Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions (alt)

This page lists all requests filed or identified as potentially controversial which are currently under discussion.

This list is also available in a discussion-link-first format and in table format. 62 discussions have been relisted.

November 25, 2024

• Capital Cities (band) → Capital Cities (duo) – (Discuss) – They're a duo, so shouldn't the article name say so? Yes, I know WP:DUO says otherwise, but by now there is way more precedent for using (duo) where applicable and I think it's silly to call a duo a "band". I also think WP:DUO should be rewritten accordingly. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• 1. Wiener Neustädter SC (2008) → 1. Wiener Neustädter SC – (Discuss) – 1. Wiener Neustädter SC currently redirects to 1. Wiener Neustädter SC (1908). Looking at WikiNav, I think readers who arrive at 1. Wiener Neustädter SC (1908) are almost always looking for the 2008 club instead. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:39, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Green Fingers → Green Fingers (1947 film) – (Discuss) – I don't think the presence of a space is a sufficient disambiguator. Redirect Green Fingers to Greenfingers (disambiguation) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:38, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• CloudPets → 2017 CloudPets data breach – (Discuss) – This page mostly covers the 2017 data breach, and not the toy itself. And searching up “CloudPets” on both Google News and Google Scholar only shows results related to the data breach. Sussywidget (talk) 18:04, 18 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:37, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• List of international visits made by Nicola Sturgeon → List of international trips made by Nicola Sturgeon – (Discuss) – As per WP: CONSISTENT, in line with articles at Category:Lists of diplomatic trips which this article is a member of. – robertsky (talk) 13:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 17:07, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Portrait of Napoleon III → Portrait of Napoleon III (Flandrin) – (Discuss) – Disambiguate, Portrait of Napoleon III (Winterhalter) already exists and is more famous. Gryffindor (talk) 15:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Expectation of privacy (United States) → Reasonable expectation of privacy – (Discuss) – Adjusted proposal per the outcome of the one above. This legal doctrine originated with the Katz ruling in 1967 and subsequent cases using that as a precedent have adopted the more precise phrasing "reasonable expectation of privacy". Also, the article's text as developed over the years focuses on the precise legal doctrine rather than a vague value. Note that this particular proposal would require a round-robin move due to an old mistargeted redirect, which I have the permissions to do. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 15:03, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Template:Thessaloniki Metro → Template:Thessaloniki Metro Development Plan – (Discuss) – This template should be for the current-existing system (N. Sid. Stathmos - Nea Elvetia / Mikra). This route map provides a lot of unnecessary information re stations that are not even confirmed. Proposed new route map can be found on my talk page sandbox but feel free to comment/suggest alternatives. Pinging relevant people for comment/input: @Minoa @Sv1xv. Michail (blah) 13:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Shiv Sena (2022–present) → Shiv Sena – (Discuss) – Currently, there are two separate pages—'Shiv Sena' and 'Shiv Sena (2022–Present)'—dedicated to the same political party. The party's leadership was disputed in 2022, but its existence remained unchanged. No reliable media refers to Shiv Sena as pre- or post-2022, making the current split unnecessary and inconsistent with how the party is described in sources. For additional clarity, please refer to the discussion on the talk page. I propose merging the 'Shiv Sena (2022–Present)' page into the main 'Shiv Sena' article, with developments post-2022 included as a subsection to provide a comprehensive historical narrative.

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AbhiSuryawanshi (talk) 09:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

• • Shiv Sena → Shiv Sena (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
• Rashid Ṭaliʽa → Rashid Ṭaliʽ – (Discuss) – There is no "a" at the end of his name. [1] [2] Makeandtoss (talk) 08:31, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Besant Nagar, Chennai → Besant Nagar – (Discuss) – WP:CONCISE. DareshMohan (talk) 07:47, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Bharat Sanchar Nigam Limited → BSNL – (Discuss) – Per Google Ngram and WP:UCRN, WP:PRECISE, WP:CONCISE. We simply call it by its short name BSNL not by the full name. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ ^🗿 03:57, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Tata Consultancy Services → TCS – (Discuss) – Per WP:PRECISE, WP:CONCISE, and to match IBM which is also a short name. And WP:UCRN per Google Ngram. Quite obvious reason to move it to TCS. – 𝙰𝚔𝚜𝚑𝚊𝚍𝚎𝚟™ ^🗿 03:45, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
  • TCS → TCS (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
• Death of Zvi Kogan → Murder of Zvi Kogan – (Discuss) – 178.81.55.110 (talk) 03:30, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• High potential → High potential (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – High potential should WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT at Intellectual giftedness due to page views [3], [4] [5] [6]. Theparties (talk) 21:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 03:18, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Adi Keyh Subregion → Adi Keyh subregion – (Discuss) – These Category:Subregions of Eritrea do not have "Subregion" as part of their proper name (nor "Administration" on a few). The source for most or all of these just lists the proper name part, without the generic appended. Dicklyon (talk) 01:58, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Adi Quala Subregion → Adi Quala subregion
  • Adi Tekelezan Subregion → Adi Tekelezan subregion
  • Adobha Subregion → Adobha subregion
  • Afabet Subregion → Afabet subregion
  • Akurdet Subregion → Akurdet subregion
  • Are'eta Subregion → Are'eta subregion
  • Areza Subregion → Areza subregion
  • Asmat Subregion → Asmat subregion
  • Assab Subregion → Assab subregion
  • Barentu Subregion → Barentu subregion
  • Berikh Subregion → Berikh subregion
  • Central Denkalya Subregion → Central Denkalya subregion
  • Dahlak Subregion → Dahlak subregion
  • Debarwa Subregion → Debarwa subregion
  • Dekemhare Subregion → Dekemhare subregion
  • Dghe Subregion → Dghe subregion
  • Elabered Subregion → Elabered subregion
  • Foro Subregion → Foro subregion
  • Forto Subregion → Forto subregion
  • Geleb Subregion → Geleb subregion
  • Ghala Nefhi Subregion → Ghala Nefhi subregion
  • Ghela'elo Subregion → Ghela'elo subregion
  • Ghinda Subregion → Ghinda subregion
  • Gogne Subregion → Gogne subregion
  • Goluj Subregion → Goluj subregion
  • Habero Subregion → Habero subregion
  • Hagaz Subregion → Hagaz subregion
  • Halhal Subregion → Halhal subregion
  • Hamelmalo Subregion → Hamelmalo subregion
  • Haykota Subregion → Haykota subregion
  • Karura Subregion → Karura subregion
  • Keren Subregion → Keren subregion
  • Kerkebet Subregion → Kerkebet subregion
  • Kudo Be'ur Subregion → Kudo Be'ur subregion
  • Logo Anseba Subregion → Logo Anseba subregion
  • Mai-Aini Subregion → Mai-Aini subregion
  • Mai-Mne Subregion → Mai-Mne subregion
  • Massawa Subregion → Massawa subregion
  • Mendefera Subregion → Mendefera subregion
  • Mensura Subregion → Mensura subregion
  • Mogolo Subregion → Mogolo subregion
  • Molki Subregion → Molki subregion
  • North Eastern Asmara Administration → North Eastern Asmara administration
  • North Eastern Subregion → North Eastern subregion
  • North Western Administration → North Western administration
  • Omhajer Subregion → Omhajer subregion
  • Segheneyti Subregion → Segheneyti subregion
  • Sela Subregion → Sela subregion
  • Senafe Subregion → Senafe subregion
  • Serejaka Subregion → Serejaka subregion
  • Shambuko Subregion → Shambuko subregion
  • She'eb Subregion → She'eb subregion
  • South Eastern Asmara Administration → South Eastern Asmara administration
  • South Eastern Subregion → South Eastern subregion
  • South Western Asmara Administration → South Western Asmara administration
  • South Western Subregion → South Western subregion
  • Teseney Subregion → Teseney subregion
  • Tiyo Subregion → Tiyo subregion
  • Tserona Subregion → Tserona subregion
  • Upper Gash Subregion → Upper Gash subregion
• Pablo Escobar, The Drug Lord → Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal – (Discuss) – Netflix title is "Pablo Escobar, el patrón del mal" (With that stylisation, is also the original stylisation). So I think we can consider that the new international title. "The drug lord" is also a very poor translation of "El patrón del Mal" Tazelaar (talk) 09:56, 25 October 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 12:17, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Alpha3031 (t • c) 01:01, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Zevallos → Zevallos, Guadeloupe – (Discuss) – WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC between this article and Zevallos (surname). See Talk:Guenette, Guadeloupe#Requested move 18 November 2024 Theparties (talk) 00:18, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
• Bicchugatti: Chapter 1 − Dalvayi Dange → Bicchugatti – (Discuss) – Per WP:COMMON NAME, name per most sources. Chapter 1 and especially the Dalvayi Dange part seem to be tagline, see WP:TAGLINE. All of the sources on this page use Bicchugatti and one uses Bicchugatti: Chapter 1. Most of the reviews don't use the full name: [7] [8]. [9] review uses the full name only in the body of text but not in the article title. DareshMohan (talk) 00:00, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

