I did my best to find sources and did not find any independent sigcov of this station. Turkish Wikipedia's sources were not helpful. Support similarly redirecting other station articles to this line. Toadspike [Talk] 14:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

Thank you for your feedback. I understand the concerns about notability, but I believe that the articles on the stations are important and can be kept. The stations on the Izmir T3 tram line play a significant role in the city's public transportation infrastructure, and I am willing to support their notability with additional sources and content.

The Izmir T3 line is a vital part of the city's transportation network, and these stations are integral to that. There are independent sources, such as local news articles and reports about transportation, that cover these stations and their significance. I am happy to provide these sources to demonstrate that the stations are notable beyond routine sources.

To strengthen the articles and address the notability concerns, I propose:

Independent news sources: Adding citations from local newspapers, transportation reports, and public relations materials to highlight the stations' role in Izmir's transport system.
Their contribution to public transport: Emphasizing the importance of these stations in the context of the wider public transport network in Izmir.
Diverse sourcing: Supplementing the articles with a broader range of sources, such as independent studies or official reports, to give a clearer picture of their significance.

Given their role in the transportation system, I believe these stations do meet the notability guidelines. If there are any specific additional sources you would recommend, I am open to including them.

I also understand the concerns and am open to improving the articles further. I believe with the right additions, these articles can meet Wikipedia's standards for notability.

Thank you again for your input! Erdem Ozturk 2021 (talk) 19:17, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kemal Baysak (Tram İzmir)

Madame Coco

Soner Baskaya

Elifenur Karabulut

The Master (2009 film)

JOJO (Turkish children's channel)

Kanal D (International)

Dokuzuncu Hariciye Koğuşu

Dadı

Ziya Taner

Pir (Alevism)

Araba 2004

Development Agency (Turkey)

Istanbul Professional League 1

Orduspor (women's basketball)

İzmir–Nazilli Regional

Bolâhenk Nuri Bey

Fener Ada

Diyarbakır Atatürk Stadium

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