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More than six months have passed since the most recent deletion discussion of this article. The speedy keep close negates the possibility that consensus can change. If six months isn't long enough, then how long until the community can again discuss deletion of an explicitly racist self-referential article about a group of self-admitted trolls? Moreover, the assertion that no policy rationale was presented is incorrect: there was no refutation of the fact that the article does not improve the encyclopedia in any way and no refutation of the fact that the article harms the encyclopedia by bringing the project, editors, and Foundation officials into disrepute, risking funding and credibility. Therefore, the deletion rationale citing the WP:IAR policy was correct. Moreover, WP:DENY is an additional sufficient rationale which the extraordinarily speedy keep did not allow me to raise in reply to the assertion that the initial rationale was insufficient. That is the epitome of an out of process close. Selery (talk) 16:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
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Okay. Let me say the following. The MFD was only about the copy of the ban proposal and rebuttals to the !voters' comments. The content that got speedily deleted per G4 does not meet G4 for the following reasons:
(Would you mind signing my guestbook?) -Porch corpter (talk/contribs) 03:07, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
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Now sourced as having played in a fully professional league - see User talk:TerriersFan#Farri Agri. Undelete.TerriersFan (talk) 21:54, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
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This article was part of a mass nomination of city councilors nominated for deletion by a single user. All the articles were tagged with rescue and all have been kept but this one. It it my strongly held belief that since it took a while to find sources for each article this article was deleted prematurely. Also it was not taken into account that most delete votes were based on the stub state of the article before its massive overhaul. The result of the debate should clearly have been keep per the sources or per the "votes" it should have been no consensus. At the very least it should have been relisted for further comment. Do these reliable independent non-trivial references establish notability? If not, why not? Please cite guidelines or policies in your response. Because I believe this article does. And based on the fact that this is the city council of a major city of over 100,000 people in major media market (the San Francisco Bay Area) it would be very foreseeable that even more sources could be found, as they have been for every other member. This particular council routinely gets coverage outside of the area, even in Beaufort, New York, LA, and Havana. It's not your typical city council. I also think there was a strong failure of considering a merge to the article about the council itself as the council itself is considered irrefutably notable.LuciferWildCat (talk) 10:58, 25 December 2011 (UTC)
Many more sources found here.LuciferWildCat (talk) 03:41, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
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At good faith in Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2011 October 15, I requested a review on the results of the debate. This page, therefore, was redirected to "List of All My Children miscellaneous characters", which was already deleted due to copyright infringements. This page was deleted as a redirect, as well. It would be nice to have it re-creaeted as a redirect to List of All My Children characters rather than recover; the previous revisions must have violated copyrights.
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Posting on behalf of User:The Lion of Lannister who accidentally created this page His rationale... This page has been deleted because someone said the ICC is a sect which is not notable under wikipedia policy. However today the ICC is the biggest left communist organization internationally and pages of much smaller organizations exist as well as pages of certain sections of the ICC. It is indeed more notable than most similar political organizations, having been covered in a Daily Mail article: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1331892/Tuition-fee-militants-picket-school-gates.html. The article should be up again. Ron Ritzman (talk) 14:31, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
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Closed a few hours after its first relist, with four views, inc. nom, all divergent and all pre-relisting. Article history deleted.
