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== Personal attacks removed ==
== 07.10.07 ==
The article on the kind "Pollenia" sensu Rognes (like that on its article on Calliphoridae, in general), is the expression of an incomparable ignorance on these dipterous and it represents a true POLENIOMANIA of its author. These is the cause for which the readers, who are not advised, must read and in particular retain its information with many precautions. In the recent critical articles on the wild imaginings of Rognes on Pollenia and, also on the kind Eurychaeta B.B. (which belongs to the Sarcophagidae family), one finds the evidence, on the basis of morpho-structural research of these dipterous, which it introduced of nomina nuda and of characteristic fabulations to the author of the article. Us give, for information exact of readers, some articles well documented, which reveals the inaccuracies of the data, which were published by Knut Rognes, in a great polleniomaniacal series of publications.


There seems to be little need or purpose served by allowing the numerous personal attacks posted here by [[User:AzLehrer]] and his sockpuppet accounts ("Pandur" and "Condor"; see [[Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/AzLehrer]]) to remain. The edits by this editor violate [[WP:SOCK]], [[WP:NPOV]], [[WP:CIVIL]], [[WP:OWN]], [[WP:SPS]], and others, and really don't need to be given continued exposure here. Readers interested in seeing these insults can do so by viewing the page history prior to today's date. [[User:Dyanega|Dyanega]] ([[User talk:Dyanega|talk]]) 23:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
For your explanation I give you critical work of A. Lehrer, in which you can note the ineptitudes of Rognes on the genus ''Pollenia'' and ''Eurychaeta''.


== External links modified ==
1. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, Variabilité de ''Pollenia rudis'' (Fabricius) et ses nouvelles synonymes (Diptera, Calliphoridae). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr. 7 : 13.- 19[http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4KUyR08Vop0FfJi1yhmgwbombTVf5f2GlpOQXsZv59RrWhxTjc4ncpbeBIC_zEE5CuhUtZAREL-YkpnrYLKiTw/Variabilite%20de%20Pollenia%20rudis%20%28Fabricius%29.pdf].


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2. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, Nouvelles espèces et nouveaux synonymes du genre ''Nitellia'' Robineau-Desvoidy (Diptera, Calliphoridae). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr. 7 : 19 - 27[http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4KUyR9nml8sFfJi145ISbGEjtrXO1Scdrh6RvSEeKWkj4Ufi5Y0M-QlcUUJ9DNO9dzylO0HQjRjJBsV5-Gy-XA/Nouvelles%20especes%20et%20nouveaux%20synonyms%20du%20genre%20Nitellia.pdf].


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3. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, A propos de ''Pollenia amentaria'' sensu Rognes, 1991 (Diptera, Calliphoridae). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr. 8 : 1 - 3[http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4KUyR-XXqosFfJi1xIgl_OYWtxKNHyKcbSe4QSzf_ea56AHS0zucvEUK5jPoI8w4mHie3YnqSn_ZtqOVMVuDpg/A%20propos%20de%20Pollenia%20amentaria%20sensu%20Rognes.pdf].
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4. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, ''Pollenia venturii'' sensu Rognes 1992 est un synonyme de ''Nitellia solitaria'' (Grunin, 1970) (Diptera, Calliphoridae). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr. 8 : 17 - 20.
''[http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4KUyRyMSVl0FfJi1FdjDSbX5t3MLtjdEwKgEoROcsJFk43jClZgkB19wzdc3B99jM1F1Z4jGaNsfdNlLObI_Vg/Pollenia%20venturii%20sensu%20Rognes%201992.pdf]


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5. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, Analyse critique du «'' Pollenia vagabunda species-group » sensu Rognes (Diptera, Calliphoridae). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr. 9 : 1-6[http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4KUyR3KJIiUFfJi1x-d0pQoBBNtz7DE9K-IVm5CkxyFf85nvpjUCkZ0qG6vghN6UQslSyCUKdAcOJzrDDwiovg/Analyse%20critique%20du%20Pollenia%20vagabunda%20%20sensu%20Rognes.pdf].


