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Please post below any comments, suggestions, and requests you might have for me. You may use English, Icelandic, Danish, Swedish, Norwegian, French, or German.

Chinese Punctuation Marks

I reverted one of your edit recently. Apparently, you don't know the proper usage of Chinese punctuation marks. First off, Chinese punctuation marks are relatively modern invention. Many ancient text did not have them. Publishers added them as annotation marks. So strictly speaking, the marks in most ancient quotes are not from the original text anyway. The 、 mark that you added is not a comma. The UNICODE name for the character is a misnomer. This mark is used like the : or ; in the English language. Some examples of usage follows (imagine the following text are written in Chinese and also note the proper use of comma in Chinese):

A list consists of：
1、item one
2、item two
3、item three

For Mother's day presents，I bought a diamond ring、a jet plane、a thirty room mansion。

I bought a diamond ring for her；she bought a car for me。

Please also note that hexadecimal entity does not work in older browsers. For compatibility reasons, it would be better to use the decimal value instead, e.g. #12289 is safer than #x3001.

Hope this clear it up for you. Kowloonese 20:20, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Cyrillic letters

I don't think you should move the Cyrillic letters to their Unicode titles. There's too much possibility of confusion, the cyrillic Ve looks very much like the Latin B. Of course the Cyrillic letter title should exist as a redirect to Ve (Cyrillic). -- Curps 20:34, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I guess it might be a bit confusing because of the number of letters that have exactly the same form as some Latin letters... maybe it's best kept as it was after all. -- Krun 20:42, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Changing &# entities to accented letters

Hi, I noticed you're doing edits to change &# to accented letters, for instance this edit to Zdob şi Zdub.

It is not clear if such change is safe. the &# is encoding neutral and will appear correctly when the pages are presented in any encoding, but sometimes the accented letters can be encoding sensitive and they turn into gibblish whent he user pick a wrong encoding in the web broswers. If all wiki pages are done in Unicode, then either way would be safe. Kowloonese 01:00, 1 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good idea to get rid of these, but it's very tedious and error-prone to do so manually. I've recently written a bot that does this in an automated way, see User:Curpsbot-unicodify and Special:Contributions/Curpsbot-unicodify. Right now I'm running it on articles about Polish topics, but will soon run it on other eastern European categories as well. -- Curps 04:19, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting comments on template alteration

Hello. I see you are using one or more of the User instruments templates in your Babel box. Inspired by some recent developments, I want to rework all the templates in there (including ones used on user pages), to make them more like the regular Babel templates. However, I thought I should hear from the people this would affect before actually doing it. Please weigh in at User:Ddawson/User instruments.

Your recent contributions

I see you've gone ahead and started working on the User instruments templates. I think most of them are okay (good catch boldfacing the skill words, instruments, etc., for instance). There are a couple of them that I disagree with, however.

You changed the link on 'professional' in {{User instrument subcategory/4}} to link to the subcategory. However, there is a reason I linked it to the article professional; I would link the words in the other three templates to articles, if I knew what to link to (novice is inappropriate, for instance). {{User instrument/1}} is a redirect to {{User instrument subcategory/1}} and on through 3 (but not 4) because I realized after making the subcategory/n templates that I could reuse them; if in the future appropriate articles are found for 'novice', 'intermediate', and 'advanced', it will be necessary to un-redirect the user-page templates. But perhaps you feel 'professional' shouldn't be linked that way?
You reverted my removal of 'the' from {{User instrument category}}. It's probably not apparent to you (it wasn't to me initially), but there is a slight problem if someone wants to use a mass noun (such as 'percussion'); in that case, putting 'the' before it is awkward ("These users play the percussion..." See?). In fact, someone does want 'percussion'. On the other hand, I don't think leaving it out makes the phrase awkward, so it's best to leave it out.

Ddawson 06:43, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You replied:

I totally disagree with your first point. Linking the levels with the level-specific subcategories conforms with the standard used for user language templates (e.g. {{User en-4}}). There should be at least this much uniformity in the various Babel templates. It is also much more useful for other Wikipedians to get a direct link to the relevant category in order to see which other users play the instrument at this level, rather than being told what a professional is (most users are familiar with the word's definition and would, I believe, rather have information that is more relevant and specific to the skills of the user in question).

Actually, I agree with what you're saying. But you seem to be confused about the difference between {{User instrument}} and {{User instrument subcategory}}: the former creates the box on a user page and thus definitely should link back to the subcategory page; the latter, however, makes the box on the subcategory page, in which there is no need for a link to the subcategory page (a self-link). Nor is an extra link to the main category needed, as the category tag serves that purpose.

