Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 July 16

Muhammad Agung Pribadi – Recreation allowed. At least, nobody seems to object, so go ahead, I suppose. – Sandstein 21:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived debate of the deletion review of the page above. Please do not modify it.

He is now playing with Persib Bandung in the highest professional league in Indonesia the Indonesia Super League. He have already played competitively since 2010 and also for several matches this year. Here are some sources 1 2 3 (mostly in Indonesian). MbahGondrong (talk) 17:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Consider spinning out an article of merged bios on the team from Persib_Bandung#2013_Squad. The whole team look like bio-stubs failing WP:BIO1E. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:52, 17 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
temporarily restored for discussion at Deletion Review DGG ( talk ) 02:21, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I don't see how BLP1E is compatible or relevant with the guidelines for athletes, since playing in one game at the highest level is notability DGG ( talk ) 02:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see any reliable sources that differentiate this player from any other player on the team. Playing on a top level team is creates a presumption of notability, not notability per se. DRV should not prevent recreation here, we want to cover these players, but without any biographical content, I recommend merging the whole team together. I think this would better serve the readers. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 02:39, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It might serve the readers better if we had a policy of combining small articles, but we don't. The presumption that playing one game is enough for notability is the basis of our sports coverage. The idea that on has to be not just a player at the highest level, but a stand-out player at the highest level,is unsupported by anything it WP, and , of course, would remove 90% of our sports coverage. If you like the idea, propose it somewhere. (As far as I personally am concerned, WP would be just as useful to me if it had no sports coverage at all, but I don't try to fit WP into my private ideas of what would be helpful) 'DGG (at NYPL) (talk) 17:54, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If these are only reasons you can find for not making an article, then I
support recreation — Preceding unsigned comment added by DGG (NYPL) (talk • contribs)

I agree, Support recreation. I see User:MbahGondrong is doing productive work here. I suggest consideration of merging, a suggestion for User:MbahGondrong to take or leave. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the contributions, of course I support recreation and regarding SmokeyJoe suggestion, it would be a bit hard since it will apply to a lot more of player/club articles and not only in Persib. DGG idea sounds good, to make a discussion about it in another place.
Just curious should be done next, is it needed to wait for more participants in this DRV or the article can be recreated already? Sorry, I am kinda new to this DRV stuff. ;) MbahGondrong (talk) 22:39, 19 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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