November 24, 2024

• Racial views of Donald Trump → Accusations of racism against Donald Trump – (Discuss) – given that no one else has proposed a title and the discussion has been going on for days without a result, I take the advice of Riposte97 as good; since I'm the OP, I'm in favor of changing the title. JacktheBrown (talk) 23:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:41, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Kavin Raj → Kavin (actor) – (Discuss) – Revert undiscussed move. Kavin is the common name. [10] Other than these 5 sources [11], all sources use Kavin including all of the sources on this article. DareshMohan (talk) 23:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Imperial Army (Holy Roman Empire) → Imperial Army (Holy Roman Emperor) – (Discuss) – The current title is ambiguous. The Army of the Holy Roman Empire is often (indeed, usually) called the "Imperial Army", making "(Holy Roman Empire)" an insufficient disambiguator. The proposed title is not my first choice, but it reflects the distinction between the German terminology Kaiserliche (of the emperor) and Reichs (of the empire). Srnec (talk) 22:23, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Don't Worry Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking for Her Hand in the Snow) → Don't Worry Kyoko (Mummy's Only Looking for a Hand in the Snow) – (Discuss) – The title of the song is "a" Hand in the Snow, not "Her Hand in the Snow". I understand that an early version used "her" but that is not the final title. Elephantranges (talk) 18:32, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 06:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:45, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Tatar (disambiguation) → Tatar – (Discuss) – This adjective currently redirects to the plural meaning a people, but there's also the language, and it's common to see such adjectives disambiguated. From the topic area, vaguely similar examples may include Turkic, where readers proceed to both the languages and the peoples; Turkish, most people proceed to language; Kipchak, readers visit people but also language and another major topic. Page history for the redirect that would need to be replaced here indicates this was last attempted in 2017, and last discussed in 2005. There was a recent discussion at Talk:Tatar language (disambiguation) where there was no opposition to this idea, at the same time, it wasn't the primary focus there, and this requires disambiguating over 700 links, so it merits a discussion of its own. --Joy (talk) 18:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 18:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:40, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Luis De Los Santos → Luis de los Santos (infielder) – (Discuss) – I'm not sure why this article is formatted as Luis De Los Santos when Baseball-Reference capitalizes his name the traditional way. If you want to argue that that's how MLB.com capitalizes his name, I'd argue that they use the same miscapitalization for the pitcher whose Wikipedia article title is appropriately capitalized. Alternatively, it could be moved to Luis de los Santos (third baseman) or Luis de los Santos (baseball, born 1998). There should probably also be a disambiguation page at Luis de los Santos because there are three people with the name, each with similarly low levels of notoriety. Dennis C. Abrams (talk) 16:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:36, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• High Potential (TV series) → High Potential – (Discuss) – WP:DIFFCAPS and WP:PRIMARYTOPIC because of page views [12] [13] [14] [15]. Wiki Nav shows considerable usage. It is the only article with the title High Potential in the High potential disambiguation page. Theparties (talk) 18:49, 17 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:34, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Paraná → Parana – (Discuss) – Since the disambiguation uses both Paraná and Paranã in its articles and since there are unaccented entries, it is better to use an unaccented page as the title. Theparties (talk) 19:22, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Elsbeth → Elsbeth (name) – (Discuss) – The TV series is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC based on pageviews [16] [17], [18], [19], [20], [21], [22], [23], [24], [25], [26], only the main character of the series has considerable page views [27]. Wiki Nav also shows considerable usage. Theparties (talk) 17:52, 17 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:07, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Elsbeth (TV series) → Elsbeth
• 2023–24 X²O Badkamers Trofee → 2023–24 X²O Badkamers Trophy – (Discuss) – See the discussion here on this talk page. Hg03u (talk) 17:37, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Interstate 285 → Interstate 285 (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – Also, make Interstate 285 a redirect to Interstate 285 (Georgia), as it is considered the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. 2600:1700:6180:6290:3DD7:40C7:E83C:2546 (talk) 16:31, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Prince Pedro Augusto of Saxe-Coburg and Braganza → Prince Peter August of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha – (Discuss) – Consistency with his three brothers, Prince August Leopold of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Prince Joseph Ferdinand of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, and Prince Ludwig Gaston of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. This article was recently moved to the current title on the basis of "common name",[28] but none of the authority control links[29][30][31][32][33][34] use this name, indicating that it is not the common name. Per WP:RMUM, since there was previous discussion of the article title (in 2012), it should not have been moved unilaterally. DrKay (talk) 15:19, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Korean decimal classification → Korean Decimal Classification – (Discuss) – bringing the title in line with titles of similar classification systems and with the usage within the article itself Literally Satan (talk) 21:32, 19 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 2409:408C:1398:B1E2:0:0:2984:58A4 (talk) 14:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Corporatocracy → Corpocracy – (Discuss) – "Corporatocracy" sounds pretty awkward, thus some people started to use "Corpocracy" instead these days. 67.209.130.137 (talk) 12:54, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• The Eight Great Events in the Life of Buddha → Eight Great Events – (Discuss) – Per WP:CONCISE, WP:THE. "Eight Great Events" cannot possibly refer to anything else. see also Four Noble Truths ―Howard • 🌽³³ 12:06, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism/Manual of Style → Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism/Style advice – (Discuss) – Same as all the other wikiproject style advice essays (except a couple with more specific names). The present page title is misleading, as this is not part of the Wikipedia Manual of Style and is not a guideline, nor has it been through a WP:PROPOSAL process to become one. This move will be WP:CONSISTENT with prior moves of non-MoS pages that had "Manual of Style" or "MoS" in their names, most recently at WT:WikiProject Astronomy/Style advice#Requested move 26 October 2024, though there are many prior examples (a topically pertinent one is the essay formerly misnamed "WP:Manual of Style/New religious movements") . The potential for mischief with such "Manual of Style" page names (and creating and advertising inappropriate "MOS:FOO" shortcuts for them) is high, because editors who encounter them "cited" in talk-page arguments are highly likely to trust that they are MoS guidelines with the authority of community consensus acceptance, instead of being pre-PROPOSAL essays with only a small number of editors behind them and very little broader editorial community input. The advice in the page might even be good (though some of it is a bit ranty and much of it ironically has not been complying with the rest of MoS, which I cleaned up in one section). But it is not (yet?) part of MoS and should not masquerade as one. "MOS" shortcuts for this are being addressed at RfD, as was the MOS:ASTRO one for the astronomy style essay.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  08:02, 24 November 2024 (UTC); RfD link added: 08:16, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Keiki-dō → Keiki Province – (Discuss) – I think "Provinces" may be more appropriate, but still not sure. I moved all the other Korea prefecture pages from "-dō" to " Prefecture" following the category name, but @robertsky pointed out " Province" may be more appropriate. "Prefecture" has kind of a loose definition, per Prefecture and Prefectures of Japan. The nature of prefectures in various countries differs; it's not really clear to me how these differ from provinces, esp given that colonial Korea was governed differently from Japan. Both "prefecture" and "province" seem to be variously attested to for Korean provinces (as well as the use of transliterations of Korean names for Korean places during the colonial period). English terminology for Korean history is notoriously inconsistent. Reading Prefectures of Japan, it seems like "道" is also used for prefectures, but that doesn't necessarily guarantee that it would extend to Korea. Provinces of Japan seems to suggest that Japan itself adopted the prefecture system in the late 19th century, but that doesn't necessarily cover Korea. However, recent RS on the colonial period seem to use "province" for this period (although these all seem to write from Korea-centric perspectives; using Korean-language terms for concepts during the colonial period). * [35] * [36] * [37] * [38] Edit: more sources (see below for my analysis of the situation) * [39] * [40] * [41] * [42] *[43] In short, I think there's a WP:COMMONNAME argument to use "Province" instead of "Prefecture". Either of the two is certainly better than the previous "-dō". seefooddiet (talk) 05:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 07:25, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Chūseihoku Prefecture → Chūseihoku Province
  • Chūseinan Prefecture → Chūseinan Province
  • Heian'nan Prefecture → Heian'nan Province
  • Heianhoku Prefecture → Heianhoku Province
  • Kankyōhoku Prefecture → Kankyōhoku Province
  • Kankyōnan Prefecture → Kankyōnan Province
  • Keishōnan Prefecture → Keishōnan Province
  • Keishōhoku Prefecture → Keishōhoku Province
  • Kōgen Prefecture → Kōgen Province
  • Kōkai Prefecture → Kōkai Province
  • Zenrahoku Prefecture → Zenrahoku Province
  • Zenranan Prefecture → Zenranan Province
• Rowling → Rowling (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – The clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC is the author of Harry Potter, so Rowling should just redirect to J.K. Rowling. Edit: For those asking for proof, per the page views tool and Google Trends Joanne Rowling is far more known than Prime Minister Bill. Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 06:14, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Comac C909 → Comac ARJ21 – (Discuss) – The article was previously moved from "Comac ARJ21" to "Comac C909", citing sources that claim Coma "renamed" the aircraft. However, after searching in Chinese sources, I found that the information which claim the aircraft have been renamed is actually incorrected, and what actually happened was an extra commercial name being added onto the aircraft model, and thus it was simply a rebranding attempt that try to attach a new brand name onto the aircraft. Therefore the previous move of the Wikipedia article without the new name being established seems improper and should be reversed. Sources: [44][zh] [45][zh] [46][en] C933103 (talk) 04:11, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• LGBTQ topics in Chile → LGBTQ people in Chile – (Discuss) – # For the current page (LGBTQ topics in Chile), there are two pages we can move: LGBTQ people in Chile, consistent with Talk:LGBTQ people in Mexico#Merge proposal, or LGBTQ in Chile, which is a mix of WP:CONSUB and WP:STATUSQUO. # I'm also asking to retarget either (see exclusive or) LGBT in Chile to LGBTQ in Chile (dab), if this page is kept to keep it consistent, or LGBTQ in Chile to the current page, per WP:STATUSQUO, WP:BROAD, and consistency, if this page is moved. * Context: Lewisguile moved this page (formerly LGBT in Chile under WP:CONSUB reasoning, however LGBT page was never moved to LGBTQ topics, just LGBTQ. 10 days later I created LGBT in Chile (disambiguation) and moved it to LGBTQ in Chile (disambiguation) to leave that as a redirect, however LGBTQ in Chile didn't exist and it was moved per WP:MALPLACED dab in a clean up edit. Then I asked a speedy rename (I should have specified WP:UNDOMOVE but for me it was pretty clear and simple that there was inconsistency) which turned into a RM. * Comments: However, just as noted in Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 26#LGBT in Mexico (see also the USA section there) and constantly argued by Raladic in all recent RMs, this issue should be talked about in WT:LGBTQ+, but I beg it different, each place ("Foos" in wiki jargon) should be treated differently. Examples: Poland and Israel AfDs resulted in redirect to the "LGBT history in Foo", while California AfD resulted in redirect to "LGBTQ rights in Foo" (see also WP:2DABS). Not every 'culture' or 'rights' article is structurally substantial enough when compared to an 'history' article for example, and vis-à-vis. Using LGBTQ as a noun is also debatable, similarly Category:Transgender was recently moved to Category:Transgender topics because of this. There's also an ongoing RM: Talk:LGBT history in Georgia#Proposed merge of LGBT rights in Georgia into LGBT history in Georgia and Talk:LGBTQ topics in Singaporean literature#Requested move 24 November 2024. And there are more undiscussed articles: LGBTQ in Guatemala and LGBTQ in Puerto Rico. Whether they are grammatically correct or not, they are obviously ambiguous and that's why a DAB is justified. However, if the BROAD article lists all the DAB already lists, then could a merge be made? I guess it would depend of the WP:SIZE or its navigationability. An RfC can be opened, but I think this discussion deserves a closer look. --MikutoH ^talk! 04:08, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
  • LGBTQ in Chile → LGBTQ in Chile (disambiguation)
• LGBTQ topics in Singaporean literature → LGBTQ literature in Singapore – (Discuss) – Consistent with special:prefixindex/LGBT literature in (plus WP:CONSUB of LGBTQ). --MikutoH ^talk! 03:52, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Paranã → Paranã, Tocantins – (Discuss) – Insufficient disambiguation with Paraná. Theparties (talk) 02:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Cremastra ‹ u — c › 03:03, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Kentarō Itō → Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1974) – (Discuss) – Insufficient disambiguation with Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997). Kentaro Ito, Kentarō Itō, Kentaro Ito (actor), and Kentaro Ito (film actor) should be a disambiguation page. Further discussion at Talk:Kentaro Ito (actor, born 1997)#Requested move 16 November 2024. Theparties (talk) 23:58, 16 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 00:58, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
• Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion → Angels (Neon Genesis Evangelion) – (Discuss) – While a small distinction, it is clear that not all Evangelion angels are actually named after real-life angels. Adam and Lilith, for example, are not actually angels as Christians know them, with Lilith going as far as to be a demon. Given this fact, calling them actual "angels" would be incomplete, and it is better to refer to them as "a fictional race of beings called angels", hence the change away from a natural disambiguation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 00:38, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