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Newtonmas may be a term someone searches for, but rates only a paragraph under Isaac Newton. 84.61.131.15 (talk) 22:05, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
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The entry was no less notable than entries for other companies and products in the learning management system space. The entry had independent 3rd party references, indicating why the company was notable in the market, and contained no "sales speak." Medra42 (talk) 01:43, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
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This is a significant singer with +300K Twitter followers, 300K subscribers on his YouTube channel and 47MM video views, and sold out concerts in New York. If previous attempts to create an article were not successful, I am willing to scour media sources to find notable sources for this article. I am sorry if this posting is not formatted correctly - It is *very difficult* to post requests like this, why is the process so arcane? Keizers (talk) 21:42, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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The article was recently created by me, temporarily unaware that there was a Mifflin E. Bell article which M.E. Bell refers to. There are in fact a good number of references on the internet to "M.E. Bell" and valid-to-use sources, including at least two I had already added to the article. It was speedy-delete tagged by editor SarekOfVulcan, who has been dogging my edits towards finding any fault to trumpet. It would clearly have been better just to put a note on the article's talk page. Then editor Elen of the Roads deleted it, and has not responded to my request. Elen of the Roads is aware of running contention by SarekOfVulcan against me, and should not have been furthering SarekOfVulcan running up some damn score of works of mine that he has disrupted. And on the facts the article should not have been speedy-deleted; it does not meet the criteria, including that a redirect at a minimum is needed, and that the article content was not entirely duplicated in the Mifflin article. I ask for the article to be restored so that I may proceed with an orderly merge of material. Please restore the article with its edit history.doncram 18:12, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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A second-billed star in a now-renewed Disney show that had not aired when the AfD was started, is now clearly notable. Ridiculous that the inline links in the A.N.T. Farm article are direct to IMDb. I edited a recreation of the article and then discussed moving it to the correct title with one of the four deleting admins (from the 10 times it's been recreated), but then another admin ignored our discussion and G4'd it. Like I mentioned on his page - maybe if we weren't so gung ho in deleting articles on items that young females are interested in, we might have a chance in addressing the gender bias gap that exists here. The-Pope (talk) 16:22, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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Accidentally deleted without moving to Wikimedia Commons. The file isn't copyrighted under the Russian copyright law. It was nominated by an anonymous visitor with the reason: "Target for moving the free file to Commons." Chtak Yuno (talk) 03:04, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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Dear Administrator: I added two sections to the KILLARNEY article under the subheadings History of the Land and History of Tourism in Killarney. The first, I believe, is a very readable human story and concerns the lands which later became the Muckross National Park. The second gives the history of tourism, with a fleeting overview of the history of all tourism, but naming how things were in Killarney in 1846 and 1854. This would be of interest to anyone. It is noted by some editor that the Tourism section is outdated and someone else has said it seems (in Wikipedia) to be a town without a history. I agree that the entire article is parochial in layout and content. People opening up a page on Killarney want to be told substantial history and not of people and events of a purely local nature. I first uploaded just a little on the hotels in Killarney and the single one on the Ring of Kerry. DMOL deleted it and said the hotels on the ring had no relevance. This time in carefully researched sections I showed the relevance, so DMOL deleted both sections. My research is referenced in no less than seven books, four of which predate 1900. If you can spare the time to read those sections in the entry of early December 18th I guarantee you will not be bored or disappointed. I shall be very grateful if you can revert DMOL's deletions permanently if you consider the case justified. Many thanks and Kindest regards. yours faithfully Kemiah12:02, 18 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kemiah (talk • contribs)