I may have caused some confusion by putting subcategory links on the /1, /2, and /3 templates; that was merely so I could reuse them as the {{User instrument}} helpers, as there are already a lot of templates. As I said, {{User instrument/4}} is the one that doesn't redirect, because of the link to professional in {{User instrument subcategory/4}}. In other words, the only possible problem is that perhaps there should be no link to professional anywhere, but I don't see any harm in it.

When it comes to the definite article in the instrument categories, I do find sentences like "These users play clarinet" much less natural than "These users play the clarinet". In special cases like percussion, one could simply use the raw code for the little green box at the top of the category and subsequently add CategoryTOC below, as there won't be many such cases. (In fact, that of percussion may be the only one.)

Hmm. Well, personally I tend to use either form. But I suppose you have a point. Very well, I will leave the 'the' in.

And thanks for your assistance in converting categories. Ddawson 05:03, 8 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Chu shogi

Hi Krun,

About the piece names you changed. One (hakku) was a typo, but the rest follow Japanese Wikipedia. 反車 hensha <--> hansha confuses me, because I can't find hen as a possible pronunciaion of 反 (I only find han and hon), but hensha has its own article and is the only pronunciation given. 奔王 honnou and 龍馬 ryuume are specifically given as alternates to hon'ou and ryuuma, and seem to be the more common variants. kwami 02:20, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just to make things clear: The Japanese Wikipedia does not show the names in rōmaji, only in hiragana. The free king's (奔王) name is given as ほんおう, for example. Proper rōmaji are meant to be able to be transliterated perfectly into hiragana or katakana, and the apostrophe is simply used (officially, I might add) to avoid confusion between post-syllabic n and syllable-initial n. Therefore the name should be written hon'ō, because the first syllable is "hon" (ほん) and the second is "ō" (おう), and not honnō, because this spelling leads one to think that the syllables are "hon" and "nou" (making the hiragana ほんのう, which is incorrect).

The piece is either ほんのう or ほんおう on the Japanese chu shogi page. Because ほんのう is irregular, I figured it must be the colloquial term. Presumably people who don't know the pronunciation in shogi circles would pronounce it regularly as ほんおう.

In the case of hansha/hensha (反車), "han" and "hon" are the only possible readings I get for the first character from my kanji dictionary, and here the piece is called hansha. I can only assume that the name is spelt incorrectly at the Japanese Wikipedia, which is of course no more infallible than the English version is.

If they spelled 反車 wrong, they did it both on the 反車 article - and several times at that - and on the chu shogi page. Somehow I doubt that's a typo. As for the English source, that isn't very reliable either.

The dragon horse (龍馬) is given as either りゅうま (ryūma) or りゅうめ (ryūme) at the Japanese Wikipedia, but ryūma is listed before the other, and since 馬 normally only has the readings ba, ma, and uma, I think it is better to put ryūma down here. If we had a separate article for each shogi piece, we could put the variant pronunciation ryūme in the page for dragon horse along with the other. --Krun 14:43, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

りゅうま is an irregular pronunciation. Given that irregular pronunciations are likely to be in common usage (otherwise people would just use the regular form), maybe you're right, and we should go with that - but to be consistant, only if we go with irregular hensha and honnou as well. りゅうめ is the expected pronunciation for that piece (め is the go on reading of 馬), which is probably why it's included. kwami 21:52, 8 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

SVG images

Has the policy on vector vs. bitmap images been changed? My understanding was that SVG are stored for archival purposes but converted to PNG for use in articles due to lack of broad support in browsers. — Saxifrage | ☎ 23:28, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

When an svg-image is used in an article, the Wikimedia servers convert it to png automatically, and it is displayed as such at the user end. No technical problems there. Krun 23:34, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, that makes sense. Does that not put too much load on the servers? — Saxifrage | ☎ 23:55, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Shouldn't cause too much workload; most flags, diagrams, etc., are easy to process. Besides, in future, when most people have a browser with good svg-support, it'll be much nicer for print. We should, of course, pave the way for new and better technology as much as we can :) – Krun 14:17, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Þórir Jökull Steinfinnsson

There's been a response on him. You can delete this post if you wish.--T. Anthony 12:31, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Jesus

Check out the Jesus article and edit it to keep it focused on Jesus and a biographical account of Him. Watch the Jesus page to keep it focused on Him. Thank you. Scifiintel 22:14, 6 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Potter featured article drive