November 23, 2024

• Surtitles → Supertitles – (Discuss) – This article is currently at a trademarked name for the method. Unsure why it isn't using the original created name for the process made years earlier that is also not a trademarked name. Article also omitted mention of the original creator and only listed the guy who made said trademark as the developer until I changed it just now, so that's strange in itself. See some examples of sources at Sonya Friedman to see term usage and creation, with there also being many, many other uses of supertitles across news articles in the past several decades with a simple Newspapers.com search. Surtitles is definitely a notable trademarked term, but it is also notable in a way where it can exist in its own separate article on the specific manner of its usage. This article should be the overview article for the term supertitles and all of its history and usages, not just what it is in Canada. Silverseren^C 23:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC) 22:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Raladic (talk) 23:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Larries → Larry Stylinson – (Discuss) – Since it's been almost two and a half years since the no consensus close of the previous move request, I thought it might be time to bring this discussion back up again. A good article title is consistent, and all the conspiracy theory articles that I have examined (see Category:Conspiracy theories) use the title of the theory, not the believers. For example, there is no anti-vaxxer article; there is only a Anti-vaccine activism article. There is no Flat-earther article; there is only a Modern flat Earth beliefs article. Other ships (see Category:Slash fiction) also use the name of the ship, not the fandom, albeit this is a unique topic in that it is about real people. In the last discussion, I heard that this article is somehow different in that the scholarship is more about the believers than the theory, but that isn't exactly true. For one, there is also scholarship documenting the actual theory. But also, the psychology of the believers is also central to other conspiracy theory articles (e.g. Modern flat Earth beliefs § Sociological explanations for counterfactual beliefs), which all still use the name of the theory. Additionally, "Larry Stylinson" is certainly more precise. "Larries" could potentially refer to multiple "Larry"s or "Larrie"s, or, as the ngram viewer shows, industrial/mining equipment. Although one could argue that the ship is the more common interpretation, it certainly hasn't been historically (and we aim to avoid WP:RECENTISM), and changing the title to "Larry Stylinson" would remove all possible ambiguity. BappleBusiness^[talk] 22:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Indiana University–Purdue University Columbus → Indiana University Columbus – (Discuss) – All the official articles describing IUPUCs disbanding and IU Columbus's formation refer to it as a transition or a rebranding, implying that IU Columbus isn't a new institution to replace the now defunct IUPUC, but that IU Columbus is just the new name and branding of the institution formerly known as IUPUC. Finchwidget (talk) 20:09, 16 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 22:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Declaration of the Independence of New Zealand → He Whakaputanga – (Discuss) – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:CONCISE. The declaration is overwhelmingly referred to as He Whakaputanga in recent reliable sources, with the current title being more of a descriptive term than its actual name. Turnagra (talk) 21:12, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Rana Muhammad Afzal Khan → Rana Afzal – (Discuss) – Per sources present in the article, the individual's common name being used is Rana Afzal. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 18:27, 15 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Alpha3031 (t • c) 21:08, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Tajiks of Xinjiang → Chinese Tajiks – (Discuss) – In previous discussions over a decade and a half ago, the main points of contention were: "Which name(s) is more commonly used in reliable sources (i.e. WP:COMMONNAME)?" and "Which name(s) is appropriate, given that 'Tajik' is a misnomer because the group is actually ethnic Pamiris?" Since the discussions in 2009, scholarly articles and books have generally been split in usage of "Tajiks of Xinjiang" and "Chinese Tajiks". Neither name solves the second problem, and adding "Pamiris" in parentheses isn't necessary, in my opinion. The group itself has a distinct history and culture, and it is not merely a situation of Pamiris being on a different side of an international border (i.e. not Tajikistan). The Chinese government uses the term "Chinese Tajiks" in English to distinguish the group from Tajiks and Tajikistanis in China. It's also worth noting that members of this ethnic group have travelled and made homes elsewhere in China, so it doesn't make sense to have an article title that limits them to one specific part of the country. This article isn't about Tajiks or Pamiris who live in Xinjiang, but a distinct ethnicity that originated from the region. The article should therefore be renamed and moved to "Chinese Tajiks". Yue🌙 01:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 17:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Alpha3031 (t • c) 21:06, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Death in Paradise → Death in Paradise (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – The TV series is highly likely to be the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The only other "Death in Paradise" (exact title) with an article is a novel, one part of a larger series, with less apparent cultural impact. Google Trends suggests virtually zero worldwide interest in the novel, the TV show's article has been viewed well over fourteen million times and has recieved 1,360 edits, compared to 29,106 views and just 18 revisions for the novel, WikiNav shows that the vast majority of visitors to the disambiguation page subsequently view the TV series article, and Google search results exclusively refer to the show. 2A00:23C6:8809:A301:A1F5:F6A:D604:E64F (talk) 20:43, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Death in Paradise (TV series) → Death in Paradise
• Polish minority in the Czech Republic → Poles in the Czech Republic – (Discuss) – WP:CONSISTENT with “Poles in X country” articles. Corresponding move request at Talk:Polish minority in Ireland#Requested move 23 November 2024. Theparties (talk) 20:23, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Polish minority in Russia → Poles in Russia
• Porpentine → Porpentine (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – Striking and amending belowGame designer is not the primary topic but the only topic; other than the dab, no other mainspace page has "Porpentine" in the title. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). JJP_Master (she/they) 19:59, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Porpentine (game designer) → Porpentine
• South of France → South of France (song) – (Discuss) – "Southern France" is the clear primary topic for the term "South of France" by long-term significance. Incoming links have not been updated following the recent undiscussed change of this page from redirect to article, leaving many incoming links pointing to the wrong page. We should move this page to "South of France (song)" and restore "South of France" as a primary redirect to "Southern France". Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 19:40, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Red lines in the Russo-Ukrainian War → Threatening statements in the Russo-Ukrainian War – (Discuss) – The name of this article and the use of "red lines" elsewhere in this article is misleading and a personal feeling of the article creator. Looking at Red lines in the Russo-Ukrainian War#Russian red lines the table includes 24 supposed "red lines" with links to sources included. The sources for these 24 "red lines" do not at all support the claim that the 24 items are "red lines": they are simply "threats", "demands" or other statements from Russian officials, and the term "red line" is not even mentioned by Russian officials. The article begins by an explanation of the term "red line" but then it goes on to list any "threat" or other "demand" as a "red line" without any support for the claim that it is a "red line". It is as if any news article that included the words "red line" is used as a source. A correct source would include a direct quote from a Russian official that includes the words "red line" -- otherwise it is just a "threat", "demand", or other statement, etc. Along with the article name all the "red lines" not supported by primary sources, direct quotes from officials, etc. should be changed to "threats" or other more accurate words. Examples of misleading use of term "red line": * Note 46: ** Used as a source for "red line": "Not to supply Patriot Missile system" ** The source does not support the claim of a "red line" at all, not even a simple threat, it only includes a statement from Russian official. All it includes is: "Former Russian president Dmitry Medvedev warned NATO against providing Ukraine with Patriots and denounced the Atlantic alliance as a “criminal entity” for delivering arms to what he called “Ukrainian fanatics.”" * Note 36: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-warns-west-russia-will-strike-harder-if-longer-range-missiles-supplied-2022-06-05/ ** Used as a source for "red line": "No long-range missiles" ** This article does not even mention the term "red line". It simply includes threats from Vladimir Putin such as: "If longer-range missiles are supplied, "we will strike at those targets which we have not yet been hitting," Putin told the Rossiya-1 state television channel in an interview." * Note 39: https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-tanks-macedonia-thanks/31976738.html ** Used as a source for "red line": "No supplying old Soviet tanks to Ukraine" ** The source only lists a vague statement from Russian official: "On August 3, Russia said it considered North Macedonia's donation of T-72 tanks to Ukraine "a major mistake that will only help the criminal actions of the Kyiv regime."" * Note 48: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/05/20/europe/russia-warning-f-16-jets-ukraine-intl/index.html ** Used as a source for "red line": "No F-16 fighter jets" ** The source lists only a garden-variety threat: "Russia’s deputy foreign minister has warned Western countries of “enormous risks” if Ukraine is provided with F-16 fighter jets, Russian state media TASS reported Saturday." * Note 32: https://www.evelyn.com/insights-and-events/insights/will-markets-take-the-strain-from-the-russia-ukraine-crisis/ ** Used as a source for "red line": "NATO troops and missiles to be withdrawn from Russia's western border", "NATO to stop eastward expansion and reverses back to position in 1997". ** The source does not support this claim, it only lists "demands" of Vladimir Putin along with the word "red line": "Putin has issued three key demands to Western powers, marking his red lines in negotiations. First, he demanded that Ukraine should never be allowed to join NATO. Second, the organisation should halt its eastward expansion and roll back to its position in 1997." There are many more similar sources that do not support the claims in this article. If these listed "red lines" are supposed to be "red lines" based on the sources cited then any simple threat, demand, etc would be a "red line". It is as if this article is trying to conflate "red lines" and any threatening statement from a Russian official. Bluikkso (talk) 18:20, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• First battle of Öland (1564) → First Battle of Öland (1564) – (Discuss) – Apologies to my fellow habitual decappers, but I looked around a bit after Talk:First Battle of Panipat#Requested move 25 October 2024 and found that PadFoot accurately described a de facto situation on Wikipedia: enumerated battle articles on Wikipedia overwhelmingly use "Battle" in uppercase, at about a 40:1 ratio. These 13 are the only exceptions I found. It may be best to establish complete consistency. Note that First Battle of Przasnysz exists and is uppercase (and First battle of Przasnysz is a redirect to it), but there is no Third battle of Dongola or First battle of Bàu Bàng (regardless of letter case). I just created Second Battle of Chamkaur and Second battle of Chamkaur as redirects to Battle of Chamkaur, and First Battle of Khan Yunis is a redirect to Siege of Khan Yunis (and I just created the corresponding First battle of Khan Yunis). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 03:34, 13 November 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Toadspike [Talk] 17:48, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • First battle of Tembien → First Battle of Tembien
  • Second battle of Tembien → Second Battle of Tembien
  • First battle of Dongola → First Battle of Dongola
  • Second battle of Dongola → Second Battle of Dongola
  • Fourth battle of Dongola → Fourth Battle of Dongola
  • First battle of Solskjel → First Battle of Solskjel
  • Second battle of Solskjel → Second Battle of Solskjel
  • First battle of Chamkaur → First Battle of Chamkaur
  • Second battle of Bàu Bàng → Second Battle of Bàu Bàng
  • Second battle of Przasnysz → Second Battle of Przasnysz
  • Second battle of Khan Yunis → Second Battle of Khan Yunis
  • Third battle of Khan Yunis → Third Battle of Khan Yunis
• Melange (fictional drug) → Melange (Dune) – (Discuss) – Without commenting on whether the title should be "Spice", it should be moved to the proper disambiguation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:03, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 16:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Polish minority in Ireland → Poles in Ireland – (Discuss) – The term 'Poles in Ireland' is more straight forward than 'Polish minority in Ireland' and would bring the title inline with all other '[Nationality/Ethnicity] in Ireland' pages as listed here. 2001:BB6:B84C:CF00:DEE:3283:8F7A:3C9F (talk) 16:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Superstack → Superstack (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – The Inco Superstack, commonly known as Superstack, is the primary topic here. Both other topics at the dabpage are minor WP:DABMENTIONs and not particularly notable. Retarget Superstack to the primary topic. 162 etc. (talk) 16:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 09:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 16:02, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Penn-Can Mall → Driver's Village – (Discuss) – Historical mall articles usually take the current name if there is currently another business in the building. For instance, NetPark Tampa Bay not East Lake Square Mall, Wonderland Village not Wonderland Mall, et al. The only exceptions seem to be if the property is demolished or abandoned, such as Forest Fair Mall. As Driver's Village is the current name of the mall's former occupant, I think the precedent of NetPark Tampa Bay should be applied here. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 15:51, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Mahbubur Rahman (politician) → Mahbubur Rahman (politician, born 1940) – (Discuss) – Resolve partial disamiguation tangle. Mahbubur Rahman (umpire) could also reasonable be called a cricketer. Disambiguating by the presence or spelling of "Md." versus "Muhammad" is wrong since that's just an honorific, not part of the name. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:47, 9 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 15:50, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Md. Mahbubur Rahman → Md. Mahbubur Rahman (politician, born 1954)
  • Mahbubur Rahman (cricketer) → Mahbubur Rahman (cricketer, born 1969)
  • Muhammad Mahbubur Rahman → ?
  • Mahbubur Rahman (general) → Mahbubur Rahman (general, born 1962)
• Yifei Ye → Ye Yifei – (Discuss) – I want to move the article based on the Chinese name format where the surname placed first. In motorsport, he always called by Yifei Ye than Ye Yifei, but to make it consistent with other Chinese figures, and people his name has to be Ye Yifei. It's not Zedong Mao, it's Mao Zedong for example. Originally it supposed to be Ye Yifei but someone change it to Ye Yife, I want to revert it but cannot. Thfeeder (talk) 15:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Nīþ → Níð – (Discuss) – Níð (ON) is the dominant spelling in scholarly articles [910 results on Google Scholar], with nīþ (OE) being less common [30 results on Google Scholar]. The article mostly covers níð in ON society, and even uses the ON spelling about as much as the OE. Níð is primarily attested in ON contexts, and the ON spelling is both more common and better fits the article's content. Masskito (talk) 13:57, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Richard O'Donnell → Richard O'Donnell (footballer) – (Discuss) – I do not think that the footballer is the PRIMARYTOPIC, there are two other articles about people with the same name, so we should disambiguate and then turn the base page into a dab. GiantSnowman 13:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Richard O'Donnell (disambiguation) → Richard O'Donnell
• Karimganj → Sribhumi (town) – (Discuss) – The town has been renamed, and notified to public through Official X channel. (News1)   Jor langneh (Talk) 11:34, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Karimganj district → Sribhumi district – (Discuss) – The district has been renamed, and notified to public through Official X channel. (News1)   Jor langneh (Talk) 11:27, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Davy Burke → Davy Burke (football manager) – (Discuss) – Insufficient disambiguation with Dave Burke. Similar to David Burke. See Talk:Dave Burke (Australian footballer)#Requested move 23 November 2024. Theparties (talk) 10:42, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Far East prisoners of war → Compensation for the Far East prisoners of war – (Discuss) – See my comment above or just glance at the article - sigh. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Hip hop music → Hip-hop – (Discuss) – This RM seeks to address two issues with the current title. First, music is an unnecessary disambiguator. Prior consensus, WP:IMPLICIT or otherwise, has already determined the music genre to be the primary topic, as Hip hop and its hyphenated counterpart already redirect to this page. If editors determine that this is in fact not the primary topic, then Hip hop should not redirect here and Hip hop (disambiguation) should be moved. Among the topics listed on the disambiguation page, Hip hop (culture) is the only other real contender for the primary topic. Pageviews for the past 365 days indicate that interest in the music genre article trumps that of the culture article by ten times, so it isn't even close. Related templates and categories such as Template:Hip hop and Category:Hip hop do not use a "music" qualifier, nor do most sources, so there is no evidence "music" is a necessary part of the term. Simply "hip hop" is more concise. Upon further investigation, it appears the article Hip hop was moved unilaterally to Hip hop (culture) in May 2022, but this actually gives us stronger evidence. Inspecting the pageviews before and after the move, we see that the culture article averaged around 1000 views per day before the move (green line) but dropped to around 200 after the fact (red line), an average that has remained to this day. This suggests most of the pageviews before the move were in fact looking for the music article when they arrived at the undisambiguated Hip hop page. The second issue this RM aims to rectify is the missing hyphen. Ngrams show "hip-hop" as the overwhelmingly preferred term; this holds true when narrowing down to only noun forms. Dictionaries that use a hyphen include the OED, Merriam-Webster, Cambridge, American Heritage, Collins, Britannica, Dictionary.com, The Free Dictionary, Vocabulary.com, and our own sister site Wiktionary; Longman was the only outlier I found. Several of these dictionaries specifically identify "hip hop" as the less common variant. Furthermore, the AP Stylebook recommends "hip-hop" and the Encyclopedia Britannica also uses "hip-hop", as do Spotify and Apple Music. Even if you do not agree with the first part of this proposal, this second part should be uncontroversial as MOS:HYPHEN says to hyphenate attributive compound modifiers anyway, in accordance with standard grammar conventions. This is why we hyphenate African-American culture but not African Americans. Thus, if you oppose a move to Hip-hop, please consider supporting a move to Hip-hop music at the very least rather than blanket opposing. Finally, please note that the outcome of this RM will affect all hip-hop–related articles, categories, and templates; due to the sheer number of pages involved, they have not been tagged here but will be moved accordingly. InfiniteNexus (talk) 07:01, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• Adamson Soaring Falcons, Lady Falcons, Baby Falcons and Lady Baby Falcons → Adamson Soaring Falcons – (Discuss) – The whole thing is contrary to WP:CONCISE. When the whole school program/varsity team is referred to as a whole collective including all genders and age group, journalists usually use the university name or the "senior men's" team name by default. ("The Tigers clinched the overall UAAP championships", the "Green Archers are the current host of Season 99") I get the sentiment of being inclusive but if reliable sources find it sufficient to use the senior men's team by default then Wikipedia should follow suit. Besides we have WP:CONCISE. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 04:09, 16 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 06:14, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • De La Salle Green Archers and Lady Archers → De La Salle Green Archers
  • Zobel Junior Archers and Lady Junior Archers → Zobel Junior Archers
  • FEU Tamaraws and Lady Tamaraws → FEU Tamaraws
  • NU Bulldogs, Lady Bulldogs, Bullpups and Lady Bullpups → NU Bulldogs
  • UE Red Warriors, Lady Warriors, Junior Warriors and Lady Junior Warriors → UE Red Warriors
• Daisy Eris Campbell → Daisy Campbell (writer) – (Discuss) – It's generally that WP:COMMONNAME is preferable to WP:MIDDLENAME even if it means to include a disambiguator. All but one source (which that seems to be a dead link since it now redirects to the home page) emits her middle name. Additionally, according to WikiNav, over half of people typing 'Daisy Campbell' are looking for the writer and that 2% of pageviews come from that. The RMs located at the Emmerdale actress may also help JuniperChill (talk) 21:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 21:53, 15 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 04:25, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
• European Union–United States relations → United States–European Union relations – (Discuss) – Per proper naming convention as the EU is not a country. Was proposed and failed before. No discussion was held after that by consensus to move WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:30, 22 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). Raladic (talk) 03:57, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • European Union–Peru relations → Peru–European Union relation
  • European Union–Turkey relations → Turkey–European Union relations
  • European Union–Sudan relations → Sudan–European Union relations
• Attitude → Attitude (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – This reads to me like the primary topic for "attitude". Not a subject-matter expert, but I don't think anyone who types "Attitude" in the search bar and arrives at this article would be caught off-guard by the contents. DigitalIceAge (talk) 03:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Attitude (psychology) → Attitude
• Alan Cooper → Alan Cooper (software designer) – (Discuss) – Alan Cooper is not (or no longer) the primary topic. Alan Cooper (biblical scholar) has 2/3 the page views of the software designer. Throw in all the other Alan Coopers that there are, and the software designer gets a bit more than 50% of the views. Therefore, WP:PTOPIC is not met. Schwede66 02:49, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Alan Cooper (disambiguation) → Alan Cooper
• Dave Burke → deleted to make room for move – (Discuss) – Sole Wikipedia entry bearing this exact name, thus obviating need for the parenthetical qualifier "(Australian footballer)". There is likewise no need for the Dave Burke disambiguation page which was created in September 2016 and lists two men, only one of which is named "Dave", without even including a link to the David Burke dab page which lists 21 men, including David Burke (politician), who is the other entry upon the Dave Burke dab page. Instead, a hatnote atop the footballer's three-sentence stub can simply specify: For similarly named people, see David Burke (disambiguation). Alternatively, since "Dave" is such a common variation of "David", the footballer's stub can remain as is and Dave Burke can simply redirect to the David Burke dab page. If that option is considered, notice may be taken of another footballer — Davy Burke — whose entry also has no hatnote directing to the David Burke dab page. Perhaps Davy Burke should be likewise moved to Davy Burke (footballer) while Dave Burke along with Davy Burke both redirect to the David Burke dab page. — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:39, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Dave Burke (Australian footballer) → Dave Burke
• Anne Barton → Anne Barton (scholar) – (Discuss) – It does not seem that the scholar's prominence exceeds that of Anne Barton (actress). If both women were listed upon an Anne Barton disambiguation page, any performing credits flowing to the actress would be more easily spotted. Per preference of consensus, the main title header of the scholar's entry may be also styled as simply Anne Barton → Anne Barton (author) or Anne Barton → Anne Barton (writer). — Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 20:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 01:11, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

