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I'm logging in rarely. Please use the [[Special:EmailUser/Anonimu|Email this user]] feature if you expect a quick response.[[User:Anonimu|Anonimu]] ([[User talk:Anonimu#top|talk]]) 06:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC) |
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== Topic ban == |
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Your topic ban on Eastern Europe has been adjusted to only cover post-2000 Russia/Ukraine relations, per [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1220883120 this AE appeal]. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 14:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for the update.[[User:Anonimu|Anonimu]] ([[User talk:Anonimu#top|talk]]) 15:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC) |
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::While I have not always been impressed by Anonimu's contributions, I think that he should have the right to post on whatever topics he wants. If there is a problem with a specific statement, it could be deleted, but one can not assume that everything that he would have to say about post-2000 Russia/Ukraine relations is bad. While I have disagreed with him over the Moldovan minority in Ukraine, by deleting some of my content (even some things that should not have been deleted because they were factually accurate), he has alerted me about the need to document my statements even more thoroughly. At any rate, I fully believe in the freedom of the press enshrined in the U.S. constitution. [[Special:Contributions/2603:6013:7D40:BE00:9C9D:9516:253B:2239|2603:6013:7D40:BE00:9C9D:9516:253B:2239]] ([[User talk:2603:6013:7D40:BE00:9C9D:9516:253B:2239|talk]]) 04:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC) |
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== Message from anon == |
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In the thread at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians_in_Ukraine, it seems that you have not deleted mainly a point of view, but the census numbers of people who identified themselves as Moldovans, Ukrainians, Russians, etc., and of the census Moldovans who said that their language was Moldovan and of those who said that their language was Romanian in various localities, raions and oblasts. It seems that you didn't like something in the information included in there, and that you deleted, probably out of anger, a lot of useful information/facts. Sometimes you have made some changes to my postings (2603:6013:7D40:BE00:50D:6DE9:60D7:F198) by invoking the 2001 Ukrainian census, but now you have deleted a lot of its results. And, by the way, the number of self-identified ethnic Romanians in the Storozhynets raion was over 30,000, not 2,923, the number to which it was reduced by your edit. |
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:Dear anon, if some people decide to identify as Moldovans, Wikipedia will report them as Moldovans, not as Romanians. I removed article text that tried to conflate their number in the number of Romanians, which violates [[WP:OR]] and [[WP:SYNTH]]. Sorry for deleting one digit from the number of Romanians in Storozhynets, and thanks for fixing that.[[User:Anonimu|Anonimu]] ([[User talk:Anonimu#top|talk]]) 18:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Dear Anonimu, |
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Including the two groups separately could be useful, including if one shows how more and more people are displaying a Romanian identity, which is what I have done. Thanks for making the change indicating who makes the argument about the changing identity of some from "Moldovan" to "Romanian". And there is no problem that you got a digit wrong. Also keep in mind that I am not seeking conflict with you or anybody else. By the way, your latest deletion of some of what I posted on July 26 is within the reasonable range. |
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:On the other hand (and there are opinion polls in both Moldova and Ukraine indicating that), there are some individuals (I will make available the opinion polls when I will have the books in my hands again) who have both a Moldovan primary and a Romanian secondary ethnic identity. These individuals are particularly numerous in northern Bukovina and in Hertsa (that is, outside Bessarabia), where most of the census Moldovans also have a Romanian ethnic identity. The Moldovan census of 2024 has allowed individuals to have multiple identities, and we will soon see that many do. And people's identities in the internal documents are (in most places slowly) changing from Moldovan to Romanian, and more often from "only