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6. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, A propos de « ''Pollenia intermedia''-group » sensu Rognes et du statut de Pollenia rudis alajensis Rohdendorf (Diptera, Calliphoridae). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr. 9:7-11 [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4KUyR_enwMcFfJi10SGTMO80EAJMVfiT7CgCpuDsgDaqbkRFaJkiKtFkCKQe3ryDk8oopII9IRofPE9P6h72BQ/A%20propos%20de%20Pollenia%20intermedia-group%20sensu%20Rognes.pdf]


The organism for this wikipedia fly is the Cluster fly or Pollenia. The strengths of this page are that it includes a helpful image and it also includes an interesting short video of the Cluster fly. At least 3 general categories in this article are missing and I base these recommendations on the article for Calliphoridae (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calliphoridae). They are: development, food sources, and predators. Each of these categories create a fuller picture about what distinguishes the cluster flies from others physically, scavenging, and predation. More detail on predation can give context about Cluster fley behavior.
7. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, La terminologie nomenclatrice illogique et non conforme de Knut Rognes, dans la recherche des Calliphoridae (Diptera). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr.11:5-7 [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4KUyR1w3dS8FfJi1-SzXZqtIY1oZx37HFKEKtWARe4D7jkn80fEdcBO1UmmeV1tN1JTdiWzVYth3nb1JAfA9Ww/La%20terminologie%20illogique%20de%20Rognes.pdf]
This Wikipedia page appears to be incomplete, however. It has very little detail about the cluster fly. There are too few references (only two total) and none of them are included inside of the text. The claim that cluster flies “do not present a health hazard because they do not lay eggs in human food” should be substantiated by verified evidence and cited in-text. Also, describing cluster flies as a “nuisance” is biased because it is a subjective description of how a fly seems to a human rather than an objective description of what the fly is itself.
Further, the grammar itself is sometimes nonsensical. For example, the page states that the cluster fly is “parasitic on earthworms,” whent the correct wording would be that it is “parasitic to earthworms.” A short revision would be sufficient to improve the grammar in this article.
[[User:Chickfilkay|Chickfilkay]] ([[User talk:Chickfilkay|talk]]) <!--Template:Undated--><small class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 23:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:Have changed it to "parasitise earthworms" which seems to me to be most correct.
8. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, Analyse de ''Pollenia semicinerea'' sensu Rognes et description d’une espèce nouvelle du genre Pollenia R.D. (Diptera, Calliphoridae). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr. 9 :20-25 [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/QPoyR9SF7-qQsD2-tBZPkcIU5GOd7dl7rWH6paFhG9r5t3aJakWc6mi7fYVsjMs-dnF2GwysxA_qv89aIeMgFA/Analyse%20de%20Pollenia%20semicinerea%20sensu%20Rognes.pdf]
:I would add that I wasn't taught to be concerned about the health risk from flies due to their ''laying eggs'' in human food (though obviously that would be a problem) but because they have indiscrimate feeding habits. That is, they will walk around in a toilet feeding on faeces and then land on food, spreading "germs" on their feet and in their saliva. Saying a fly isn't a health risk in the former way doesn't have any implications as to the health risk or otherwise from the latter. Perhaps this page is in need of attention from someone who has a reasonable knowledge of the literature and can comment on the sense or otherwise of this, and reference it properly?

:Otherwise, I think the "not hazardous to human health" statement might reasonably be removed.
9. LEHRER, A.Z., 2007, La fausse théorie de Rognes sur la position systématique du genre ''Eurychaeta'' B.B. et établissement d’une nouvelle espèce asiatique (Diptera, Sarcophagidae). Fragmenta Dipterologica, nr. 10 :8-12 [http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/UAgzR8Ls1B8DD4x3ZHm8oTvizCXIxIZJr2_rkiMu-QuwKYDTPzQIm952tA2KN6Xjo74hQWnZWZDPKuTMfYNlBA/La%20fausse%20theorie%20de%20Rognes%20%20Eurychaeta%20B.B..pdf]
:Finally, the list could do with geographical organisation or something: I was looking for the British cluster fly/flies, and that is a long list to sort through...

: :-)
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Pandur <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/89.1.234.168|89.1.234.168]] ([[User talk:89.1.234.168|talk]]) 13:15, 7 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

==13.10.07==

Dear friends,

You now have the proof of the '''psychosis of one of large impostors of our time, Knut Rognes''', which '''is obsessed by the worship of its personality and not to find and correctly express the facts of nature'''. In one is '''single delirious of interpretation''' in the world of the taxonomists, this ignoramus made '''inventions which are in conformity neither to the standards of the International Code of Zoological Nomenclature and nor with the biological truth'''. Moreover, it is has a '''character of a "ragged" and not of a man of science''', because it continuously uses the means of slandering of enquiring truths and complaints with the university forums.