November 22, 2024

• JTG Daugherty Racing → Hyak Motorsports – (Discuss) – JTG Daugherty was renamed/rebranded to Hyak Motorsports. https://tobychristie.com/nascar/cup-series/jtg-daugherty-racing-being-rebranded-to-hyak-motorsports/ MysticCipher87(alt-account) (talk) 22:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Larry Gatlin → The Gatlin Brothers – (Discuss) – Most sources, including their official website, refer to Larry and his two brothers as a collective unit, with relatively little focus on Gatlin as a solo artist. Almost all of their singles, per Joel Whitburn, were credited to either "the Gatlin Brothers" or "Larry Gatlin and the Gatlin Brothers"; in fact, according to Whitburn, no single after 1979 credited Gatlin as a solo artist. While the Whitburn book uses "Larry Gatlin and the Gatlin Brothers", more modern sources such as the Grand Ole Opry website use just "the Gatlin Brothers" and refer to them as a three-piece act. As this article covers the career of the group more so than Gatlin as a solo performer, and there is more precedent toward crediting the group, I feel the article should be moved to either "the Gatlin Brothers" or "Larry Gatlin and the Gatlin Brothers". Pinging @Caldorwards4: @Martin4647:. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 22:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• History of the Oakland Athletics → History of the Athletics – (Discuss) – The team itself, and all secondary sources, are using the name "the Athletics" since November 2024. While the main article was moved to Athletics (baseball), such a parenthetical is not required here: "History of the Athletics" is unambiguous. 162 etc. (talk) 21:37, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Athletics (baseball) → Athletics (baseball team) – (Discuss) – Going from a suggestion by @Spesh531:; I’m finally making this a dedicated move request (not section, as the page was moved while I was typing this originally) so that it’s specifically addressed by the community and there’s a clear consensus for or against this proposal. Now, I understand that other teams like the Texas Rangers (baseball) only have it as (baseball). However, this case is different. In that case, a clear disambiguation is needed, but once it’s established that they’re talking about baseball, it’s understood that they’re talking about team rather than some other terminology. I don’t believe that to be the case here when disambiguating Athletics into (baseball) without any sort of geographic influence in the title. It’s not like, say, the Yankees, removed New York from the title and the article gets called Yankees (baseball). Athletics is a much more general “sports” kind of team title, and therefore, an unfamiliar reader may see the “Athletics (baseball)” title and think the article covers baseball terminology rather than a team; so, with such a general team name, without it being (baseball team), it could be misleading. On that basis, I strongly support (baseball team) over simply (baseball), as it appears to be the strongest, clearest, easiest to understand disambiguation possible. I’m simply seeking a consensus that clearly addresses this; if most are overwhelmingly opposed to (baseball team), I’ll begrudgingly let it stand and withdraw this as SNOW. DrewieStewie (talk) 21:18, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Teardown → Teardown (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – I think the video game is the primary topic, according to WikiNav. Plus, almost everything on my Google search is referring to the video game. Its not really common to use teardown to refer to tearing down a building, with tear down being used instead. JuniperChill (talk) 20:59, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Teardown (video game) → Teardown
• 2024 Kursk offensive → Sudzha offensive – (Discuss) – The entire narrative of the article is that the Ukrainian Armed Forces didn't reach Kursk, and that is why they failed. But the Ukrainian Armed Forces did not have the goal of capturing the regional center. One of Ukraine's goals was to capture Sudzha, an important transport hub to the north of the Sumy Oblast. And it succeeded. Even if you disagree with me, the offensive never reached Kursk, and therefore the title is simply misleading. MarcusTraianus (talk) 20:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• J. B. Pritzker → JB Pritzker – (Discuss) – Largely similar to this discussion, it appears as though Pritzker stylizes his name without any periods. I can't judge if it meets MOS:BIOEXCEPT to the letter, but his official website and social medias do not use periods, so WP:ABOUTSELF could apply [47][48][49]. It also seems like his name is most commonly used without periods in reliable sources, see The New York Times [50], Chicago Tribune [51], and Politico [52], for example. Forbes [53] is the only current source I can find using periods for his name, though without a space. It does look like most sources prior to his gubernatorial run used periods, only beginning to drop them in the years since, so this could perhaps be treated as a name change. estar8806 (talk) ★ 19:56, 15 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Sceptre (talk) 20:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• The Skin → The Skin (film) – (Discuss) – The novel is much more notable and well-covered than the film. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:40, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • The Skin (novel) → The Skin
• Düsum Khyenpa, 1st Karmapa Lama → 1st Karmapa, Düsum Khyenpa – (Discuss) – Again, this is on behalf of another user, I do not necessarily agree with the proposed titles. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:38, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Karma Pakshi, 2nd Karmapa Lama → 2nd Karmapa, Karma Pakshi
  • Rangjung Dorje, 3rd Karmapa Lama → 3rd Karmapa, Rangjung Dorje
  • Rolpe Dorje, 4th Karmapa Lama → 4th Karmapa, Rolpe Dorje
  • Deshin Shekpa, 5th Karmapa Lama → 5th Karmapa, Deshin Shekpa
  • Thongwa Dönden, 6th Karmapa Lama → 6th Karmapa, Thongwa Dönden
  • Chödrak Gyatso, 7th Karmapa Lama → 7th Karmapa, Chödrak Gyatso
  • Mikyö Dorje, 8th Karmapa Lama → 8th Karmapa, Mikyö Dorje
  • Wangchuk Dorje, 9th Karmapa Lama → 9th Karmapa, Wangchuk Dorje
  • Chöying Dorje, 10th Karmapa → 10th Karmapa, Chöying Dorje
  • Yeshe Dorje, 11th Karmapa → 11th Karmapa, Yeshe Dorje
  • Changchub Dorje, 12th Karmapa Lama → 12th Karmapa, Changchub Dorje
  • Dudul Dorje, 13th Karmapa Lama → 13th Karmapa, Dudul Dorje
  • Theckchok Dorje, 14th Karmapa Lama → 14th Karmapa, Theckchok Dorje
  • Khakyab Dorje, 15th Karmapa Lama → 15th Karmapa, Khakyab Dorje
  • Rangjung Rigpe Dorje, 16th Karmapa → 16th Karmapa, Rangjung Rigpe Dorje
• Self-cannibalism → Autocannibalism – (Discuss) – The new title would make a lot more sense, is somewhat more scientific sounding, and is also used on the article List of autocannibalism incidents. Gaismagorm (talk) 19:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• May 2009 southern Midwest derecho → 2009 Super Derecho – (Discuss) – It doesn't appear "Super derecho" as a class of storms has been used to describe too many other storms officially - user-generated sources and the old page "Super-derecho" point to a 2003 derecho in the Northeast but I can't easily verify this in reliable-source media. The sole other storm called this was verified here and exists as June 2012 North American derecho. However, the common name for this event is "Super derecho" with some variant of the date preceding, and "May 2009 southern Midwest derecho" seems to be a uniquely Wikipedia thing. Since there is no confusion when using the 2009 ambiguator, I propose that Super derecho also be a redirect here, potentially with a hatnote as the mode "super derecho" appears to be very rare, owing to structure rather than intensity (the 2020 Midwest derecho didn't have the same structure, and therefore wasn't a super derecho). Departure– (talk) 19:00, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Steve Miller (author) → Steve Miller (author, born 1967) – (Discuss) – Per my prior comment at Talk:Steve Miller (ice hockey), resolve a series of unjustified partial disambiguations here and ensure each of these people has a qualifier that doesn't apply to any of the others. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 23:33, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 17:42, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Steve Miller (American football coach) → Steve Miller (American football coach, born 1943)
  • Steven Miller (gridiron football) → Steven Miller (gridiron football, born 1941)
  • Steve Miller (athletics) → Steve Miller (Chicago athlete)
  • Steve Miller (business) → ?
  • Stephen Miller (athlete) → Stephen Miller (British athlete)
  • Stephen Miller (writer) → Stephen Miller (writer, born 1941)
• Laptop → Laptop computer – (Discuss) – Common name and better title. Similar to the articles of Desktop computer and Tablet computer. AimanAbir18plus (talk) 13:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). JJP_Master (she/they) 14:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• National Rifle Association → National Rifle Association of America – (Discuss) –

  

  What's in a name?