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Follows all wikipedia guidelines and the modertor is using his subjective opinion to not post the page. The article is proven notable by a reliable news source "autoblog.com" although "blog" is used in their domain name, autoblog is an independent news source owned bu huffington post. It receives 2 million unique views per month and is compiled by many editors and writers and from many sources. The closer noted that the source in the autoblog article is gearheaddeals.com website. this is not the rtue source as there is none of that content posted anywhere on gearheaddeals.com. The article was solely created by one of autoblog's writers. They were just linking to the gearheaddeals site for reference. There are other independent news sources I listed as well. The draft can be seen in my drafts area. I am new to writing WP articles so I am not sure how to link you there. Thank you.Bmwm3guy (talk) 20:41, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
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Closer disregarded GNG policies on notability for new article creation (WP:NNC), instead applied the different policy on notability for content(NPOV) on this new article. Closer acknowledge that a subject could be notable on a single source for article creation purposes. But disregarded that policy anyway perhaps due to closer's own bias of game itself or its article creator. Closer also disregarded consensus analysis below that didn't include substantial policy explanation. Instead, closer only counted votes! The analysis of the votes during this deletion discussion was sent to his attention, but disregarded that too. The issue on the article is subject notability. Per WP:GNG guidelines a notable subject must have at least one notable, reliable and verifiable source for it to be CREATED in WP. WP:NNC Notability guidelines for content WP:WHYN does not apply for article creation as that criteria applies only to CONTENT NPOV on an already existing articles. Because the subject has at least one notable source, WP:NNC requires it to be created and included in WP. Please restore deleted article and replace that old article with a newly modified article that is now in User:GalingPinas/Circball. Article also has been modified from its original content and the Closer acknowledge that current modified version is much "improved" and much "clearer". Here is the analysis of the votes during the deletion discussion:
Even though the number of Deletes outweight the number of Keeps, policy on consensus requires substantive explanation which was lacking on the delete votes and was disregarded by Closer. Again, the issue here is the subject's notability -- has the subject been notable outside of WP? Does the source follow the guidelines of WP:GNG specifically WP:NNC? IF A NOTABLE SOURCE EXIST, SUBJECT IS NOTABLE, EVEN AS A MERE STUB OR A SUB-ARTICLE OF A MAIN ARTICLE GalingPinas (talk) 20:00, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
"Source#1=GMANews "Saksi":
Source#2=Q-TV & GMA's Children Show "Tropang Potchi":
Source#3=UNTV Sports37's Letter of Intent:
These sources and others establish the notability of Circball per WP:GNG and must be included in WP either as a standalone article or merge with similar articles that discusses basketball related topics, in particular, variations of basketball.GalingPinas (talk) 08:10, 27 November 2011 (UTC)" Please apply the WP:NNC as the proper guideline to article creation for Circball. Once Circball is created, any Editor can flag for any issues they want to flag, Be it V, NPOV, etc. But for purposes of this discussions, the analysed sources above merits article creation per WP:NNC.GalingPinas (talk) 23:27, 17 December 2011 (UTC) |
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Disputing the decision to keep and appeal for an Overturn to delete and salt. I believe the closing admin judged consensus and policy inappropriately in this debate. The rationael given for keeping was "spam issues are important but not by themselves a reason for deletion". However, asside from having "6" previous spam/COI deletions (a clear need to "Salt"), Consensus for "deletion" was quite clear in this case, as was the consensus in the articles first AFD, based on the subjects lack of Notability. While many links exist, a closer look at each these links, reveals they fail as reliable sources (as was consensus agreed) seem to be nothing more than a collection of press releases, blogs, partner sites, self published material and mere trivial installation coverage and incidental mentions. One example; ZDNet Blogger (Dan Kusnetzky) explains explicitly in his BLOG that a "representative of StarWind Software reached out to me... "[12] as a "marketing message "[13], Pure marketing, not independent of the subject nor it is it a review. Sites like it-bezpeka.org.ua, techrepublic.com, links are simply inclusions in various blogged lists of related products and is considered "trivial coverage per WP:CORPDEPTH. As are anandtech.com (only mention is in the blogs "comments"), windowsservercatalog.com and citrix.com (written by Starwind Software). The books cited were converted to ISBN numbers to hide the fact they were origionaly Amazon.com links to mere incidental installation notes failing to support inclusion. venturedeal.com is simply a routine announcement and the Intel link (on page 8) is literaly a footnote. Hu12 (talk) 15:55, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Microsoft and Intel used StarWind software to build a test system push 1 million IOPS thru it. So it was StarWind running inside to make it happen. In such a case small footnote "yes, we've used THAT product" costs quite a lot. Do you understand what I mean? I'll be adding StarWind + Mellanox test so please provide feedback here as it's another performance benchmark. Please bother to read ALL pages of anandtech.com - it's three iSCSI products put face-to-face it was not "comments" which brought attention. If you provide samples please bother to at least view ALL the pages and not stop at the first one. Thank you! Yes, I've used originally amazon links as I did not know I need to put ISBNs. Is this a crime or what? Yworo fixed everything and I'll be adding another books with citations quite soon (working on it hard). Not sure about venturedeal.com but I can remove it just to make you happy. NINTENDUDE64 did brilliant work to describe ZDnet issue once again. I appreciate his work! APS (Full Auto) (talk) 21:56, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
OK, I've did enormous work (thanks to Yworo for couraging and building book templates) to include virtually everything I've been able to Google about this company. Could take next step and Google about Rocket Division Software (as they seems to exist under this name since 2003 and before 2008 or 2009 - quite a time for software company BTW as they come and go - 8 years). You're welcomed to add what you think I've missed and remove what you think is a junk. I do agree with Msnicki however product itself still seems to be more remarkable then the company. But most of the companies are one-product only ;) Thanks to everybody, hope to turn back to gun articles finally :) APS (Full Auto) (talk) 02:10, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
You're right. But did you actually bother yourself to read product section of the article? Did you read about first AoE initiator? First FCoE initiator? World currently fastest software iSCSI target (record being broken TWICE)? Storage hypervisor thing (there's only one company I've mentioned before DataCore doing storage hypervisor Windows thing). Everything with the links. Breaking records is what exactly you think making something "encyclopedic" (BTW, I don't share your point of view here). APS (Full Auto) (talk) 17:10, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
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On November 19th, the Disciples Football page was deleted under the grounds of being a G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement violator. This article cited its sources, utilized paraphrase, NOT direct quotation, and provided valuable information. If using other websites as sources and paraphrasing is a G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement violation, than nearly every page on Wikipedia should be deleted to conform to its policies. Although the Disciples page did at one point contain some copyright infringement content, this content was afterwards properly cited, paraphrased, or entirely removed. Yet the page was still deleted. Republic of Unclaimed Land (talk) 14:07, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
I contest any assertion that I performed a copyright violation of the material on that webpage. That page contains factual information that I paraphrased. Facts cannot be copyrighted. Honestly, I don't understand. The article WAS corrected to remove copyright violation. If you look at the text of the last version of the article, you will find that it DOES NOT plagiarize. Republic of Unclaimed Land (talk) 00:47, 17 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Republic of Unclaimed Land (talk • contribs) 00:45, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
Can I be provided with a copy of the article? I don't understand how someone can write a brief description drawing from a brief description as the source of facts, without the two paragraphs sounding similar. By ruling this copyright infringement, it means that the article is plagiarism merely because it states facts stated on another website. Everything but the actual statement of each fact was reworded. Nothing more could be done - which does not make the content unimportant or unworthy of an article. The only way I can see to make the facts be presented in a more "original" manner would be to bury them in unnecessary fluff, or to place all of the information in quotes. And if such action in required, than have it performed instead of tossing the information aside entirely. I think that this article should be reinstated, and then a new deletion discussion started to discuss whether the article is of sufficient importance. Republic of Unclaimed Land (talk) 21:57, 17 December 2011 (UTC) I would also like to state that If memory serves correctly, TWO websites were cited. The assertion that the page was simply a copy of the maxpreps page would then be false. Also, the fact that the Disciples were the tenth ranked homeschool team in the nation makes them notable, as does the fact that there quarterback finished the season first in the nation for total yardage for homeschool teams, a fact which was never put in the article because the page was deleted too soon.Republic of Unclaimed Land (talk) 22:17, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
