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== How to live till 100 == |
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About health advice from (super)centenarians: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/24/health/long-life-advice-centenarian-partner-content-wellness/index.html --[[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|talk]]) 09:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC) |
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i think everyone who has had this title should at least have a page misao okawa had significant coverage from lots of news sources [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 21:38, 2 August 2023 (UTC) |
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== Adding LongeviQuest to the project page == |
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:First of all, writing in E. E. Cummings style is unhelpful for communication. Secondly, on what basis do you disagree with the outcome of that AfD? [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights#top|<span style="font-family: MS Mincho; color: black;">話して下さい</span>]]) 01:02, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::Well most of your afds were based on "just because your old you arent notable" while that makes sense for serval articles misao okawa was the oldest living person for almost 2 years and got significant coverage by the media for it most of the other recent worlds oldest people titleholders have pages including mrs okawas two of mrs okaws immediate successors (Susannah myshatt jones and Jerlean talley) [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 14:03, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::Just because someone kept breathing doesn't mean anyone cared. Where are the sources about Okawa that provide any meaningful coverage of her life? All we could find were things basically saying "she still has a pulse", and then when she died say "she had a pulse and now doesn't". If there's something more in-depth I'd be happy to see it, despite my signature I don't speak any meaningful amount of Japanese so I know I'm starting from behind. Give us some links. And I'm also a bit leery of calling then "title holders" and similar, for reasons someone laid [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)&diff=prev&oldid=421533931 here] many years ago. [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights#top|<span style="font-family: MS Mincho; color: black;">話して下さい</span>]]) 14:20, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::"So what if she lived long who cares?" That's a terrible argument all you have to do is search her up and you'll see tons of corvgare of her death and recongization as worlds oldest person clearly people care about longevity otherwise it woudlnt be picked up by lots of news soruces just because you don't care doesnt mean no one else does [[Special:Contributions/2603:7080:393C:DD00:FC0A:37CE:7105:C53F|2603:7080:393C:DD00:FC0A:37CE:7105:C53F]] ([[User talk:2603:7080:393C:DD00:FC0A:37CE:7105:C53F|talk]]) 17:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::Didnt realize I got logged out but I look back at t he se adds and I see the same 4 people on them seems like you dogpiled on longevity arcitles with other editors and you've gotten called out on that serval times it seems when you were doing that [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 17:31, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::If you even bother to do a standard Google search youd see that there are more then 10 pages of news sources covering her the argument that "longevity does not equal notability" is a opinion at best and should not have even been considered as actual reason for deletion [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 17:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::So post a few of those links here, then we can assess them. [[User:The Blade of the Northern Lights|The Blade of the Northern Lights]] ([[User talk:The Blade of the Northern Lights#top|<span style="font-family: MS Mincho; color: black;">話して下さい</span>]]) 18:04, 25 August 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::Here are a few for Misao: |
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::::::::1. [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32142212 BBC], 2. [https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/04/01/396770154/world-s-oldest-person-dies-at-age-117 NPR], 3.[https://www.livescience.com/50340-worlds-oldest-woman-died.html Live Science] (less well known, but rated Green by newsguard according to wikipedia), 4. [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/05/life-short-worlds-oldest-person-misao-okawa-117 The Guardian], 5. [https://www.wsj.com/articles/BL-JRTB-19631 WSJ] [[User:EytanMelech|EytanMelech]] ([[User talk:EytanMelech|talk]]) 23:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::exactly this page was just many of a well intentioned but extremely misguided "clean up" done a few years back but instead of cleaing the category up all it achieved was the almost complete annihilation of the topic via flooding the loga with AFDS in which the same 3 people rehashed the same argument again and again withought bothering to even look if what they are saying makes any sense I also notice that if someone comes up with a semi competent argument the afd falls flat on its face which kinda shows how pointless this "cleanup" (a better word would be completle massacre of the topic) misao okawa is more relevant then most articles he will ever be plain and simple [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 01:04, 31 December 2023 (UTC) |
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::::::::::To prevent premature nuking by anyone I have established a [[Draft:Misao Okawa|draft article for her]] with 14 different RS to prove a point. It should remain in draftspace at least until other outgoing AfDs on supercentenarians such as Berg and Francis have been resolved. [[User:EytanMelech|EytanMelech]] ([[User talk:EytanMelech|talk]]) 01:25, 31 December 2023 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::There are tons of old and really flimsy argued afds that were done in 2018 btw [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 22:47, 1 January 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::I hope to help reform that mess [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 22:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{unindent}}Related discussion is ongoing at [[Talk:List of British supercentenarians]]. --[[User:Randykitty|Randykitty]] ([[User talk:Randykitty|talk]]) 08:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC) |
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Would someone more involved with this WikiProject please add a statement about the reliability of |
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== How old is too young? == |
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{{url|https://longeviquest.com}} & {{tq|https://lq1.wpengine.com}} to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Longevity#Databases]] section? [[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 16:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Food for thought ... == |
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What is the minimum age requirement for an article to be part of longevity? [[User:Roastedbeanz1|Roasted]] ([[User talk:Roastedbeanz1|talk]]) 13:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC) |
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*{{cite web |last=Newman |first=Saul Justin |title=‘The data on extreme human ageing is rotten from the inside out’ – Ig Nobel winner Saul Justin Newman |website=The Conversation |date=2024-09-13 |url=https://theconversation.com/the-data-on-extreme-human-ageing-is-rotten-from-the-inside-out-ig-nobel-winner-saul-justin-newman-239023 |access-date=2024-09-16}} |
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== How to live till 100 == |
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[[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 20:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:This man has no clue what he is talking about [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 13:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::The only food for thought hs is the sad fact that people will make outrageous claims just for attention just like those Russian conspiracy theorists who made that ridiculous claim about Jeanne calment [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 14:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Longeviquest == |
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Since the grg has a page shouldn't we make one for longeviquest as well? Since they are also a research group and has also been cited in the media [[User:Wwew345t|Wwew345t]] ([[User talk:Wwew345t|talk]]) 15:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC) |
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How to live till 100
[edit]About health advice from (super)centenarians: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/24/health/long-life-advice-centenarian-partner-content-wellness/index.html --Randykitty (talk) 09:20, 29 June 2024 (UTC)
Adding LongeviQuest to the project page
[edit]Would someone more involved with this WikiProject please add a statement about the reliability of
longeviquesthttps://lq1.wpengine.com
to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Longevity#Databases section? Peaceray (talk) 16:48, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
Food for thought ...
[edit]- Newman, Saul Justin (2024-09-13). "'The data on extreme human ageing is rotten from the inside out' – Ig Nobel winner Saul Justin Newman". The Conversation. Retrieved 2024-09-16.
Peaceray (talk) 20:21, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- This man has no clue what he is talking about Wwew345t (talk) 13:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- The only food for thought hs is the sad fact that people will make outrageous claims just for attention just like those Russian conspiracy theorists who made that ridiculous claim about Jeanne calment Wwew345t (talk) 14:00, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Longeviquest
[edit]Since the grg has a page shouldn't we make one for longeviquest as well? Since they are also a research group and has also been cited in the media Wwew345t (talk) 15:39, 27 October 2024 (UTC)