  National Rifle Association is unique amongst articles relating to National Rifle Associations in the title being arbitrarily abbreviated. The organisation is called the “National Rifle Association of America”, but the en.WP article title omits “of America”. In 2024, this: * Does not conform to WP:Criteria * Does not reflect the most common usage within WP * Deserves re-assessment and scrutiny per WP:GLOBALISE to ensure it is not embedding systemic bias. This proposed move will probably be more controversial than it really should be. WP:CRITERIA * Recognizability: The abbreviated form is only recognisable when contextualised as US/USPol. Most Authority Control sources & third party encyclopaedias use the full name, since context is not available until you start reading the entry. * Naturalness: “of America” is not unnatural - the other articles cope with “of Australia” or “of India”. Moreover, the majority of in-body wikilinks use the full “of America” form, so editors across en.WP don't find it too objectionable. ** Link Count shows 983 indirect links (of which 962 are the "of America" redirect) versus 906 direct links. However, some 556 of the direct links are from articles transcluding the Conservatism US template. In terms of “in-body” or “organic” wikilinks , it’s something like 983 indirect versus just 350 direct. The current title is not actually that commonly used within wikipedia. * Precision: “National Rifle Association” is imprecise and does not unambiguously define the scope. This has caused actual errors and confusion including: ** https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Arthur_Young_(police_officer)&diff=next&oldid=1059158586 ** https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wellingborough_School_CCF&diff=377972454&oldid=375522019 * Concision: “of America” is not verbose. It might be verbose to use it repeatedly once contextualised, but not on first use or as an article title. * Consistency: omitting “of America” is inconsistent with NRA of India/Pakistan/Australia/New Zealand/Norway. We “got away with it” when Wikipedia was more US-centric, but Wikipedia is now covers more global subjects and it deserves re-evaluation to ensure we are not embedding systemic bias. WP:COMMONNAME A 2022 discussion on the Talk page (which was not an RfM discussion and therefore mainly engaged involved editors) came to No Consensus for Change. Some editors cited WP:COMMONNAME when opposing the move. However, this seems to be a What First Comes to Mind interpretation as COMMONNAME is really intended for situations like Cassius Clay/Mohammed Ali. Although there are exceptions where an abbreviation or acronym is used (e.g. FIFA), the only way I can see it applying here is by arguing that “the abbreviated form is what mass media use”. However, COMMONNAME is more nuanced than that:

  “Editors should also consider all five of the criteria for article titles outlined above. Ambiguous or inaccurate names for the article subject, as determined in reliable sources, are often avoided even though they may be more frequently used by reliable sources. … When there are multiple names for a subject, all of which are fairly common, and the most common has problems, it is perfectly reasonable to choose one of the others.”

  (Emphasis mine). The abbreviated form is not Precise or Consistent and is ambiguous without further context. Even if it commonly used (in context) by reliable third-party sources, it is not encyclopaedic. Per WP:COMMONNAME, we should look beyond the scope of what CNN or the NYT use and consider authoritative sources. * The majority of Authority Control sources use the full “of America” including VIAF; US Library of Congress; Research Organisation Registry; National Library of Australia and IDref. COMMONNAME also suggests looking at other encyclopaedic sources to determine what titles are in an encyclopaedic register. * Encyclopaedia Britannica: National Rifle Association of America * Brockhaus Enzyklopädie: National Rifle Association of America * Geonames: National Rifle Association of America Most non-English Wikipedias also use “of America” fr.WP, it.WP, simple.WP. Hemmers (talk) 11:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Coat of arms of the City of London Corporation → Coat of arms of the City of London – (Discuss) – Requesting reversion of several undiscussed moves performed by A.D.Hope. A.D. notes that the coats of arms referred to above properly belong to the relevant municipal authorities; this is true, but his insistence that the word "council" be included in the article titles is needlessly pedantic. If we were to apply his logic consistently, then we would have to rename a whole swathe of articles (coat of arms of Paris, coat of arms of Berlin, seal of New York City, etc. etc.). Zacwill (talk) 11:47, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Coat of arms of the City of Edinburgh Council → Coat of arms of Edinburgh
  • Coat of arms of Glasgow City Council → Coat of arms of Glasgow
  • Coat of arms of Birmingham City Council → Coat of arms of Birmingham
  • Coat of arms of the City of York Council → Coat of arms of York
  • Coat of arms of the City of Bradford Metropolitan District Council → Coat of arms of Bradford
  • Coat of arms of Colchester City Council → Coat of arms of Colchester
  • Coat of arms of Greater Manchester County Council → Coat of arms of Greater Manchester
  • Coat of arms of Barking and Dagenham London Borough Council → Coat of arms of the London Borough of Barking and Dagenham
• Influence of the Russo-Ukrainian War on Croatia → Croatia and the Russo-Ukrainian War – (Discuss) – WP:CONSISTENT. See Moldova and the Russo-Ukrainian War, China and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Hungary and the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Super Ψ Dro 11:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• North Korea and the Russian invasion of Ukraine → North Korean involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine – (Discuss) – Per the Belarusian involvement in the Russian invasion of Ukraine precedent. Both Belarus and North Korea have some degree of belligerence, a fact that is recognised by the infobox at Russian invasion of Ukraine. And for sure, North Korea is more involved in the war against Ukraine than Belarus is. Other country-specific articles related to the invasion (United States and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Lithuania and the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Iran and the Russian invasion of Ukraine) are for countries that we consider as not involved enough so as to mark as cobelligerant for either side. North Korea, as the third and last country with soldiers in the ground in this war, shouldn't be among these and treated differently from Belarus in this regard. Super Ψ Dro 11:27, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Those About to Die (TV series) → Those About to Die – (Discuss) – The page Those About to Die currently redirects to the author Daniel P. Mannix, and therefore is no need for the disambiguation in the title Mjks28 (talk) 10:29, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• 2024 Georgian presidential election → 2025 Georgian presidential election – (Discuss) – According to Prime Minister of Georgia, the new election of President will be held in January 2025 https://x.com/CivilGe/status/1856631529767657884/photo/1 Rutdam (talk) 10:14, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Tha Trademarc → Trademarc – (Discuss) – Per WP:STAGENAME and WP:NAMECHANGES. The subject of the article changed his stage name from Tha Trademarc to Trademarc circa 2007. He has released his music under the stage name Trademarc, both as a solo artist and as a member of East Coast Avengers, for more than a decade. Self-published sources: his current record label (strangefamousrecords.com), his Bandcamp page (bandcamp.com), his 2015 music video (youtube.com), and his 2023 music video (youtube.com). Third-party, reliable sources: Impose (imposemagazine.com), Rap Reviews (rapreviews.com), Wrestle Zone (wrestlezone.com), and XXL (xxlmag.com). フランベ (talk) 09:58, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• 22nd South African Music Awards → 22nd Annual South African Music Awards – (Discuss) – Per 29th and SAMA 30 general rules (PDF), the official website's about, yearly YouTube live streams (29th and 30th) and of course per multiple RS (allAfrica, TimesLIVE and Eyewitness News just to mention a few). dxneo (talk) 21:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 08:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • 23rd South African Music Awards → 23rd Annual South African Music Awards
  • 24th South African Music Awards → 24th Annual South African Music Awards
  • 25th South African Music Awards → 25th Annual South African Music Awards
  • 26th South African Music Awards → 26th Annual South African Music Awards
  • 27th South African Music Awards → 27th Annual South African Music Awards
  • 28th South African Music Awards → 28th Annual South African Music Awards
  • 29th South African Music Awards → 29th Annual South African Music Awards
  • 30th South African Music Awards → 30th Annual South African Music Awards
• Passage Publishing → Jonathan Keeperman – (Discuss) – More of a rescoping than a move. Passage Publishing does not really fulfill our more stringent NCORP guidelines, however its founder, Keeperman, fulfills NBASIC. This is an attempt to resolve the notability issue, as I strongly think this article should exist in some form - and most of the articles that talk about Passage Press are really about Keeperman. If the sourcing existed I would prefer it the other way around, but alas. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:49, 14 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 08:51, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Sugar Cane farmers unions in Fiji → Sugar cane grower associations in Fiji – (Discuss) – Per WP:COMMONAME (WP:LOWERCASE) Rather than being about traditional trade unions, the proposed title makes it clearer to readers these are farmer organizations and follows the most common naming format used by the groups themselves. (Alternatively, if we want to keep the current title, the C in "cane" should be lower case: Sugar cane farmers unions in Fiji.) - RevelationDirect (talk) 03:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 08:50, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• List of songs that retell a work of literature → List of songs inspired by a work of literature – (Discuss) – See above; the current term is ambiguous. The other proposed name is List of songs based on a work of literature (see List of songs based on a film). I have no preference. Note I am now creating an article on the technical concept of retelling as used in literary studies _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 03:08, 15 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frostly (talk) 08:49, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Unknown Archon → ? – (Discuss) – This "Unknown Archon" sounds like this is a proper name, but it's apparently not, this is just uppercase added to a translation of one of the general descriptions used in historiography about this story. The article is a bit of a mess - most of it is the lead section that doesn't actually summarize the body; half the body is a verbatim copy from a 20th-century translation of a 10th-century primary source, and then there's a few paragraphs which kind of say yeah none of this stuff in the lead is necessarily true true. So I don't really know if there's a good name for this topic, or if this small amount of context has potential - should it just be merged into a more general article? Joy (talk) 07:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Captain Phillips (film) → Captain Phillips – (Discuss) – WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over Captain Phillips (soundtrack) per pageviews. JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 04:38, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Captain Phillips → Captain Phillips (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
• Human safari → ? – (Discuss) – W4r5a7w4r blanked and redirected this page to Human zoo. I reverted the blanking, since the subject of this article seems notable, but I agree that it doesn't seem to be the primary topic of the term "human safari". jlwoodwa (talk) 03:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• Apollo Sauroctonos → Apollo Sauroktonos – (Discuss) – most of the sources that are currently in the article, as well as external sources not on the page, refer to it as 'sauroktonos' instead of 'sauroctonos'. additionally, the letter 'c' does not exist in the attic greek alphabet and using a kappa (k) is a more appropriate transliteration. however, a few sources do use the form with a 'c' so it is an appropriate redirect 2A02:C7C:2DCE:1F00:9C41:7BD2:C8D1:758 (talk) 00:44, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
• ZenBook → Asus Zenbook – (Discuss) – Branding as per logo shown has 'Asus' prefix and the 'B' is not uppercase Sceeegt (talk) 23:00, 21 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 2pou (talk) 00:19, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

November 21, 2024

• Political appointments by Donald Trump → Political appointments by Donald Trump in his first term – (Discuss) – Opening this discussion to discuss a good page name for these pages. As Trump has won a 2nd term, many of his existing presidential pages have been moved to "first ___ " (e.g. First cabinet of Donald Trump, First presidential transition of Donald Trump). Don't think that verbiage works well here, but asking for input for a good naming scheme. Also, feel free to add other pages that should be moved, as Trump is likely to have a new set of appointees, etc, during his 2nd term. Natg 19 (talk) 00:58, 7 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. cyberdog958^Talk 04:15, 14 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Zippybonzo | talk | contribs (they/them) 20:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Executive Office appointments by Donald Trump → Executive Office appointments by Donald Trump in his first term
  • List of ambassadors appointed by Donald Trump → List of ambassadors appointed by Donald Trump in his first term
  • List of United States attorneys appointed by Donald Trump → List of United States attorneys appointed by Donald Trump in his first term
• Moscow Financial and Industrial University → Moscow Financial and Industrial University «Synergy» – (Discuss) – I'm making this request on behalf of the new user SienceWrld (talk · contribs) who asked me for help on my talk page [54]. SienceWrld claims that this is now the correct name for this institute. I personally don't have an opinion on the matter, but I will note that the German, Spanish, Italian, Turkish and Russian Wikipedias either call it Moscow Financial and Industrial University «Synergy» (properly translated) or simply Synergy University. Pichpich (talk) 19:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
• Aharon Yehuda Leib Shteinman → Aharon Leib Shteinman – (Discuss) – He is commonly known as Reb Aharon Leib.

