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== DNA test? == |
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I recall that this article used to mention the DNA test that was done a few years ago which confirmed that Napoleon III was not the son of his father. What happened? Why was it removed? --[[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 21:45, 27 May 2021 (UTC) |
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:I did not remove your edit but I have attempted to research it and it appears that the science it actually currently inconclusive - if i've misread or simply missed the facts by all means set me and the record straight but it seems for the time being it would be at least arguably too speculative to include a section on this here, at least at the present moment. Irregardless, I would encourage you to add this content to page on [[House of Bonaparte]]. |
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[[User:OgamD218|OgamD218]] ([[User talk:OgamD218|talk]]) 06:45, 1 September 2021 (UTC) |
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:It cannot be mentioned, since the result became that his biological father was Nathanael Rothschild of London, the long-time lover and money lender of Hortensia. A century before DNA was discovered, the people of Paris openly talked about his complete lack of resemblance to Napoleon physiognomy and uncanny likeness to the Rotschilds. [[Special:Contributions/78.131.76.26|78.131.76.26]] ([[User talk:78.131.76.26|talk]]) 19:36, 30 November 2022 (UTC) |
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[[OgramD218]] What sources do you have to ensure that the DNA corresponds to the Rothschild family? [[User:SrReptil|SrReptil]] ([[User talk:SrReptil|talk]]) 06:56, 22 February 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{ping|SrReptil}}No such sources exist. It was speculated that NIII belonged to haplogroup I1 which purportedly Talleyrand also belonged to (a haplogroup of Scandinavian and North German origin), while Rothschields belong to haplogroup J2 (a haplogroup of Middle Eastern origin) if I remember correctly. --[[Special:Contributions/95.24.66.198|95.24.66.198]] ([[User talk:95.24.66.198|talk]]) 04:27, 19 January 2024 (UTC) |
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== Photo rather than painted portrait == |
== Photo rather than painted portrait == |
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:I do see your point. Most of his better quality photo portraits are for from later in his reign, thus he looks older and more tired (as he was in poor health the last years of his reign). But, I think photos (if available) should be used instead of portrait paintings. Photos give a more real representation of the subject. ''[[User:Robertus Pius|<span style="background:turquoise; color:#FFF; padding:2px;">Robertus Pius</span>]] ([[User talk:Robertus Pius|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robertus Pius|Contribs]])'' 23:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
:I do see your point. Most of his better quality photo portraits are for from later in his reign, thus he looks older and more tired (as he was in poor health the last years of his reign). But, I think photos (if available) should be used instead of portrait paintings. Photos give a more real representation of the subject. ''[[User:Robertus Pius|<span style="background:turquoise; color:#FFF; padding:2px;">Robertus Pius</span>]] ([[User talk:Robertus Pius|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Robertus Pius|Contribs]])'' 23:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== From Kassel to Kent == |
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It is said that he left Kassel on March 19 and arrived in England on March 20. That was not possible in 1871. Something has to be wrong here. [[Special:Contributions/2A00:801:7B9:5F19:46D9:9B76:BE8B:5DDB|2A00:801:7B9:5F19:46D9:9B76:BE8B:5DDB]] ([[User talk:2A00:801:7B9:5F19:46D9:9B76:BE8B:5DDB|talk]]) 06:21, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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:Check the sources. We put down or change to what the sources say. If they are clearly wrong, check the quality of the sources and bring to talk to get opinion. [[User:Roger 8 Roger|Roger 8 Roger]] ([[User talk:Roger 8 Roger|talk]]) 07:55, 23 March 2024 (UTC) |
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== Overload of images == |
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There is a complete overload of photos and images that do not show him but other persons or places. I am removing these images, they are all are mentioned in the text already. On the other hand an important painting such as the reception of the Siamese ambassadors is completely missing. [[User:Gryffindor|Gryffindor]] ([[User talk:Gryffindor|talk]]) 14:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC) |
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Photo rather than painted portrait
[edit]I used the painted portrait in editing the earlier article because it is in color, is used at the top of French Wikipedia article, and shows him at his peak of his reign. The current photo comes from the end of his reign and makes him look old and asleep. I think the photo is acceptable, but I still wish we had a more sympathetic color portrait in the lead.Respectfully,SiefkinDR (talk) 11:19, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
- I do see your point. Most of his better quality photo portraits are for from later in his reign, thus he looks older and more tired (as he was in poor health the last years of his reign). But, I think photos (if available) should be used instead of portrait paintings. Photos give a more real representation of the subject. Robertus Pius (Talk • Contribs) 23:30, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
"Crapulinksy" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Overload of images
[edit]There is a complete overload of photos and images that do not show him but other persons or places. I am removing these images, they are all are mentioned in the text already. On the other hand an important painting such as the reception of the Siamese ambassadors is completely missing. Gryffindor (talk) 14:23, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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