Moldovan" to "Moldovan and secondarily Romanian". The regional board of education of the Chernivtsi region of Ukraine (though the study is not public) surveyed all the students and the parents, and most of those with a Moldovan identity also had a secondary Romanian identity. My source is a person who worked for the regional board of education, and had a ... Romanian grandparent. I am also partly descended from the ethnic Moldovans/Romanians in what is now Ukraine, and I have relatives with a census Romanian and a census Moldovan (and sometimes exclusively Moldovan) identity. Some of them used to like the idea of "Moldovan schools" distinct from "Romanian schools". Now nobody among my relatives does. And the argument "the Moldovans are ethnic Romanians" made by the Romanian government, Romanian-American diaspora, etc., has prevented the use of the self-identified Moldovans as cannon-fodder in the war against Russia. And even those with an exclusively Moldovan identity are benefiting from this. [[Special:Contributions/2603:6013:7D40:BE00:85EC:2B76:6C1C:5A4A|2603:6013:7D40:BE00:85EC:2B76:6C1C:5A4A]] ([[User talk:2603:6013:7D40:BE00:85EC:2B76:6C1C:5A4A|talk]]) 19:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC) |
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==DYK for 1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria== |
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== A concern. == |
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How do you expect others to even take your edits seriously when you make up quotes about Theodor Bals who never even lived to see fascism? Not to mention your very Soviet orthodox historiographical viewpoint, especially on Moldova, which prevents you from having a balanced opinion. So quite aking to the "Homo sovieticus" :). |
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P.S. It's spelled "Fântâna" ;). [[User:Maxmibsb|Maxmibsb]] ([[User talk:Maxmibsb|talk]]) 20:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{re|Maxmibsb}} I'm not saying that I like his POV, but we seek an equilibrium of POVs. The majority of Moldavian citizens do not want union with Romania, so maybe you should seek to understand why is that. |
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:https://epedia.ro/2021/01/22/la-fantana-miorita-de-teodor-bals/ "fascists" is literally therein. I don't know why, but it is. [[User:tgeorgescu|tgeorgescu]] ([[User talk:tgeorgescu|talk]]) 00:52, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::my issue isn't with that (I simply removed the word "minority" because ever since Russia's invasion, polls have tended to lean pretty close to 50 50 or 40 60 on each side), but how he blanket undoes everything without even investing the effort into rebutting the individual arguments. I hope this comes across clearly. [[User:Maxmibsb|Maxmibsb]] ([[User talk:Maxmibsb|talk]]) 03:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{re|Maxmibsb}} http://tinread.bjbacau.ro:8081/opac/authority/3611;jsessionid=536B230CB3D635740926F396C3EFA961 [[User:tgeorgescu|tgeorgescu]] ([[User talk:tgeorgescu|talk]]) 04:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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: I don't really care about you opinion about me, or your opinion about anything to be fair. Please stick too the [[Wikipedia:Five pillars]], and everything should be fine. That means no removing of sourced text, no inclusion of personal opinions in article space, and no addition of refs you haven't checked yourself (especially when such sources can easily be found online and other people can see you're lying about it).[[User:Anonimu|Anonimu]] ([[User talk:Anonimu#top|talk]]) 20:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::I would advise that you follow the same guidelines, and that you stop vandalizing my work. I have attached 3 sources to the claim we are disputing. Look through them, and don't blanket undo everything if you have any ounce of decency in you. There are no "personal opinions" in stating the fact that Romanian was banned in schools after 1866. Unless of course you are into Soviet whitewashing. Correcting the sloppy English is similarly a net good for the article, as well as adding dates to contextualize things. [[User:Maxmibsb|Maxmibsb]] ([[User talk:Maxmibsb|talk]]) 21:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::I have little interest in prolonging this squabble, because it is quite clear where your opinions lie. I just ask that you read before editing. Don't agree with a particular edit? Fine. Justify it. I added 4 new bits of info. Otherwise you're just intellectually lazy. [[User:Maxmibsb|Maxmibsb]] ([[User talk:Maxmibsb|talk]]) 21:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== BLPN == |