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• List of census divisions of Ontario → List of administrative divisions of Ontario – (Discuss) – 95% of this article content is *about* administrative divisions, not about census divisions, and I'd argue that administrative divisions are a lot more important than how the census is subdivided. Currently the page *lists* census divisions but categorizes them by their form of administration which is strange, and leads to confusing results for Brant/Brantford and Haldimand/Norfolk. A separate page about census divisions could also be created although I think just specifying within this page where there are differences would be sufficient. Somatochlora (talk) 16:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
• Etihad Park → Etihad Park (Abu Dhabi) – (Discuss) – "or Etihad Park (ampitheatre)" – or potentially "Etihad Park (New York City)" or "Etihad Park (soccer stadium)". Seeing as the naming rights were just announced, it seems logical to move the wiki article for NYCFC's new stadium. I'd prefer to have the article be just Edihad Park without any disambiguation, and to move the music venue in the UAE to Etihad Park (Abu Dhabi) or Etihad Park (ampitheatre). I don't know if that can really be done though (or if it really matters). Ngpiii (talk) 16:31, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Etihad Park (New York City) → Etihad Park
• Sheep's trotters → Sheep's trotter – (Discuss) – WP:PLURAL, consistency with Pig's trotter as the most extensive of the three articles. Orchastrattor (talk) 16:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Cow's trotters → Cow's trotter
• Robert Miller (businessman) → Robert Miller (Canadian businessman) – (Discuss) – Resolve another hairy partial disambiguation mess. # Robert Miller (businessman) could apply to anyone at Robert Miller#Business # Robert Miller (composer) could also apply to Bob Miller (composer, born 1895) - I'm drawing a blank on any way of disambiguating him, though. # Robert Miller (American football) could also apply to Bob Miller (American football) maybe that article should be moved to Bob Miller (tackle) as well. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 19:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:33, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Robert Miller (composer) → ?
  • Robert Miller (American football) → Robert Miller (running back)
• Gapo → Gapo (social networking service) – (Discuss) – The word Gapo needs to be a disambiguation because of the article GAPO syndrome. And topics in Draft:GAPO. Theparties (talk) 20:42, 10 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:21, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
• Mina Caputo → Keith Caputo – (Discuss) – Caputo has now detransitioned and is planning on changing his name back to Keith Turtletennisfogwheat (talk) 13:43, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
• Allegations of United States support for the Khmer Rouge → United States support for the Khmer Rouge – (Discuss) – Reopening discussion. According to the above backlog, editors have overwhelmingly voiced support for the requested move. I fail to understand @Estar8806's decision to close the discussion and sideline the consensus that is apparent. As I wrote him on this user talk: Multiple statements in the article are factual and undisputed and correspond to US support of the Khmer Rouge: 1) U.S. voted for the Khmer Rouge and the Khmer Rouge-dominated Coalition Government of Democratic Kampuchea (CGDK) to retain Cambodia's United Nations (UN) seat until as late as 1993, long after the Khmer Rouge had been mostly deposed by Vietnam. = diplomatic US support 2) I encourage the Chinese to support Pol Pot, said Zbigniew Brzezinski, the national security adviser at the time. The question was how to help the Cambodian people. Pol Pot was an abomination. We could never support him, but China could. = diplomatic US support has admitted by a member of the then US government (quoted here from the NYTimes source of ref 20) I will not even go on investigate the claims of political scholars quoted in the wiki article since this much is already tantamount to US support. NokGradten (talk) 08:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. – robertsky (talk) 11:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
• Silver Haze → Silver Haze (Aye Nako album) – (Discuss) – No apparent reason why this should be PTOPIC over Silver Haze (Sqürl album) (in fact, I would argue the latter makes the stronger case, though not strong enough that it should be PTOPIC). QuietHere (talk | contributions) 08:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Silver Haze (disambiguation) → Silver Haze
• List of autistic fictional characters → List of autistic characters – (Discuss) – WP:CONCISE if we still had a list of autistic people it would make sence to have "characters" in the name to make sure people don't mix them up. But that list has been deleted years ago and "characters" already imply's that they are fictional it makes sense to make this shorter. Anthony2106 (talk) 07:36, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
• St Peter's Anglican Church, Onehunga → St Peter's Church, Onehunga – (Discuss) – More WP:CONSISTENT with most other church article titles St Peter's Church, and is more WP:CONCISE The National Library of NZ doesn't use Anglican in the name: [55] nor does the secondary source I am using Traumnovelle (talk) 04:48, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
• Transient execution CPU vulnerability → Transient execution CPU vulnerabilities – (Discuss) – The current article title is singular. However, this page is mostly a list of vulnerabilities related to speculative execution. This request changes the article title to plural. SOP9X (talk) 02:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

November 20, 2024

• Scolding Letters → Skällebreven – (Discuss) – The current title appears to have no support in the article (all cited sources are in Swedish). I can not find any support in Google scholar either [56] (The one hit refers to a letter from John III, Count of Nassau-Siegen). Thus, I believe we can't determine any established English useage and according to WP:UE should instead follow local. Andejons (talk) 22:40, 13 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 23:16, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Robin Hood in popular culture → Robin Hood in literature and the arts – (Discuss) – A lot of this stuff is not "popular culture". A play performed 1475 is not going to be filmed and shown at the Cineplex. It might be studied by a university professor. Ditto stuff written in 1678 and 1712 etc. "Hodd" is an academic work. There's an 1860 opera, and an MA course on Robin. Bunch of ballads and folk tales from centuries ago at least. Probably ther're a few more.
  
  If there is such a thing as "popular culture" as opposed to just "culture" anymore, these aren't it. We don't want to split the article or name it "Robin Hood in popular and elite culture". And after all even comics are literature and pop songs the arts, so we're not being untrue. And there are a few articles already that use this form. Herostratus (talk) 21:42, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Clarissa (novel) → Clarissa; or, The History of a Young Lady – (Discuss) – Opening up this discussion again, as I'd like to confirm the correct result was reached in last week's discussion. There was clear consensus to move the article away from plain Clarissa, but not as clear a consensus for the destination. I believe that including the subtitle rather than a parenthetical disambiguator is a better solution, (a) per WP:SUBTITLE, (b) Richardson's other (major) novel is at Pamela; or, Virtue Rewarded, so the proposed move will be consistent with it, and (c) as mentioned above, there is also an unfinished novel by Stefan Zweig called Clarissa, which potentially could have an article at some point, making the current title of this article ambiguous. Tevildo (talk) 21:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Gateway, Inc. → Gateway 2000 – (Discuss) – As this is a defunct company and is looked on retrospectively, I think Gateway 2000 is the COMMONNAME of the subject. The company seems to be better known in retrospect and remembered under its original name with the "2000" added to "Gateway". Sceeegt (talk) 19:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Paris Saint-Germain Academy → Paris Saint-Germain Youth Academy – (Discuss) – This is the correct name per this and this. "Paris Saint-Germain Academy" is the name for a program of football camps for children across the world. It's not the name for the actual youth academy of Paris Saint-Germain FC. The old RM was a mistake on my part. The academy is usually called the "youth academy of PSG" or something along those lines most of the time too. Paul Vaurie (talk) 03:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 17:33, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Anglo-Marri Wars → Anglo-Baloch Wars – (Discuss) – Involvement of Bugti and other tribes. Waleed (talk) 21:03, 20 November 2024 (UTC) Fixed per Special:Diff/1258597310. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 16:30, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• United Volleyball Club → Cocolife Asset Managers – (Discuss) – As per WP:COMMONNAME. This is a defunct team, which was widely referred to as the "COCOLIFE Asset Managers" by the media (except in 2019 when they lost Cocolife as a sponsor) despite for using the crest on the infobox, actual jerseys and social media presence used "Cocolife". That is just the nature of sports team in the Philippines. It doesn't make sense to keep the name of a club which had a brief name change at the end of their existence. Hariboneagle927 (talk) 15:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Olza → Olza (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – I am pretty sure that this is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC when compared to the village near the river. See Pageviews Analysis. FromCzech (talk) 14:19, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Olza (river) → Olza
• Spinal disc herniation → Disc herniation – (Discuss) – WP:CONCISE, already mostly mentioned as simply "disc herniation" throughout the article, most common term out of a few others, while "spinal disc herniation" is rarest, "spinal" seems redundant here –Tobias (talk) 11:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 12:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Michelle C. Chang → Michelle Chang (biochemist) – (Discuss) – Michelle Chang is simply not referred to by her middle name in any reliable source of note. Therefore, "C. Chang" is not a viable natural disambiguation, as it still has to be in somewhat common use. A standard disambiguation appears necessary in this case to distinguish her from the fictional character of Michelle Chang (Tekken). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:43, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Gilda → Gilda (film) – (Discuss) – Surely (Shirley?) the given name is the primary topic. (The three non-given name entries would have to be split off.) Clarityfiend (talk) 11:15, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Gilda (disambiguation) → Gilda
• November 2024 Amsterdam attacks → 2024 Amsterdam football riot – (Discuss) – There is no single WP:COMMONNAME, so we must rely on WP:NDESC. "Riot" is most WP:CONSISTENT with most articles at Category:Association football hooliganism (1999 Rotterdam riots, 2008 UEFA Cup final riots, Querétaro–Atlas riot etc). "Riot" also more inclusively captures property damage and other acts of hooliganism that took place, which can't be described as "attacks". The word "football" or "soccer" in the title is necessary as that is the most recognizable aspect of this event. All the clashes centered around the football fans. "November" is unnecessarily WP:OVERPRECISE. VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 21:33, 9 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. FOARP (talk) 09:55, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Klabat University → Universitas Klabat – (Discuss) – The proposed name change from "Klabat University" to "Universitas Klabat" is necessary to align with the official name used by the institution in all formal and legal contexts. "Universitas Klabat" is the recognized and registered name in Indonesia, reflecting its identity and adherence to national naming conventions for higher education institutions. Updating the title ensures accuracy, consistency, and better representation of the university's official branding and communication. Unklabwebmaster (talk) 08:57, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Leonid Kadeniuk → Leonid Kadenyuk – (Discuss) – The article itself constantly refers to Kadenyuk. "Leonid Kadenyuk" is his name on Britannica and in several sources. "Leonid Kadenyuk" gets 5,740 results on Google while "Leonid Kadeniuk" gets 2,830. The Y seems to be the correct spelling. It also follows the custom of similar names like Igor Kornelyuk. Evedawn99 (talk) 03:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Mendocino Fracture Zone → Mendocino fracture zone – (Discuss) – Here fracture zone is generic, a type, not part of the proper name, as evidenced by inconsistency of capitalization in sources; per MOS:CAPS, then we should use lowercase. Dicklyon (talk) 02:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Balleny Fracture Zone → Balleny fracture zone
  • Blanco Fracture Zone → Blanco fracture zone
  • Chile Fracture Zone → Chile fracture zone
  • Diamantina Fracture Zone → Diamantina fracture zone
  • Easter Fracture Zone → Easter fracture zone
  • Emerald Fracture Zone → Emerald fracture zone
  • Hero Fracture Zone → Hero fracture zone
  • Hjort Fracture Zone → Hjort fracture zone
  • Kosminskaya Fracture Zone → Kosminskaya fracture zone
  • Mocha Fracture Zone → Mocha fracture zone
  • Owen Fracture Zone → Owen fracture zone
  • Panama Fracture Zone → Panama fracture zone
  • Prince Edward Fracture Zone → Prince Edward fracture zone
  • Shackleton Fracture Zone → Shackleton fracture zone
  • Sovanco Fracture Zone → Sovanco fracture zone
  • Valdivia Fracture Zone → Valdivia fracture zone
  • Vema Fracture Zone → Vema fracture zone
  • Vinogradov Fracture Zone → Vinogradov fracture zone
• Jose W. Diokno Boulevard → Jose Diokno Boulevard – (Discuss) – Revert the title back to the original title, since the current title is not WP:CONCISE. Moved by now-blocked Salaminrenvoie (talk · contribs), claiming that "This is the real name of the street in its street sign, as well as in google maps." This is an argument for official name, but we do not necessarily follow official names, as per WP:COMMONNAME. "Diokno Boulevard" may be another alternative choice, considering use in sources like this, this, and this. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 01:14, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Technischer Überwachungsverein → TÜV – (Discuss) – It is without a doubt the WP:COMMONNAME, but I would also say it is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (over TUV/Tuv), but if not I would prefer a parenthesis disamgiguator over a WP:NATDAB. PhotographyEdits (talk) 01:02, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Division (biology) → Division (taxonomy) – (Discuss) – Poor qualifier given the existence of cell division; retarget Division (biology) to Division#Science as {{R from incomplete disambiguation}}. Mdewman6 (talk) 00:56, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Ross Stores → Ross Dress for Less – (Discuss) – There seems to be a favor for calling it "Ross Dress for Less". I am presenting more evidence than last time. To wit: * If you search for a store on Google Maps, every store is labeled "Ross Dress for Less", and Google Maps usually defers to the most common nomenclature. * Independent news articles such as this, this, this, and this use "Ross Dress for Less", whereas searching "Ross Stores" tends to give press releases, corporate directories, and more financial-leaning sources. * Directories for shopping malls which have one, such as this, use the full name "Ross Dress for Less". * The company's official Facebook and Instagram accounts both use "Ross Dress for Less". * The copyright for the logo includes the "Dress for Less" part, suggesting it is part of the name and not just a slogan. I could not find any instances where just the "Ross" part of the logo was used, further suggesting "Dress for Less" is officially part of the company name. Despite what was said in the previous RM, I don't consider the "Dress for Less" part promotional in tone if it's legally part of the name any more so than the "dollar" in Dollar General is promotional. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 18:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 00:47, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
• Libera Università Maria SS. Assunta → LUMSA University – (Discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME in English Pantarch (talk) 10:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 18:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 00:44, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

