Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arkansas–Texas Tech football rivalry

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The result was keep‎. Daniel (talk) 00:17, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Arkansas–Texas Tech football rivalry

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Arkansas–Texas Tech football rivalry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Subject does not meet the WP:NRIVALRY due to a lack of independent, significant coverage. The only WP:SIGCOV source (#2) is from a Lubbock based outlet, which is WP:LOCAL. Per WP:NOPAGE, this can be covered at the articles for the respective teams. Let'srun (talk) 16:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports, American football, Arkansas, and Texas. Let'srun (talk) 16:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
• Keep Passes WP:GNG with sources such as It’s about time: Texas Tech-Arkansas rivalry a casualty of this era, Rivalry’s nostalgia palpable and Game Recognizes Game: The Saga of Texas vs Arkansas Through the Decades. Please note that WP:LOCAL links to an essay (i.e. neither an official policy or guideline) called Wikipedia:Places of local interest. Alvaldi (talk) 18:23, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

• Struck the last source, my bad. Alvaldi (talk) 16:43, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

• Keep per unsigned comments from User:Alvaldi. Cbl62 (talk) 22:55, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

  Just a note that the last source is about the Arkansas-Texas football rivalry. Let'srun (talk) 23:03, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

• Keep per the sources above. BUT I have to stress that WP:LOCAL should be hesitantly used for rivalry articles because of independence. These two teams are lucky to have sources outside the cities that they are based in. However, other teams should have more outside the realm of their city feud. If anything, it shows bias about a team that may not actually have a rivalry, but one city/area certainly thinks so. I am not saying don't use them to support GNG, but don't use them as the only sources. Conyo14 (talk) 06:05, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

  Strongly disagree. As Alvaldi notes, WP:LOCAL is neither an official policy or guideline ... and on its face WP:LOCAL purports to cover places of local interest. See also WP:ITSLOCAL ("it's only notable locally", e.g. "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia of the entire world, not just Woodsville", is an argument to avoid in deletion discussions). The one exception (not applicable here) is the WP:AUD limitation in WP:NCORP. A proposal in 2019 to extend WP:AUD more broadly to Wikipedia articles was rejected by the community. See Wikipedia talk:Notability/Archive 64#Local sources, again. Cbl62 (talk) 14:49, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

• Keep. The sources identified by Alvaldi (excluding the last one [now struck] that only mentions a rivalry between Arkansas and Texas Tech in passing and mainly focuses on Arkansas-Texas) describe a significant rivalry from the teams' days in the Southwestern Conference. While the rivarry has cooled considerably in the past few decades, notability is WP:NOTTEMPORARY. Frank Anchor 16:02, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.