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See [[Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Third iteration]]. [[User:tgeorgescu|tgeorgescu]] ([[User talk:tgeorgescu|talk]]) 12:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== Back at it again == |
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You seem to be like an itch you can't scratch, wherever there is talk about Eastern Europe and specifically Moldova, you come around to throw your politically motivated agenda that nobody subscribes to. Before vandalizing my work again, think about the reason you got banned from editing Russia and Ukraine related articles. Denying the 1878 annexation of Southern Bessarabia as not a fact is downright stupid of you, because you are certainly in no position to be called a serious historian. And imagine calling Jan-March 1918 "an occupation of the Romanian army" 😂 Read up on Inculet and not on Soviet apologist sources that also call Jun 18th 1940 "liberation" (more like annexation and deportation). For someone from Constanta (not Moldova) you seem very interested in my people for all the wrong reasons. Maybe think twice before writing Kremlin/Sor/PSRM type propaganda again. Who knows, maybe you're on their payroll, given you reappeared out of thin air in 2024, just like the GRU operations against elections in Moldova and Romania... [[User:Maxmibsb|Maxmibsb]] ([[User talk:Maxmibsb|talk]]) 01:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 01:49, 12 December 2024
Further contact
[edit]I'm logging in rarely. Please use the Email this user feature if you expect a quick response.Anonimu (talk) 06:09, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Topic ban
[edit]Your topic ban on Eastern Europe has been adjusted to only cover post-2000 Russia/Ukraine relations, per this AE appeal. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:25, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the update.Anonimu (talk) 15:55, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
- While I have not always been impressed by Anonimu's contributions, I think that he should have the right to post on whatever topics he wants. If there is a problem with a specific statement, it could be deleted, but one can not assume that everything that he would have to say about post-2000 Russia/Ukraine relations is bad. While I have disagreed with him over the Moldovan minority in Ukraine, by deleting some of my content (even some things that should not have been deleted because they were factually accurate), he has alerted me about the need to document my statements even more thoroughly. At any rate, I fully believe in the freedom of the press enshrined in the U.S. constitution. 2603:6013:7D40:BE00:9C9D:9516:253B:2239 (talk) 04:31, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Message from anon
[edit]In the thread at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanians_in_Ukraine, it seems that you have not deleted mainly a point of view, but the census numbers of people who identified themselves as Moldovans, Ukrainians, Russians, etc., and of the census Moldovans who said that their language was Moldovan and of those who said that their language was Romanian in various localities, raions and oblasts. It seems that you didn't like something in the information included in there, and that you deleted, probably out of anger, a lot of useful information/facts. Sometimes you have made some changes to my postings (2603:6013:7D40:BE00:50D:6DE9:60D7:F198) by invoking the 2001 Ukrainian census, but now you have deleted a lot of its results. And, by the way, the number of self-identified ethnic Romanians in the Storozhynets raion was over 30,000, not 2,923, the number to which it was reduced by your edit.
- Dear anon, if some people decide to identify as Moldovans, Wikipedia will report them as Moldovans, not as Romanians. I removed article text that tried to conflate their number in the number of Romanians, which violates WP:OR and WP:SYNTH. Sorry for deleting one digit from the number of Romanians in Storozhynets, and thanks for fixing that.Anonimu (talk) 18:32, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
Dear Anonimu,
Including the two groups separately could be useful, including if one shows how more and more people are displaying a Romanian identity, which is what I have done. Thanks for making the change indicating who makes the argument about the changing identity of some from "Moldovan" to "Romanian". And there is no problem that you got a digit wrong. Also keep in mind that I am not seeking conflict with you or anybody else. By the way, your latest deletion of some of what I posted on July 26 is within the reasonable range.