November 19, 2024

• White Party (Sean Combs) → Diddy Parties – (Discuss) – As stated in the article, Diddy Parties is more commonly referred to with regards to White parties by Sean Combs (Diddy). Proposing move per WP:CONCISE, WP:COMMONNAME, WP:PRECISE, and WP:NATDIS. Other alternatives like Diddy Party, White Party (Diddy), etc. are not off the table. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 18:57, 4 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. BD2412 T 18:44, 12 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 22:54, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq → Zia-ul-Haq – (Discuss) – He is more commonly known as Zia-ul-Haq. Reliable sources and the ngram tool both indicate a clear preference for this shorter version. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 22:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 22:07, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• How I Got Over → How I Got Over (song) – (Discuss) – Roots album has several times more page views, no PTOPIC. New title should still have a hatnote, since the album has a title track, but additional disambiguation to How I Got Over (Clara Ward song) feels unnecessary. Mach61 20:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 162 etc. (talk) 21:02, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Due West → Due West (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – Everything else listed on Due West is a partial title match. The band is the only thing with the exact name "Due West", and should therefore be the primary topic. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 19:49, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Due West (band) → Due West
• Dory (fish) → Dory (species) – (Discuss) – Althoguh it may be expected that the character is a type of one of these species, Paracanthurus isn't listed here so WP:DABCONCEPT may not apply. The character has 6,153 views compared with only 2,709[[57]] for the species. I think this title may WP:ASTONISH readers given they are probably more familiar with the character they would not find out though that the character is a type of these species. Dory (fish type) or Dory (common name) but Category:Set index articles on animal common names doesn't have any forms other than "fish". Crouch, Swale (talk) 19:10, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Kate Abdo → Kate Scott (British presenter) – (Discuss) – Reopening this on the advice of the previous closer.[58] "Kate Abdo" as a title is a clear violation of the policy at WP:NAMECHANGES: " we give extra weight to (...) reliable sources (...) written after the name change." Recent secondary source articles all use "Kate Scott"[59] and her blue-check Insta is @katescott. See also WP:SPNC. . 162 etc. (talk) 17:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Wikipedia:WikiProject Textile Arts → Wikipedia:WikiProject Textile arts – (Discuss) – To match: # Textile arts # Wikipedia:WikiProject Visual arts # the much more widely used {{WikiProject Visual arts}} (~89,000 transclusions vs. ~3,300) ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf)  15:17, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• PVV → PVV (disambiguation) – (Discuss) – Per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, the abbreviation primarily refers to the Dutch politcal party Party for Freedom, and should redirect to it as such. Zinderboff(talk) 05:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. Toadspike [Talk] 13:45, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• List of United States tornado emergencies → List of tornado emergencies – (Discuss) – I don't believe a tornado emergency has been issued for areas outside of the United States, so the "United States" is unnecessary. If a tornado emergency has been issued outside of the US, then the list can still just be "List of tornado emergencies" with an extra section for non-US emergencies. E_F⁵ 13:34, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Disney Star → JioStar – (Discuss) – Please place your rationale for the proposed move here. AngadSingh2004 (talk) 09:43, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Heavy metal element → Heavy metal (chemistry) – (Discuss) – This article has been moved many places over the years with various attempts at disambiguation with other topics listed at heavy metal. While the current WP:NATURAL disambiguation has merit, it is not consistent with similarly titled articles like light metal, trace metal, toxic heavy metal, transition metal, precious metal, base metal, noble metal, native metal, etc. So I think we need to bite the bullet and use parenthetical disambiguation, and the least ambiguous qualifier is simply "chemistry". Mdewman6 (talk) 09:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Opposite (semantics) → Opposite – (Discuss) – CyberTheTiger redirected Opposite to this title, stating that it is the primary topic. If so, then per WP:MISPLACED the article should be moved to the undisambiguated title. (I'm making this an RM because I'm unsure whether it really is the primary topic.) jlwoodwa (talk) 08:08, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Opposite → Opposite (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
• Peruvian Civil War of 1980–2000 → Peruvian conflict – (Discuss) – This article has been repeatedly moved without consensus in what appears to be an edit war. I think the name it had prior to this was the most fitting but I welcome discussion. Charles Essie (talk) 05:30, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• The Mandalorian (character) → Mandalorian (character) – (Discuss) – It looks like a while back someone moved this page without discussion and it was reverted, but I think this is a conversation worth having. As I understand, the precedent on Wikipedia dictates that when a character uses an alias starting with "The", the corresponding article should drop it from the title. A few examples include The Punisher, The Man with No Name, and The Man in Black (Lost). Speaking more broadly, articles named after proper nouns always lack a "The" even when people use it in conversation (i.e., The White House, The Academy Award for Best Actor, The United Kingdom). I'm suggesting that this article be brought into line with the precedent. ThanatosApprentice (talk) 04:44, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Parcels (band) → Parcels – (Discuss) – The band is the only mention to a plural of the term and gets significantly the most views [[60]]. Seems redundant to disambiguate when I'd say it's the primary topic here (note I am talking about parcels plural, not the singular parcel) especially when considering WP:SMALLDETAILS. Otherwise I'd be open to changing the redirect from Parcels → Parcels (band) to Parcels → Parcel, but as it is it's flawed. orangesclub 🍊 04:29, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Phenacylamine → 2-Aminoacetophenone – (Discuss) – The common name appears to be 2-aminoacetophenone, per CAS, PubChem, and a Google search. Mdewman6 (talk) 01:26, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Martin Doughty → Sir Martin Doughty – (Discuss) – To distinguish him from the other doctorate-holding Martin Doughty (who earned his PhD at UCL). Procrastinatory (talk) 01:14, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
• Toner → Toner (printing) – (Discuss) – Unsure if this article is the primary topic for this name. Pageviews shows 2x - 3x more views for the skin care article, but I would prefer the dab to be the basename, if moved. Natg 19 (talk) 00:50, 19 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Toner (disambiguation) → Toner
• Michael Scott (film director) → Michael M. Scott – (Discuss) – "(film director)" is limiting, he introduced as "director, producer and documentary filmmaker" in the article. Michael Scott (filmmaker) is a redirect to Ryan vs. Dorkman, so already taken. In his article Michael Scott (film director) he is referred to as "Michael M. Scott" (this needs confirmation from a reliable source though). Note that Category:Films directed by Michael M. Scott has existed for four years but needs to be populated. I couldn't find any guidance in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people). Commander Keane (talk) 20:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. SilverLocust 💬 00:48, 12 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 00:18, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Elapsed listings

The 7-day listing period has elapsed. Items below may be closed if there's a consensus, or if discussion has run its course and consensus could not be achieved.

• Timeline of Fauquier County, Virginia in the Civil War → Timeline of Fauquier County, Virginia, in the American Civil War – (Discuss) – Per WP:MILMOS, MOS:GEOCOMMA This article is about the American Civil War so we should follow that naming format and a comma should also go after the state name, both per clear naming conventions. This will also bring this article into line with Category:Fauquier County, Virginia, in the American Civil War and Loudoun County, Virginia, in the American Civil War. - RevelationDirect (talk) 21:43, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Metrosideros excelsa → Pōhutukawa – (Discuss) – WP:COMMONNAME, WP:RECOGNIZABILITY Alexeyevitch^(talk) 08:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 18:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• RSM-56 Bulava → ? – (Discuss) – The new user Vlad97531 (talk · contribs) attempted a cut-and-paste move to R-30 Bulava in order "to conform with common designations of other Russian SLBMs". Then they brought it to WP:RMTR, which was contested. From RMTR –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 09:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. charlotte ^👸♥ 15:13, 10 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ❯❯❯ Raydann^(Talk) 18:38, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• John Savage (actor) → John Savage – (Discuss) – "John Savage (actor)" is the clear primary topic by usage. Jean-de-Nivelle (talk) 12:17, 4 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 18:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
  • John Savage → John Savage (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
• Flag of Kannada → Kannada flag – (Discuss) – WP:CONSISTENT for ethnic flags like Ainu flag. — Hemant Dabral (📞 • ✒) 11:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). 2pou (talk) 18:17, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Kingdom of Georgia (1256–1329) → Kingdom of Eastern Georgia – (Discuss) – WP:CON with Kingdom of Western Georgia An emperor ✖ 18:14, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Ghazala Javed → Murder of Ghazala Javed – (Discuss) – Nearly all sources in the article primarily cover the circumstances of Ghazala Javed's murder. Her murder has gained significant attention in media coverage, while details about her life and career receive relatively limited focus thus failing WP:SINGER. The article be renamed to the suggested title per WP:CRITERIA. There is enough information about her killing and later development such as this, this, and this. I think the suggested title be adopted per English language sources. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 13:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Bensci54 (talk) 17:25, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• George Louis Beer Prize → AHA Prize in European International History – (Discuss) – name of the prize was changed in 2024 Sabrinawaite (talk) 22:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. JJP_Master (she/they) 16:56, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Literature about intersex → Intersex literature – (Discuss) – See also Talk:Films_about_intersex#Requested_move_14_November_2024 and Talk:Television_works_about_intersex#Requested_move_18_November_2024. @Erik, Lewisguile, Spookyaki, and Theparties: WP:CONSISTENT with LGBTQ literature siblings. Web-julio (talk) 16:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Pennzoil 400 (Las Vegas) → Pennzoil 400 – (Discuss) – Same with my requested move on Quaker State 400, I feel like now that we've had this race since forever, I feel like we should just drop the Las Vegas part from the name, the pageviews also show a massive margin between this and homestead's race. 45BearsFan (talk) 16:42, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Pennzoil 400 → Pennzoil 400 (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
• Israeli incursions in the West Bank during the Israel–Hamas war → West Bank conflict (2023–present) – (Discuss) – Or War in the West Bank (2023–present). The Israel–Hamas war is limited to Gaza and Hamas. There is an independent article for Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present) and for Red Sea crisis. These are related to the Israel–Hamas war, but rather than being against Hamas, are against Hezbollah and the Houthis, respectively. The conflict in the West Bank is similar to the state of affairs against Hezbollah before September: conflict, but not outright war, triggered by but not encompassed within the war in Gaza. In addition, the current title is extremely long, clunky, and an unlikely search term. 🐔 Chicdat  ^{Bawk to me!} 16:09, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Calling All Angels → Calling All Angels (Train song) – (Discuss) – Following feedback on WP:RM/TR, I have moved my request here. There are three different songs with the same name, and while the Train song may be the more popular of the three, "Calling All Angels" has become a bit of a used song title where there needs to be some ambiguity here. JE98 (talk) 14:58, 18 November 2024 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). JE98 (talk) 14:58, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Calling All Angels (disambiguation) → Calling All Angels
• Abdulaziz bin Turki Al Saud → Abdulaziz bin Turki Al Faisal – (Discuss) – While his official name is "Abdulaziz bin Turki bin Faisal Al-Saud", King Faisal's family are commonly known with the last name "Al-Faisal". The name "Abdulaziz bin Turki Al-Faisal" is more commonly used than "Abdulaziz bin Turki Al-Saud". It is also the name used in motorsports. You can even see this on the Ministry of Sports website. See relevant discussion in his father's page: Talk:Turki_Al-Faisal#Requested_move_19_March_2024 High surv (talk) 14:46, 18 November 2024 (UTC).
• Heaven Is for Real → Heaven Is for Real (book) – (Discuss) – There is WP:NOPRIMARYTOPIC because of the film. Heaven Is for Real needs to be a disambiguation page. Open to be moved to Heaven is for Real: A Little Boy's Astounding Story of His Trip to Heaven and Back per WP:SUBTITLE. Theparties (talk) 21:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 09:52, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
• Kuji-in → Kuji-kiri – (Discuss) – The kuji-in..., also known as Nine Hand Seals, is a system of mudras and associated mantras that consist of nine syllables. ja wiki has articles ja:九字護身法 and ja:九字, currently wikidata connects Kuji-in to 九字, but the ja article only discussed the 9 characters, hand seals and such are in 九字護身法. Kuji-kiri redirects here, and is linked to 九字護身法 in wikidata. Keep "Kuji-in <-> 九字" and "Kuji-kiri <-> 九字護身法" in wikidata, then move and adjust the en article would be the easiest way to solve this. ps, one alternative to "Kuji-kiri" is to translate "九字護身法". Sohryu Asuka Langley Not Shikinami (talk) 01:26, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Backlog

Elapsed listings fall into the backlog after 24 hours. Consider relisting 8-day-old discussions with minimal participation.

