Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/AzLehrer
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the case of suspected sockpuppetry. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page. All edits should go to the talk page of this case. If you are seeing this page as a result of an attempt to open a new case of sockpuppetry of the same user, read this for detailed instructions.
- Suspected sockpuppeteer
AzLehrer (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
- Suspected sockpuppets
Pandur (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · block log)
dozens of IP sockpuppets (see below)
- Report submission by
Dyanega (talk) 22:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Evidence
There are various lines of evidence for sockpuppetry; one of the most damning is that this same user has created the same sockpuppet in both the English and French Wikipedia. On the French WP, this user has been blocked [1], and used the "Pandur" sockpuppet there [2] to circumvent the block on the primary account, though it was also blocked recently. He makes no attempt to conceal his identity on the main account, and the "Pandur" (and "Condor") sockpuppets are portrayed as a "third party" that supports and parrots the main account's views ("P.S. Je vous prie de ne me confondre avec Prof. Dr. Lehrer."). The editor works in Tel Aviv, and all of the IP sockpuppets, many of which use the name "Pandur" as a signature (other names such as "Condor" are common - even "Pandur & Condor"[3]) are from dial-up connections in Tel Aviv. In the English WP, this editor and all of his sockpuppets edit only three pages, all of the edits being similar in tone and content, whether they are in French or English; the three pages are Bengalia, Cluster fly, and Blow-fly, with special emphasis on the associated talk pages. On Talk:Bengalia, for example, he has edited from the main account, the Pandur account, plus the IP sockpuppets 89.1.189.40, 82.166.233.100, 89.1.254.20, 82.166.237.200, 89.1.181.24, 82.166.236.207, 89.1.197.81, 89.1.183.123, 89.1.197.37, 82.166.153.202, 82.166.221.72, 89.1.210.214, and 82.166.171.130.
- Comments
This editor, identified as [redacted] by his own admission, is engaged in systematic personal attacks on other scientists who have published criticisms and refutations of his research; in essence, he is taking an academic dispute to WP, where his critics are not present, and he can call them "idiots"[4] and "racists"[5] without fear of their responding. Regardless of the merits or lack thereof of this editor's published works (all his proposed classifications have been explicitly rejected by the scientific community thus far, and clearly this is what is prompting his disruptive behavior here, since WP policy dictates following the mainstream, not the fringe - and a taxobox can only use one classification) he refuses to abide by WP:NPOV. Most notably, this editor has placed MASSIVE diatribes personally denouncing his critics on the talk pages of all three of the articles listed above, in blatant violation of WP:CIVIL and other guidelines, in addition to constant deletion of external links and references to other scientists' works (numerous WP:3RR violations), and inclusion of numerous citations and links to several self-published and non-peer-reviewed sources for his own work (WP:SPS and WP:RS and WP:OWN issues). That these edits are originating primarily from dial-up IPs, linked by their common origins and common signatures, compounds the offenses committed. Every attempt to explain WP policy to this editor has been rebuffed or ignored, generally with claims that I or the other editors chastising him must be pawns or sockpuppets of his academic nemesis.
We have here a very disruptive editor using IP sockpuppets, and I see little alternative than to follow the French WP folks and block or ban this user, remove the inflammatory personal attacks, and see whether the IP sockpuppets can possibly be blocked. Temporary semi-protection for these three pages is only of very limited help, since most of the abuse takes place on the talk pages. Help and suggestions are welcome, since the editor is utterly recalcitrant and unapologetic.
- Conclusions
- There has been sufficient evidence presented that certain anonymous accounts are sock puppets of the subject in question:
89.1.189.40
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)82.166.233.100
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)89.1.254.20
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)82.166.237.200
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)89.1.181.24
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)82.166.236.207
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)89.1.197.81
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)89.1.183.123
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)89.1.197.37
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)82.166.153.202
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)82.166.221.72
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)89.1.210.214
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)82.166.171.130
(talk · contribs · checkuser · block user · block log · edit count)
- IP blocked
- With regards to Pandur (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), Deferred to a user who has better linguistic/French translation skills than myself, in order to facilitate improved closure of this aspect of the case.
- – Anthøny 22:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Two same names and editing same topics on two different language wikis is way beyond chance level. They were blocked in the French wiki too. I've blocked and tagged the named accounts. — Rlevse • Talk • 23:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]