I'm trying to get the Featured Article Drive going again on the HP Wikiproject. Check out Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Harry_Potter/Improvement#Improvement_Drive, I'd appreciate your input! Ëvilphoenix ^Burn! 05:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Requested article

Hello, Krun. My name is Hatto. I'm from Japan. I knew you were from Iceland. At first, I ask you a question. Are you interested with Japanese culture and people? I want you to edit a certain famous person's article in the Icelandic language if you are OK. Please answer to me! (I can't speak English well.) Hatto 12:57, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That'll probably not be a problem. Sure, I'll do it if there isn't extensive research involved ;) – Krun 16:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for answering to me, Krun! I want you to edit Masashi Tashiro's article in the Icelandic language, OK? I explain about him because you may not know him. He is a so famous television performer in Japan. However, he committed several crimes one by one and he was dismissed from the entertainment world since he committed a crimes (Sneak shot of a woman's skirt) in 2000. For repeated scaldals, he was chosen as Time magazine's Person of the Year by unjust voting in 2001. Now, his articles were editted in Japanese, English, French, Spanish, Indonesian and Chinese etc. May I request editting his article to you? Hatto 07:50, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

There just isn't any article on him in Icelandic. What is it you want me to do? Are you asking me to write/translate the whole article from English? If so, I won't be able to do this until after the New Year. – Krun 13:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like you to write and translate his article from Japanese and English wikipedia or other information. Ain't you able to edit until after the New Year comes? Of course, it's better if you do it from now, but you don't need to do it. I'm so glad if you do it in 2006. Hatto 01:24, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm so sorry to hurry you, but when do you edit Masashi Tashiro's article in Icelandic? Additionally, I'm so glad that you edit his article in Danish language if you are OK. Please!Hatto 15:44, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need some help

I already posted this on your french user page but i don't know if you check it regulary so i post it here to, could you help me with a little problem of translation on that page : fr:Discuter:Takk… Takk :)

Need a translation / Besoin de traduction

Salut! Je cherchais un utilisateur parlant Danois et je suis tombé sur toi, pourrais tu nous traduire ceci s'il te plait: Discuter:FC Midtjylland. Merci.Sebcaen | ¿? 21 février 2006 à 08:42 (CET) Hi, I waiting for a danish user, and I see your profile. Could you translate this please: fr:Discuter:FC Midtjylland. Thanks.Sebcaen | ¿? 21 février 2006 à 08:42 (CET)

Högisländska at the Swedish Wikipedia

Hello! I've left a message for you at your Swedish user talk page. /130.243.135.145 17:17, 1 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lofsöngur photos

Hi Krun - thank you for getting in touch. I took both photographs myself after a request. I've updated the files on the Commons with GFDL-self and have added an information box. Is this enough? If you need anything else from me don't hesitate to ask. Qwghlm 21:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bird names

Hi, please don't move articles on birds to "standard" wikipedia capitalization. (i.e. Common Starling -> Common starling), consensus has been reached to follow ornithological convention and capitalize all the words of bird's name in a title. (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Birds#Bird_names_and_article_titles for full explanation.) Thanks Dsmdgold 01:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've been through your contributions over the last couple of days and moved the pages back to the agreed titles and recapped the names as above. You might want to check that nothing useful like interwiki links has gone in the process. jimfbleak 05:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I wasn't aware of this and until now suspected that it was just some private preference of a user or two. Still, I noticed that the project page you linked to purports to be a „draft“. And anyway, it's silly if it's limited to articles on birds rather than animals in general (or even all living species). Is there a common consensus on these conventions throughout Wikipedia's zoological „community“? – Krun 11:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Capitalization of common names of species --Droll 05:59, 30 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hola

Disculpándome de antemano por no respetar tu aviso sobre el idioma que debo usar (no tengo tiempo ahora para escribirte en mi mal inglés) TE FELICITO por ser una persona tan completa: música, idiomas, internet y, por supuesto wikipedia. Espero que algún día puedas ayudarme con el idioma islandés, yo estoy dispuesto a resolver tus dudas acerca del español si lo necesitas (soy profesor). Saludos desde Chile.- KAZAHANA

Gracias, Kazahana. Desafortunadamente, mi español no es muy bueno, pero quizás comenzaré seriamente a aprenderlo este año. Si usted tiene cualesquiera preguntas sobre el islandés, no vacile pedir. – Krun 00:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

Hi! I have a request: could you translate sth from norwegian to english ([1] & [2])? It's really a short thing and I'd be most grateful to you if you did it ;) If for some reasons you cannot do this, please tell me who can (maybe you know someone who can help me).