• Right to family life → Family rights – (Discuss) – More common in literature. Most other human rights titles are formatted as *beneficiary* rights. HudecEmil (talk) 21:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Raladic (talk) 21:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
• Constance, Queen of Sicily → Constance I of Sicily – (Discuss) – It appears that Constance II was a reigning queen of Sicily, as she was succeeded by her sons James and Frederick. Векочел (talk) 23:59, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. charlotte ^👸♥ 21:24, 9 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Reading Beans, Duke of Rivia 05:28, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Constance of Sicily, Queen of Aragon → Constance II of Sicily
• Wikipedia:Outing (essay) → ? – (Discuss) – This essay currently has rather poor visibility, and I believe its title is to blame. For one, adding a hatnote to the target of Wikipedia:Outing and Wikipedia:OUTING to refer back to this essay seems like it would cause more confusion than help, especially given the already-large stack of hatnotes at that target. For two, this essay may be outdated, given it was created in 2006 and its most recent edit was in 2013; due to this, it seems some of the claims in the essay may be inaccurate since Wikipedia has advanced some of its policies since then. In a nutshell, I'm opening this move request since a new title for this page is a start, though not necessarily the end nor the only fix. Steel1943 (talk) 09:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝙹𝚒𝚢𝚊𝚗 忌炎 (𝚃𝚊𝚕𝚔) 17:48, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
• Minnesota Fats → Minnesota Fats (character) – (Discuss) – Why isn't the article at Minnesota Fats? That is by far the most common name used here to refer to him. Every source in the article uses Minnesota Fats, to the point even his NYT obit called him that and not Rudolph Wanderone, and the word "Wanderone" is hardly used in the text of the article instead of "Fats". Sure, he named himself after a fictional character, but inbound links and page views suggest most people looking for "Minnesota Fats" are looking for the pool player and not the character. It's blatantly obvious Wanderone's legacy has far outlasted that of the fictional character from whom he derived his name. This seems a crystal-clear violation of WP:COMMONNAME to have his article at "Rudolph Wanderone", and to me, it's like if we arbitrarily decided to move Lady Gaga's article to "Stefani Germanotta". I'm genuinely shocked no one else has even considered this issue in the past ten years. Previous discussion in 2014 had everyone pulling a different direction, and me in a more hostile mood, so I'm hoping to get a consensus this time with a clearer focus from both me and others. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:08, 16 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 00:23, 24 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Safari Scribe^{Edits! Talk!} 08:25, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Rudolf Wanderone → Minnesota Fats
• Stadion Miejski (Białystok) → Białystok Municipal Stadium – (Discuss) – I am submitting this request to revert the article title of the stadium in Białystok to its previous title, Białystok Municipal Stadium in light of recent actions by the user FromCzech. The move to the Polish-language title Stadion Miejski (Białystok) was made unilaterally and appears inconsistent with Wikipedia's guidelines, specifically WP:UE. This guideline encourages the use of English translations where appropriate to maintain accessibility for the global readership. FromCzech has argued for the name change without prior discussion, potentially as a reaction to a naming debate on Lokotrans Aréna that I initiated. This recent move does not reflect a consensus, and it also disrupts the established consistency within the "Football venues in Poland" category, where nearly all stadium names are translated into English. Notable examples include Father Władysław Augustynek Stadium, Gdynia Municipal Stadium, Kielce Municipal Stadium, and Raków Municipal Stadium. I urge that the title "Białystok Municipal Stadium" be restored to uphold Wikipedia’s principles of consistency and transparency, while also preventing this matter from being affected by personal disputes or editing motivated by anything other than Wikipedia's editorial standards. Paradygmaty (talk) 21:09, 5 November 2024 (UTC)— Relisting. —usernamekiran (talk) 21:30, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
• Siege of Gerona (disambiguation) → Sieges of Gerona – (Discuss) – Several issues I hope to address with these proposed moves. First, it makes little sense to have the "second" and "third" sieges as titles but to call the first event a battle; of the three is was the most like a battle, but the distinction is confusing in this case. It does seem that [ordinal] siege of Gerona is the most common manner of disambiguating the various events. If the first segment were to carry the WP:COMMONNAME "Battle" then it should not carry a parenthetical qualifier, being already WP:NATURALly disambiguated and the primary topic for the term; the base name Battle of Girona already redirects there and is WP:MISPLACED. Second, when used alone without additional context, "Siege of Gerona" does seem to refer to the successful final siege as a primary topic, and currently redirects there. I am proposing to leave this as a primary redirect and turn the disambiguation page into a set index at the plural, but I would also support having the set index in place of the redirect at the singular. Third, while I personally feel "Siege" in these titles is part of the proper noun, use in sources is mixed, and most "siege" articles on enwiki do not take siege as part of the proper noun (in contrast to "Battle of..." which is almost always part of the proper noun; I don't see the distinction) and WP:MILCAPS is vague, so for now let's go for being the most consistent. Lastly, as for the Girona vs. Gerona issue, there has been past move reversions and discussion about this (e.g. Talk:Third siege of Girona#Girona/Gerona), and we should reach consensus here. I am open to either spelling, but am proposing a return to Gerona because it does seem a majority of reliable sources use this spelling, and that is the criterion upon which we should base our choice. On the other hand, the modern spelling of the city is the Catalan spelling. Regardless, the set index/disambiguation page should use the same spelling as the articles. Overall, I am open to discussing and considering any and all variations of this proposal, but the status quo should not be kept. Mdewman6 (talk) 04:03, 1 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:07, 10 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 17:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Battle of Girona (1808) → First siege of Gerona
  • Second siege of Girona → Second siege of Gerona
  • Third siege of Girona → Third siege of Gerona
• Hiawatha (train) → Hiawatha (MILW train) – (Discuss) – These paranthetical names aren't quite as clear and precise as they can be since multiple other trains have used these names throughout their history. The simple parenthetical "(train)" isn't really enough to distinguish these different trains from each other. The first article is solely about the multiple trains operated by the Milwaukee Road which predate the current Amtrak train along the corridor of the same name. The name could be changed to "trains" to indicate the multitude of different trains covered in the article. The Amtrak/Via Maple Leaf isn't the only named train with a termini in Toronto, especially the historical Lehigh Valley Railroad train, which also ran to New York City, albeit with a different alignment. The name of the article could also be changed to maybe "Amtrak/Via", but the train from my understanding is moreso grouped with Amtrak. The Amtrak Palmetto is the successor of the ACL train of the same name. The fourth article is about a completely unrelated historical ATSF train operating in California separate from the current Amtrak train. The Wolverine is also the name of a historical New York Central Railroad train. Nonetheless, I don't necessarily believe in these names as final as I want them to be subject to change, and not all of them need to be implemented. I will say that if we decide that the simple parenthetical of "(train)" is sufficient in describing the articles in question, then perhaps instead the article titles for the Amtrak Pere Marquette, Silver Star, and Valley Flyer could have "Amtrak" dropped from their parentheticals for naming consistency across all Amtrak train articles. Thoughts? OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 06:21, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting.  ASUKITE 15:08, 31 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. —Compassionate727 ^(T·C) 13:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Maple Leaf (train) → Maple Leaf (Amtrak train)
  • Palmetto (train) → Palmetto (Amtrak train)
  • Valley Flyer → Valley Flyer (ATSF train)
  • Wolverine (train) → Wolverine (Amtrak train)
• Turkish Women's Football Super League → Süper Lig (women) – (Discuss) – See my rm above. Regarding this name, the word "football" is redundant in this context, because this was added to separate it from the Women's Basketball Super League, this makes it Kadın Süper Ligi in Turkish, which basically means 'women's super league', thus Süper Lig (women) seems the most logical and consistent with the men version. Beshogur (talk) 17:41, 23 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. 𝚈𝚘𝚟𝚝 (𝚝𝚊𝚕𝚔𝚟𝚝) 15:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. Frost 05:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
• Městský fotbalový stadion Miroslava Valenty → Miroslav Valenta Municipal Football Stadium – (Discuss) – See WP:UE. No evidence that the current titles are used in English-language reliable sources. Per the policy, we "translate it if this can be done without loss of accuracy and with greater understanding for the English-speaking reader.'" 162 etc. (talk) 20:30, 28 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (Goodbye!) 06:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Městský stadion (Ostrava) → Municipal Stadium (Ostrava)
  • Městský stadion (Karviná) → Municipal Stadium (Karviná)
• Cargo 200 (code name) → Cargo 200 – (Discuss) – it is an invalid disambig page with only two meanings --Altenmann >talk 23:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 20:15, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
  • Cargo 200 → Cargo 200 (disambiguation) over redirect without leaving a redirect (implied), then WP:G14 delete if unnecessary
• Tel al-Sultan attack → ? – (Discuss) – I am bringing this discussion back up with a stronger argument and after the Good Article review has concluded. I have identified many sources calling this incident a massacre. There are likely more, so feel free to add any. They include The Guardian (opinion piece), Morrocco World News, The Peninsula Qatar, Truthout, Al-Ahram, Daily Sabah, Jacobin, Vox (Not explicitly, though cites someone calling it one, says it’s a slaughter in headline, and says Israel is massacring Palestinians), TRT World (Partially reliable) Le Monde, Middle East Eye, El Pais, The New Arab, Mondoweiss, Gulf News, Huffington Post (Disputed reliability), The Intercept, The Nation (opinion piece), Aljazeera and Aljazeera Arabic. Many mainstream media articles also cite people who describe the attack as a massacre, though do not explicitly claim it to be so. Humanitarian groups Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor and Doctors Without Borders have described the incident as a massacre. Officials of Colombia,[61] Saudi Arabia,[62] the State of Palestine,[63] and the Organization of Islamic States[64] have called the attack a massacre. United Nations Special Rapporteur on the occupied Palestinian territories Francesca Albanese has called it a massacre.[65] Additionally, Hamas and the Palestinian Civil Defense in Rafah have called the incident a massacre.[66] Last time, there was also the issue of whether the attacks were intentional, as “massacre” is a loaded word that may imply intentionally killing civilians. Firstly, NYT quotes an expert who suggests Israel may have tried to mitigate harm but accepted civilian casualties,[67] and an MSNBC analysis indicates Israel should have known there were civilians in the area.[68] Al-Jazeera’s fact checking agency[69] and India Today[70] think so, and suggestions by Israel that a weapons dump exploded have been refuted by the New York Times, who found no evidence of the claim.[71] Egypt[72] and the PA[73] also allege that it was intentional. There is still the issue of what exactly to call the article in any case. We have some options:
  A: Keep it the same, Tel al-Sultan _.
  B: Rafah tent camp _.
  C: Just "Rafah _" Personisinsterest (talk) 21:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
• Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation) → Attempted assassination of Donald Trump – (Discuss) – The fact that the Pennsylvania article is located at Attempted assassination of Donald Trump in Pennsylvania rather than Attempted assassination of Donald Trump suggests that there is no primary topic. This will hopefully resolve the confusion raised at User talk:SilverLocust#Attempted assassination of Donald Trump (disambiguation). GTrang (talk) 14:01, 11 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. estar8806 (talk) ★ 18:48, 30 October 2024 (UTC)
• LGBT history in Georgia → LGBT in Georgia – (Discuss) –
  Moved from Talk:LGBT rights in Georgia § Proposed merge of LGBT history in Georgia into LGBT rights in Georgia
  Following the suggestion by Bungle, and basing what I did in LGBT in Korea, merge both and rename to LGBT in Georgia (or LGBTQ in Georgia, per WP:CONSUB of LGBTQ). --MikutoH ^talk! 01:40, 7 October 2024 (UTC) — Relisting. asilvering (talk) 00:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

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