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==== Two files ====
==== Two files ====
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The result of the discussion was: '''delete'''. — [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#6A5ACD;">'''ξ'''</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit</sup>]] 01:20, 24 February 2016 (UTC) <!--Template:Puf top-->
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg">[[:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ARam+Kamal+Mukherjee.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ARam+Kamal+Mukherjee.jpg}} logs])</span>.
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg">[[:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ARam+Kamal+Mukherjee.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ARam+Kamal+Mukherjee.jpg}} logs])</span>.
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg">[[:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ARam+Kamal+Mukherjee+Picture.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ARam+Kamal+Mukherjee+Picture.jpg}} logs])</span>.
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg">[[:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ARam+Kamal+Mukherjee+Picture.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ARam+Kamal+Mukherjee+Picture.jpg}} logs])</span>.


Two copies of the same file. Sourced to Google, without evidence of permission. The uploader claims to be the subject of the photograph (Ram Kamal Mukherjee). As there is no evidence that the uploader is the photographer (Vickky Idnaani), the uploader needs to ensure that the photographer provides evidence of permission. --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 09:27, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Two copies of the same file. Sourced to Google, without evidence of permission. The uploader claims to be the subject of the photograph (Ram Kamal Mukherjee). As there is no evidence that the uploader is the photographer (Vickky Idnaani), the uploader needs to ensure that the photographer provides evidence of permission. --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 09:27, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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====[[:File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg]] ====

==== [[:File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg]] ====
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The result of the discussion was: '''convert''' to fair use. — [[User:Explicit|<span style="color:#6A5ACD;">'''ξ'''</span>]][[User talk:Explicit|<sup style="color:#000000;">xplicit</sup>]] 01:20, 24 February 2016 (UTC) <!--Template:Puf top-->
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg">[[:File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ABeparoyaa+Poster.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ABeparoyaa+Poster.jpg}} logs])</span>.
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg">[[:File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ABeparoyaa+Poster.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ABeparoyaa+Poster.jpg}} logs])</span>.
* Poster. Unlikely to be own work by the uploader. [[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 09:29, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
* Poster. Unlikely to be own work by the uploader. [[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 09:29, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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====[[:File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg]] ====

==== [[:File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg]] ====
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The result of the discussion was: '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#888800;">⚡</span>]] 05:03, 23 February 2016 (UTC) <!--Template:Puf top-->
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg">[[:File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3AGurinder+Seagal.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Gurinder Seagal.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AGurinder+Seagal.jpg}} logs])</span>.
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg">[[:File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3AGurinder+Seagal.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Gurinder Seagal.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AGurinder+Seagal.jpg}} logs])</span>.
* This is claimed to be a selfie of a person called Gurinder Seagal. On [[:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg]], the uploader claims that he is called Ram Kamal Mukherjee. There is no evidence that the uploader is Gurinder Seagal. [[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 09:30, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
* This is claimed to be a selfie of a person called Gurinder Seagal. On [[:File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg]], the uploader claims that he is called Ram Kamal Mukherjee. There is no evidence that the uploader is Gurinder Seagal. [[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 09:30, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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====[[:File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg]] ====