I understand some of it and I want to know what prize they are talking about etc. Thanks Wyglif _SMS 19:33, 1 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

they're not that far apart

after an experiment with Russian and the Slavic languages I decided to try my hand at a Germanic one, and enska og islenska eru ekki mikil olikur. Erm, I'm only starting, so feel free to laugh at my grammar. And -- guess what? We have cases in Russian. --VKokielov 05:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Harry Potter

Hello, Krun. Over at WikiProject Harry Potter we're trying to compile a list of active participants. Your name, along with all other project participants, has been placed on the inactive list. If you'd like to get involved again, please place your name back on the active list, and take a look at the project talk page for the latest happenings.

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Un aiuto per un cognome

Caro Krun, complimenti per le tue conoscenze enciclopediche e poliglotte (ovvero di tante lingue). So che le tue conoscenze di italiano sono iniziali, ma approfitto comunque della tua cortesia. Mi chiamo Mauro Feltini (Feltini il cognome). Solo la mia famiglia ha questo cognome in Italia. Ho guardato su Google e trovo tanti riferimenti con Feltini (incluso la foto di uno splendido gattino) in lingua faroese (almeno credo sia questa lingua). Mi piacerebbe sapere cosa significa feltini in questa lingua. Mi puoi aiutare? Grazie P.S. Se trovi difficile il mio testo in italiano posso riscriverlo in inglese. Ciao e grazie

Caro Mauro! Nella lingua faroese, "feltini" significa "i campi" (campi como in un modulo di denuncia). È non una referenza verso tua famiglia. – Krun 19:55, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I hope my Italian made sense :P

Caro Krun, grazie mille per il tuo aiuto, il tuo italiano e' comprensibile e la tua risposta mi ha tolto una curiosita'. Se potro' ricambiare in qualche modo la tua cortesia, mi fara' piacere. Puoi scrivermi (anche in inglese) a mauro@feltini.it

Mac OS X

Whilst not being a strict comment or suggestion about you per se, I was just wondering if you have installed the Icelandic extras available for Mac OS X (I noticed that you’re a fellow Mac user). I have downloaded the pack and gotten to the point where the installer asks for a raðnúmer, I think this is asking for some kind of serial number but with my limited knowledge of Icelandic I’m not sure. You see, I want to install the language pack so it can help me further my understanding of Icelandic. I hope to live in Iceland one day! Anyway, could you help me translate this text so I can make sense of what the Installer is asking for?

Sláðu inn raðnúmerið sem þú fékkst við afhendingu tölvunnar eða stýrikerfisins. Vanti þig slíkt skaltu senda póst til tiger@apple.is.

Any help that you could give me would be much appreciated. P.S. If you have a minute could you check out some of my additions to the Icelandic language article, to see that my contribs (in the grammar and phrases sections) make grammatical sense. Only if you want to, I mean I need someone to check over my very basic íslenska. Max Naylor 19:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the installer is in fact asking for a specific serial number which customers in Iceland receive when they buy an Apple computer here. It furthermore directs the user to contact tiger@apple.is if he does not have one. By the way, I checked your contributions and made some corrections, mainly in pronunciation. – Krun 19:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, OK thanks mate. Wonder if I’ll be able to get one if I send an e-mail. Cheers for the corrections, BTW. Max Naylor 21:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Iceland

Maybe you are interested in this project... --Michkalas 14:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimania 2010 could be coming to Stockholm!

I'm leaving you a note as you may be interested in this opportunity.

People from all six Nordic Wiki-communities (sv, no, nn, fi, da and is) are coordinating a bid for Wikimania 2010 in Stockholm. I'm sending you a message to let you know that this is occurring, and over the next few months we're looking for community support to make sure this happens! See the bid page on meta and if you like such an idea, please sign the "supporters" list at the bottom. Tack (or takk), and have a wonderful day! Mike H. Fierce! 09:51, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Icelandic example recordings

Hello! I noticed you uploaded some examples of Icelandic to Wikimedia Commons. Would you be willing to record a set of examples as an audio illustration for Aspirated consonant, showing the unusual contrast in aspiration, preaspiration, doubling, and vowel length of stops in Icelandic?

kapp "zeal"
gabb "hoax"
gap "opening"

As a language enthusiast, I would very much appreciate this. — Eru·tuon 20:47, 19 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Ég þarf að skrifa á íslensku

Halló, ég vona að þú sért í góðu skapi. Hér ferum við. Ég þarf að spyrja spurningu. Hver er skoðun þín á lífinu? Ég myndi segja: „Lifðu gott líf; njóttu þess eins vel og þú getur“... — AWESOME meeos ！ * ([ˈjæb.ə ət məɪ])) 13:19, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sæll. Það er ágætt að þú sért að læra íslensku. Byrjum á því að leiðrétta það sem þú skrifaðir:

Halló, ég vona að þú sért í góðu skapi. (perfect)

Hér ~~ferum~~ förum við. (This literal translation of “Here we go” in inappropriate; there is no direct equivalent to the English usage of that phrase here, and it would be most natural not to say anything of the kind)

Ég þarf að spyrja ~~spurningu~~ spurningar (genitive case).