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Deletion in May 2011 was for lack of general notability, or even (improperly) WP:ONEEVENT. However, I'm now redlinking the organization from Online Protection and Enforcement of Digital Trade Act, which uses references to it from the past few days in the New York Times and CNet.[20][21] SOPA, a matter of considerable interest to Wikipedia, should also link to it. I contacted User:Cirt, who closed the deletion, but is not currently an administrator, hoping he might have a delegate for such matters, but he didn't recommend anyone specifically, so I've posted this here. I understand that I may need to add a few of these references to the undeleted article to establish its notability against future deletion attempts. Wnt (talk) 23:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC) Wnt (talk) 23:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
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Was never placed on IFD, but admins refuse to undelete it at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. It is a free, encyclopedic image of my own work that I uploaded that contrary to the deleting admin (who didn't look at the image closely enough), it was not a duplicate of a Commons image. John Riemann Soong (talk) 03:08, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
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I would like to request a review of my deletion of the above file under WP:NFCC#1. The subject of the photo is still alive, but actively avoids public appearances, raising questions as to whether a freely licensed photo of him could be created. FASTILY (TALK) 21:46, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
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This professional videogame player is extremely notable. Has been mentioned by the BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6275868.stm and many other mainstream sources multiple times, has had games broadcast on satellite international tv, has won over $140,000 in prize money and has been at the highest level in the game for almost a decade. The fact that he's professional OR that he's at the very highest level by themselves would be enough according to Wikipedia:Notability (sports)#Generally acceptable standards and Wikipedia:Notability alone would be enough to qualify for notability. If you do a search for "Cooller" on youtube you will find countless videos of him. Intel and id software both hosted events he's won many thousands at. Many other professional videogame players have pages. Here is what an outdated version of the page looked like: http://www.enotes.com/topic/Anton_Singov. All other highly successful professional players such as Shane Hendrixson get Wikipedia pages. Please restore. I was unable or advised not to contact the admin to discuss this when I tried to because he himself is under administrator review! He has apparently been deleting tons of notable pages for little or no reason. Wikipedia:Administrator review/King of Hearts#2011 And if you look at his talk page you see he is under administrator review: User talk:King of Hearts , and look at all the complaints, it's ridiculous. Anonywiki (talk) 04:27, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
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Page was useful to sort out the different versions of drinking, card, and fisticuffs games people play called 'Bloody Knuckles.' I believe it was a useful page with a diversity of contributors and I suspect speedy deleting was erroneous. Thinker jones (talk) 22:30, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
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This file was deleted with the ill-founded cause "non-free content criterion #1".
There's no free version available.
1. It cannot be created without official data. 2. It cannot be easily created with official data. 3. Even if a similar free version has been created, it might then infringe the copyrights the paper's authors own.
There's no free material transformed.
There's no such material.
No, it also provides some additional information . Thanks, visuall 06:08, 12 December 2011 (UTC) The images such as File:CNGS layout.jpg, File:CNGS_layout_(OPERA_experiment).jpg, File:OPERA experiment.png, File:Cern-light-mes.jpg and File:OperaCNGSTiming.jpg on commons wiki don't have a valid license, but on enwiki, some of them are still deleted with this ill-founded cause. Thanks, visuall 06:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi, the official data is not open to anyone, so it's not possible to recreate the image with such data, unless to plagiarize the original copyrighted image. Thanks, visuall 08:00, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi, in fact the chief author of the paper v1 has authorized to use such images, but the OTRS doesn't accept ... - "20:25, 21 October 2011 Adrignola (talk | contribs) deleted "File:CNGS layout.jpg" (OTRS: Unaccepted or insufficient permission for use on Commons: 2011100210007217)"
"Hi Túrelio, I’ve forwarded the author's reply.