- On the other hand (and there are opinion polls in both Moldova and Ukraine indicating that), there are some individuals (I will make available the opinion polls when I will have the books in my hands again) who have both a Moldovan primary and a Romanian secondary ethnic identity. These individuals are particularly numerous in northern Bukovina and in Hertsa (that is, outside Bessarabia), where most of the census Moldovans also have a Romanian ethnic identity. The Moldovan census of 2024 has allowed individuals to have multiple identities, and we will soon see that many do. And people's identities in the internal documents are (in most places slowly) changing from Moldovan to Romanian, and more often from "only Moldovan" to "Moldovan and secondarily Romanian". The regional board of education of the Chernivtsi region of Ukraine (though the study is not public) surveyed all the students and the parents, and most of those with a Moldovan identity also had a secondary Romanian identity. My source is a person who worked for the regional board of education, and had a ... Romanian grandparent. I am also partly descended from the ethnic Moldovans/Romanians in what is now Ukraine, and I have relatives with a census Romanian and a census Moldovan (and sometimes exclusively Moldovan) identity. Some of them used to like the idea of "Moldovan schools" distinct from "Romanian schools". Now nobody among my relatives does. And the argument "the Moldovans are ethnic Romanians" made by the Romanian government, Romanian-American diaspora, etc., has prevented the use of the self-identified Moldovans as cannon-fodder in the war against Russia. And even those with an exclusively Moldovan identity are benefiting from this. 2603:6013:7D40:BE00:85EC:2B76:6C1C:5A4A (talk) 19:59, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
DYK for 1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria
[edit]On 16 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the 1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria, some troops refused orders to fire on the protesters? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 1899–1900 peasant unrest in Bulgaria), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
A concern.
[edit]How do you expect others to even take your edits seriously when you make up quotes about Theodor Bals who never even lived to see fascism? Not to mention your very Soviet orthodox historiographical viewpoint, especially on Moldova, which prevents you from having a balanced opinion. So quite aking to the "Homo sovieticus" :).
P.S. It's spelled "Fântâna" ;). Maxmibsb (talk) 20:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Maxmibsb: I'm not saying that I like his POV, but we seek an equilibrium of POVs. The majority of Moldavian citizens do not want union with Romania, so maybe you should seek to understand why is that.
- https://epedia.ro/2021/01/22/la-fantana-miorita-de-teodor-bals/ "fascists" is literally therein. I don't know why, but it is. tgeorgescu (talk) 00:52, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- my issue isn't with that (I simply removed the word "minority" because ever since Russia's invasion, polls have tended to lean pretty close to 50 50 or 40 60 on each side), but how he blanket undoes everything without even investing the effort into rebutting the individual arguments. I hope this comes across clearly. Maxmibsb (talk) 03:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't really care about you opinion about me, or your opinion about anything to be fair. Please stick too the Wikipedia:Five pillars, and everything should be fine. That means no removing of sourced text, no inclusion of personal opinions in article space, and no addition of refs you haven't checked yourself (especially when such sources can easily be found online and other people can see you're lying about it).Anonimu (talk) 20:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I would advise that you follow the same guidelines, and that you stop vandalizing my work. I have attached 3 sources to the claim we are disputing. Look through them, and don't blanket undo everything if you have any ounce of decency in you. There are no "personal opinions" in stating the fact that Romanian was banned in schools after 1866. Unless of course you are into Soviet whitewashing. Correcting the sloppy English is similarly a net good for the article, as well as adding dates to contextualize things. Maxmibsb (talk) 21:05, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have little interest in prolonging this squabble, because it is quite clear where your opinions lie. I just ask that you read before editing. Don't agree with a particular edit? Fine. Justify it. I added 4 new bits of info. Otherwise you're just intellectually lazy. Maxmibsb (talk) 21:07, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
BLPN
[edit]See Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Third iteration. tgeorgescu (talk) 12:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
Back at it again
[edit]You seem to be like an itch you can't scratch, wherever there is talk about Eastern Europe and specifically Moldova, you come around to throw your politically motivated agenda that nobody subscribes to. Before vandalizing my work again, think about the reason you got banned from editing Russia and Ukraine related articles. Denying the 1878 annexation of Southern Bessarabia as not a fact is downright stupid of you, because you are certainly in no position to be called a serious historian. And imagine calling Jan-March 1918 "an occupation of the Romanian army" 😂 Read up on Inculet and not on Soviet apologist sources that also call Jun 18th 1940 "liberation" (more like annexation and deportation). For someone from Constanta (not Moldova) you seem very interested in my people for all the wrong reasons. Maybe think twice before writing Kremlin/Sor/PSRM type propaganda again. Who knows, maybe you're on their payroll, given you reappeared out of thin air in 2024, just like the GRU operations against elections in Moldova and Romania... Maxmibsb (talk) 01:49, 12 December 2024 (UTC)