Hver er skoðun þín á lífinu? Ég myndi segja: (perfect)

„Lifðu ~~gott líf~~ góðu lífi (dative case);

njóttu þess eins vel og þú getur“... (perfect)

Sem svar við uppgefinni lífsskoðun þinni vil ég segja: „Lifðu kærleiksríku lífi; láttu náunga þinn njóta þess eins vel og þú getur“. Sælla er að gefa en þiggja, og þar að auki nýturðu þess er fólkið endurgeldur greiðasemina. Það er það sem maður kallar „win–win“. – Krun (talk) 15:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the heads up! Yes, the cases do intimidate me... — AWESOME meeos ！ * ([ˈjæb.ə ət məɪ])) 21:11, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Jónas Egilsson

Hi. Takk fyrir for your kind words of appreciation of my work and article. I have written many articles about Iceland, as I am very interested in that country, its culture, language and people. I would like to learn Icelandic one day :) Nice that you have translated the article into English, as it makes possible for more people to know about this person :) Kveðjur frá Póllandi, Żyrafał (talk) 13:45, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Could you help?..

Hi, You were the first (active) editor I found with a babel IS-N! (there are not many!) I am trying to validate some old facebook derived images. I have got stuck on c:File:Icelandic words for computer.jpg. The image has a license of CC-zero. According to Google there is some mention of wiki use, but I can't find a proper license declaration - it seems to point to an Icelandic page, where clicking the image brings one back to commons - Google is not that good at all that translation, it might have missed something. Can you see if there is a good enough permission? Thanks. Ronhjones ^(Talk) 22:37, 29 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: The Facebook conversation does not include license specifics. The uploader, Ævar, asked the author, Þórhallur, for permission to use it with a free (libre) license, which he agreed to immediately. While it wasn’t specified what the license would be, I’m not sure that the graph is copyrightable at all. There was minimal work involved, as the data (which anyway isn’t copyrightable by itself) just comes from timarit.is, a public magazine and newspaper repository, and the graph is drawn with LibreOffice. In any case, I think the author has given implicit consent to the license since Ævar posted the link to the article (giving him opportunity to review the license) and he approved. I do think that it would have been more appropriate to put this on Ævar’s talk page (@Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason:) and if you have further questions you should direct them at him. I hope this helps. – Krun (talk) 12:56, 1 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, I am seeking help with the Foreman Thuridur article, recently translated from is:Þuríður formaður, and the discussion on its talk page. I am writing to you because you are in Category:User is-N and you are either part of WikiProject Iceland, interested in translating, or have been active on the Icelandic or English Wikipedias or other Wikimedia projects.

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Thanks very much, Krun, for looking at this and correcting the inflected form to Stéttar. I have since had an email from Margaret Willson who tells me "The name of the farm where Þuríður grew up and also where Jón Geirmundsson later lived is Stéttir (in various cases Stéttir, Stétta, Stéttum, Stéttir…..). It is located just to the east of Eyrarbakki near the coast. Perhaps there is another farm near Selfoss with the name Stéttar?" Perhaps you could take a look at the full text of [3] and see what you think. I can read Icelandic but am no expert on grammar. I must say there are a few places in the area where she lived which today contain Stéttar.--Ipigott (talk) 18:18, 20 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ipigott: Stéttar and Stéttir is the same place name in different forms; they are variant plural forms of the common noun stétt. Both forms are used for this exact place; my source was [4], which uses Stéttar and quotes older sources also using that form of the name (and mentions it as the birthplace of Þuríður), though other sources may use Stéttir. I believe that the more proper form in this case may be Stéttar, but it is not of great importance, and the form Stéttir should not exactly be regarded as an error. Perhaps we should put “Stéttar (or Stéttir)” or something like that, as giving both forms may help people search the available source material. – Krun (talk) 00:45, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for explaining this so clearly. I've followed your advice on Stéttar (or Stéttir). That should keep everyone happy.--Ipigott (talk) 11:50, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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