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Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:37 To: visuall Subject: Re: Copyright question about paper "Measurement of the neutrino velocity with the OPERA detector in the CNGS beam"
Thanks, Antonio
Fundamental Physics Laboratory for High Energy Physics University of Bern Sidlerstrasse, 5 CH-3012 Bern
FAX: +41 31 6314487 Secretariat: +41 31 6314064
Hi Antonio,
Paper id: 1109.4897 (PDF) URL: http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.4897 (Summary page)
visuall"
"Hi Antonio,
1. GNU Free Documentation License - Written by the Free Software Foundation. People are required to attribute the work to you, and if they make changes or incorporate your work in their work, they are required to share their changes or work under the same license. 2. Creative Commons: Attribution-ShareAlike - This license permits free use, including commercial use; requires that you be attributed as the creator; and requires that any derivative creator or redistributor of your work use the same license. The desired attribution text should be included as a parameter in the template. 3. Attribution - The copyright holder allows anyone to use it for any purpose, provided that the copyright holder is properly attributed. 4. Public domain - The creator permanently relinquishes all rights to the work, anyone could use it for any purpose, or modify and redistribute it as a part of their own work with any license.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Copyright_tags
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Original Message----- From: Permissions - Wikimedia Commons Sent: Friday, October 14, 2011 23:42 To: visuall Subject: Re: [Ticket#2011100210007217] Copyright question about paper "Measurement of the neutrino velocity with the OPERA detector in the [...]
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This file was deleted with the ill-founded cause "Recreation of deleted material. - non-free content criterion #1" (Please see File:CNGS layout.jpg).
1. It cannot be created without official data. 2. It cannot be easily created with official data. 3. Even if a similar free version has been created, it might then infringe the copyrights the paper's authors own.
There's no free material transformed.
There's no such material.
No, it cannot be replaced with any image as of this time.
No, it also provides some additional information . Thanks, visuall 06:08, 12 December 2011 (UTC) The images such as File:CNGS layout.jpg, File:CNGS_layout_(OPERA_experiment).jpg, File:OPERA experiment.png, File:Cern-light-mes.jpg and File:OperaCNGSTiming.jpg on commons wiki don't have a valid license, but on enwiki, some of them are still deleted with this ill-founded cause. Thanks, visuall 06:49, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
Hi, the official data is not open to anyone, so it's not possible to recreate the image with such data, unless to plagiarize the original copyrighted image. Thanks, visuall 08:01, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
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After a lengthy and fairly involved debate (with two delete !votes, and three keeps including a strong keep), the discussion was closed without any commentary or rationale at all, just "The result of the discussion was: Delete." I think that in closing any contentious discussion, especially when the final decision goes against the majority of what was said, some rationale is in order. So I dropped a note on the closing editor's talk page, asking them to provide such a rationale. The answer I received was that "the keep !votes [...] largely consisted of WP:ILIKEIT." I suspect that the editor concerned hasn't read WP:ILIKEIT recently, as (whatever the merits or otherwise of the image) it's clear that none of the keep !votes were even close to being premised on liking either Chávez or the image. As such, this decision should be overturned. jbmurray (talk • contribs) 09:14, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
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The field of Evolutionary Biology and the concept of Evolution are rather different concepts. The page was deleted after a brief discussion on the talk page, without AFD, and made into a redirect to evolution. I think a more in dept discussion of the deletion is in place. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 00:34, 8 December 2011 (UTC) changed capitalization to the correct article.Hobit (talk) 00:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
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An incorrect use of WP:CSD#R3, in my opinion. The redirect had been in place for two months, so it is not "recently created" and (more importantly), it is not implausible – it redirected to Dub, King of Scotland,
Rich Farmbrough, 15:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC).
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The "redirect" closure is procedurally incorrect because it is not based on a consensus. The reason for this is that only three people contributed to the discussion. They each held different opinions: "delete" (the nominator, implicitly); "keep"; or "merge and redirect", all based on prima facie reasonable arguments. But nobody supported a redirect without merging, which is the solution implemented by the closer. I recommend that the discussion is either relisted or closed as "no consensus". Sandstein 00:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
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Well, the XfD had no Delete votes (not even the nominator, as it was a procedural listing). This was following an earlier DRV here with unanimous support for relisting, following an earlier XfD here also with no Delete votes. The XfD was closed as Delete anyway; it's not 100% clear, but I think this was due to the image being orphaned. (Closing admin is on wikibreak and not available to respond.)