Even now it erased the files pdf which were assembled to the invalid species of Rognes and which show the strong arguments of its ineptitudes on ''Pollenia'' and the ''Eurychaeta'' genus (of the Sarcophagidae family).

It is afraid of scientific criticisms of Prof. Dr. A. Z. Lehrer, because it is only one simple mime according to work of the specialists, by believing a large taxonomist philosopher who does not understand anything on taxonomy and the nomenclature of Calliphoridae. This is the cause for which it has destroyed the addresses of files pdf, by believing that the researchers cannot directly read work of great value of Dr. Lehrer. Really, Rognes is the most retrograde, the most sterile and the most idiotic (as is usually named) amateurs dipterologists. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.166.153.2|82.166.153.2]] ([[User talk:82.166.153.2|talk]]) 13:25, 13 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

But, we put a very serious question: '''who has the right to erase the contributions of the men of science to establish the scientific truths and as is it possible that a "ragged" can be introduced, by intellectual effraction, in the contributions of the others, which were written in your Wikipedia?'''

Pandur and Condor <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.166.153.2|82.166.153.2]] ([[User talk:82.166.153.2|talk]]) 11:18, 13 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


==November 8, 2007 ==

We went up files pdf of the articles concerning the aberrations of Rognes and '''we ask you to keep these files for documentation and discussions of the researchers and against the pathological actions of Rognes, to erase these files.'''

P.S. Only after 3 hours, some files were erased by the '''polleniomaniac''' Rognes, which in its paranoia cannot understand which must go to hospital.

Condor <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.166.221.72|82.166.221.72]] ([[User talk:82.166.221.72|talk]]) 06:52, 8 November 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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There seems to be little need or purpose served by allowing the numerous personal attacks posted here by User:AzLehrer and his sockpuppet accounts ("Pandur" and "Condor"; see Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/AzLehrer) to remain. The edits by this editor violate WP:SOCK, WP:NPOV, WP:CIVIL, WP:OWN, WP:SPS, and others, and really don't need to be given continued exposure here. Readers interested in seeing these insults can do so by viewing the page history prior to today's date. Dyanega (talk) 23:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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The organism for this wikipedia fly is the Cluster fly or Pollenia. The strengths of this page are that it includes a helpful image and it also includes an interesting short video of the Cluster fly. At least 3 general categories in this article are missing and I base these recommendations on the article for Calliphoridae (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calliphoridae). They are: development, food sources, and predators. Each of these categories create a fuller picture about what distinguishes the cluster flies from others physically, scavenging, and predation. More detail on predation can give context about Cluster fley behavior. This Wikipedia page appears to be incomplete, however. It has very little detail about the cluster fly. There are too few references (only two total) and none of them are included inside of the text. The claim that cluster flies “do not present a health hazard because they do not lay eggs in human food” should be substantiated by verified evidence and cited in-text. Also, describing cluster flies as a “nuisance” is biased because it is a subjective description of how a fly seems to a human rather than an objective description of what the fly is itself. Further, the grammar itself is sometimes nonsensical. For example, the page states that the cluster fly is “parasitic on earthworms,” whent the correct wording would be that it is “parasitic to earthworms.” A short revision would be sufficient to improve the grammar in this article. Chickfilkay (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:40, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Have changed it to "parasitise earthworms" which seems to me to be most correct.
I would add that I wasn't taught to be concerned about the health risk from flies due to their laying eggs in human food (though obviously that would be a problem) but because they have indiscrimate feeding habits. That is, they will walk around in a toilet feeding on faeces and then land on food, spreading "germs" on their feet and in their saliva. Saying a fly isn't a health risk in the former way doesn't have any implications as to the health risk or otherwise from the latter. Perhaps this page is in need of attention from someone who has a reasonable knowledge of the literature and can comment on the sense or otherwise of this, and reference it properly?
Otherwise, I think the "not hazardous to human health" statement might reasonably be removed.
Finally, the list could do with geographical organisation or something: I was looking for the British cluster fly/flies, and that is a long list to sort through...
:-)
FloweringOctopus (talk) 15:27, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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