==== [[:File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg]] ====
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The result of the discussion was: '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#888800;">⚡</span>]] 05:03, 23 February 2016 (UTC) <!--Template:Puf top-->
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg">[[:File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ADebojit+Saha+Picture.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ADebojit+Saha+Picture.jpg}} logs])</span>.
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg">[[:File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ADebojit+Saha+Picture.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ADebojit+Saha+Picture.jpg}} logs])</span>.
* Looks like a screenshot of a TV programme, and the text {{tq|Aakash Aath Channel's Programme}} on the file information page also suggests so. No evidence that the uploader is the photographer. [[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 09:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
* Looks like a screenshot of a TV programme, and the text {{tq|Aakash Aath Channel's Programme}} on the file information page also suggests so. No evidence that the uploader is the photographer. [[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 09:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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==== [[:File:ArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG]] ====
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The result of the discussion was: '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#888800;">⚡</span>]] 03:03, 24 February 2016 (UTC) <!--Template:Puf top-->
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:ArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG">[[:File:ArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG]] ([{{fullurl:File:ArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3AArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:ArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:ArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3AArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG}} logs])</span>.
* If the image is copyrighted, [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=File:ArmandAssante-Belarus.JPG&diff=prev&oldid=705268487 as the uploader writes in its description], we can't use it. We have a free image, [[:File:Armand Assante Za misli.jpg]] [[User:GRuban|GRuban]] ([[User talk:GRuban|talk]]) 15:07, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
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==== [[:File:Benton Jennings.jpg]] ====
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The result of the discussion was: '''Delete'''; deleted by {{admin|Explicit}} [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#888800;">⚡</span>]] 03:03, 24 February 2016 (UTC) <!--Template:Puf top-->
:<span class="plainlinks nourlexpansion lx" id="File:Benton Jennings.jpg">[[:File:Benton Jennings.jpg]] ([{{fullurl:File:Benton Jennings.jpg|action=delete&wpReason=%5B%5BWikipedia%3APossibly+unfree+files%2F2016+February+16%23File%3ABenton+Jennings.jpg%5D%5D}} delete] | [[File talk:Benton Jennings.jpg|talk]] | [{{fullurl:File:Benton Jennings.jpg|action=history}} history] | [{{fullurl:Special:Log|page=File%3ABenton+Jennings.jpg}} logs])</span>.
* EXIF data clearly shows "David Beeler Photography". Text suggests uploader is the subject NOT the photographer, and no formal evidence of copyright transfer [[User:Ronhjones|<b style="border:1px solid #dfdfdf;color:green; padding:1px 3px;background:#FFD">Ron<span style="color:red">h</span>jones&nbsp;</b>]]<sup>[[User talk:Ronhjones|&nbsp;(Talk)]]</sup> 20:21, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

I am sorry, but you obviously have NO idea of the world of show business, actors and their headshots, or entertainment law. The file (photo)is MY property. The fact a photographer was hired to take the photo does not preclude MY ownership. [[User:Ninety3rd|Ninety3rd]] ([[User talk:Ninety3rd|talk]]) 06:25, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
: If a photographer was hired, then the photographer is the copyright holder. You need to obtain permission from the photographer. --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 10:29, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
::Actually, that may fall under [http://web.law.columbia.edu/keep-your-copyrights/copyrights/works-made-hire "work for hire"] and the photographer may not be the copyright holder then. I guess it would depend on the exact details of the hire contract, though. So we'll need some assurance that the copyright was transferred.[[meta:User:Jo-Jo Eumerus|Jo-Jo Eumerus]] ([[User talk:Jo-Jo Eumerus|talk]], [[Special:CentralAuth/Jo-Jo Eumerus|contributions]]) 16:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
:::The photograph only counts as a "work for hire" if the photographer was an employee of the uploader. In most cases, the photographer is instead a contractor of the uploader, and in those cases, the photograph is not a work for hire. It is typically too much trouble to sign an employment contract, go through a lot of bureaucracy and other things just so that the picture counts as a work for hire. --[[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 17:12, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was: delete. — ξxplicit 01:20, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
File:Ram Kamal Mukherjee Picture.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Two copies of the same file. Sourced to Google, without evidence of permission. The uploader claims to be the subject of the photograph (Ram Kamal Mukherjee). As there is no evidence that the uploader is the photographer (Vickky Idnaani), the uploader needs to ensure that the photographer provides evidence of permission. --Stefan2 (talk) 09:27, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: convert to fair use. — ξxplicit 01:20, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Beparoyaa Poster.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 05:03, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gurinder Seagal.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 05:03, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Debojit Saha Picture.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).
  • Looks like a screenshot of a TV programme, and the text Aakash Aath Channel's Programme on the file information page also suggests so. No evidence that the uploader is the photographer. Stefan2 (talk) 09:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 03:03, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 03:03, 24 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

File:Benton Jennings.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

I am sorry, but you obviously have NO idea of the world of show business, actors and their headshots, or entertainment law. The file (photo)is MY property. The fact a photographer was hired to take the photo does not preclude MY ownership. Ninety3rd (talk) 06:25, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If a photographer was hired, then the photographer is the copyright holder. You need to obtain permission from the photographer. --Stefan2 (talk) 10:29, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, that may fall under "work for hire" and the photographer may not be the copyright holder then. I guess it would depend on the exact details of the hire contract, though. So we'll need some assurance that the copyright was transferred.Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:54, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The photograph only counts as a "work for hire" if the photographer was an employee of the uploader. In most cases, the photographer is instead a contractor of the uploader, and in those cases, the photograph is not a work for hire. It is typically too much trouble to sign an employment contract, go through a lot of bureaucracy and other things just so that the picture counts as a work for hire. --Stefan2 (talk) 17:12, 18 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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