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The previous article was deleted because the information was regarding an online game that was generally agreed upon to be less significant than "Court of the Dragon Emperor." The result was that the previous page was deleted and instead made into a redirect for The History of China. I was one who contributed a great deal of time and effort onto this wiki page (the Dragon Court regarding the online game), but I do understand and agree why the page is used as a redirect instead. The admin who deleted the page and made it a redirect instead is on a "wikibreak" and his page says to contact another admin, instead. I would like for the page history be e-mailed to me so that I can repost the content that I worked on for that page on a more appropriate wiki page (specifically, http://dragoncourt.wikispaces.com/). I appreciate an admin taking the time to review this, and I would greatly appreciate it if the former content of this page could be provided to me so that it can be reused. Thanks! Divine Auror (talk) 22:07, 4 December 2011 (UTC) |
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Result was redirect because no proof had been found that this was a Blue Ribbon school. However, it was honored in 1992-93 (as Kennedy Junior High School). I'd like to bring this back to review because this proof has been found. Raymie (t • c) 01:59, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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I'd like to request a formal review of my closure of Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2011_November_24#File:OccupyUCD3.jpg. I'm not certain if I judged consensus and policy appropriately in this debate. Thanks, FASTILY (TALK) 01:20, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
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This is a user page image which was uploaded by Centpacrr (talk · contribs) in 2010. This image depicts the user, but like many pictures of users was taken by a third party holding the user's camera. The image was listed at WP:PUF by Crisco 1492 (talk · contribs), who was concerned by the presence of a watermark. Centpacrr provided an explanation for the watermark and uploaded a clean version without it. There was no further discussion, and the image was then deleted by Fastily (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA).
Centpacrr asked Fastily to undelete the image, and he declined to do so. When pressed for an explanation, he delivered what I think is a remarkable justification for a closing administrator:
If Fastily is correct, then we should probably have a fire sale of Wikipedia user pictures. I'm unfamiliar with our policies having been applied in this way previously, and it feels punitive. Fastily apparently has an antagonistic relationship with Centpacrr and so certainly should not have involved himself. Witness this exchange with Baseball Bugs (talk · contribs) at User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#Copyrights, etc:
Centpacrr had brought up the very real point that SchuminWeb (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA), another administrator he has clashed with, has numerous pictures of himself on commons which were clearly taken by a different user. SchuminWeb states on one that it's "Own work (my camera, taken for me, so close enough)." I welcome everyone to draw their own conclusions, but SchuminWeb is very active in images and I must assume he knows what he's talking about. This exchange makes it quite clear to me that Centpacrr was being singled out and punished for getting under the skin of an administrator. We have to be better than that. There are long discussions at User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#Four improperly deleted free image files and User_talk:Fastily/Archive_5#Question re licensing of pictures of myself for those who want more context. I'm not concerned about the other three images under discussion, and I'm not about to defend Centpacrr's overheated rhetoric. I think, however, that it's wrong to use bureaucracy as a weapon, and punishment isn't a rationale for deletion. I don't think an objective administrator would have deleted this image, and whatever Centpacrr's track record on railroad-related images I think it very doubtful that he's lying about an image depicting himself, and no one has produced any evidence that this image is anything other than what Centpacrr says it is. Mackensen (talk) 15:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
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It is with the most absolute urgency that I request this decision (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Rhys_Morgan) is overturned. It is very obvious from the KEEP votes (all capitalised in the early stages, you noticed) have been encouraged by way of advertising or herding. There are many obvious "one topic" editors who are there for the sake of registering a vote, even though !votes are not counted in this way. I notice that editors use language which is clearly non-Wikipedia discourse, an obvious sign of people compelled to register for reasons counter to policy. It is very obvious that the article Rhys Morgan breaks rules on RECENTISM, on NOTNEWS, on BLOGS, in addition to basic notability guidelines. This character, if he exists at all, is notable for one news event, and Wikipedia clearly states that one event does not equal notability. I would request an urgent and thorough review of this deletion process as a matter of urgency. doktorb wordsdeeds 01:02, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
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Closing admin said merge but there is a dispute at Talk:Climate change alarmism#Inappropriate merge tag removed. so would like a review whether this decision should really have been to just keep instead. Dmcq (talk) 19:03, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Endorse close - Editors claiming that it was prematurely closed don't understand deletion procedure: It ran the standard length. (actually, a bit longer). The other claims - that it's supposedly not a POV-fork, etc - are simply trying to reopen the discussion they failed to win at AfD, without providing new evidence. Global warming controversy may be long, but climate change alarmism is pretty awful, and highly redundant to other articles so there's only a small amount of content that's worth considering keeping, if that. 86.** IP (talk) 22:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)86.** IP (talk) 22:50, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Tally of actual votes at Afd Here are the actual !votes from the Afd, sorted. (I removed one comment, and one "keep" from a suspected sock, made minor topographical changes.) Twelve definite "keeps", and only seven "merge" or "delete or merge". It was a MISSTATEMENT OF FACT to declare "merge" as the "winner", let alone the consensus, per the closing statement. Even counting the "delete" and "merge" votes TOGETHER -- twelve. "Keep" would win on a plurality, but even if all the "non-keep" votes are lumped together it is a split vote. The closing statement was wrong, and the closure was abuse of process. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:20, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
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He has received coverage outside of his original remarks on tv.
The continued coverage may be sufficient enough to pass WP:BIO. Smallman12q (talk) 17:07, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
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The admin that closed th afd mistakenly thought that Wikipedia:R3 didn't apply to the article. This I believe is definetely an implausible typo as did 7 of the 11 other users who participated in this afd. It was a duplicate article and is clearly is an implausible redirect. Fact is that the search engine that Wikipedia will show the correct article. By the time a user types in "2011–12 Hannover 96", it will show the correct article. In fact, as I typed "2011–12 Han" in Wikipedia's search engine, it showed the correct article and didn't show the redirect. Kingjeff (talk) 23:18, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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This is a historic image in both senses outlined by WP:HISTORIC. It documents a historic event: Hugo Chávez's appearance on TV at the end of the failed 1992 coup attempt. But it is also an image that has iconic resonance in itself. It is the moment at which Chávez burst onto public consciousness: he is here seen giving the brief speech in which he said his efforts to transform the Venezuelan state were halted "for now" ("por ahora"). This phrase subsequently resonated in Venezuelan politics, and to some extent the country is still living with its consequences. This image is every bit as iconic as (say) the image of Chamberlain's coming down from the plane to announce "peace in our time." The argument used by damiens.rtf against the image is extraordinarily misleading. Moreover, the discussion's close is strange: three very brief "delete" votes (one of which was simply "per nom," the other of which was the--simply incorrect--"just a generic guy at a mic"), versus two much more passionately and lengthily argued "keep" votes. I think that the close was a mistake. jbmurray (talk • contribs) 08:44, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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The article was deleted by user Andyjsmith because, as he said "The material is fully covered elsewhere in wikipedia. I'm not convinced that there is such a thing as "driving etiquette" but if you think there is and you can prove it from reliable sourced then you should look at adding it to an existing article such as Traffic." My counter argument was "I do feel that your rash deletion was unjustified. You do have a point [in that the info might be covered elsewhere on Wikipedia], but there is no mention of driving etiquette in the article Traffic, and although it was a quick stub that I wrote in a little while, I do think that the subject has a lot of potential and a lot of importance in it's own right" and "Driving etiquette at Google Books ([57])- the first source specifically. It seems like a well-documented concept. Also I think if it were an article, it would be a very useful article. I would imagine many people would find it useful to find a concise article on tdriving etiquette without having to fish out the info from various other parts of the internet". I don't mean to be (i can't remember the Wiki-term for it...) continually pushing the same view forward in the hopes that it will pass in a different forum. I do feel like I have been short-changed and would like a second opinion. -Coin945 (talk) 09:40, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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