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== split? ==

It's really hard to get past that LONG list of species. Anyone agree/disagree that there should be a new page for the list? <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Heatherfire|Heatherfire]] ([[User talk:Heatherfire|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Heatherfire|contribs]]) 04:53, 28 September 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Done. <!--[[User:Where/sigContract]];Alan Rockefeller-->[[User:Alan Rockefeller|Alan Rockefeller]] <small>([[User talk:Alan Rockefeller|Talk]] - [[Special:Contributions/Alan Rockefeller|contribs]])</small><!--ESC:Alan Rockefeller--> 23:25, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

thus proving that shrooms will mess u up <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.1.206.117|72.1.206.117]] ([[User talk:72.1.206.117|talk]]) 14:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

"thus proving that shrooms will mess u up"
What's that supposed to mean?([[User:Aweedwhacker|Aweedwhacker]] ([[User talk:Aweedwhacker|talk]]) 21:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC))

== Merge with Psilocybin? ==

Merge or not, the "Effects" section does not belong here. It most properly belongs in the Psilocin page, rightly.
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== psilocybin mushrooms ==

I went through the artical and found noting of what makes you have a hallucination. I was talking with a friend earlyer to day and he told me that the reasion that you do hallucinate is because blood runs down your brain stem and I just want to know if this is true or not because I would rather not be taking a natural product that does bodly harm.[[Special:Contributions/71.222.165.32|71.222.165.32]] ([[User talk:71.222.165.32|talk]]) 01:33, 21 March 2008 (UTC)Brandi S.

That is entirely untrue [[Special:Contributions/24.65.42.159|24.65.42.159]] ([[User talk:24.65.42.159|talk]]) 21:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

== Psilocybin in relation to human evolution. ==

I wish this article could contain some information about Terrence Mckenna's theory about psilocybin in relation to human evolution.

Actually, it would be great if somebody could make a separate page about "Psilocybin and human evolution".

There is some info here though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna#The_.22Stoned_Ape.22_theory_of_human_evolution
--[[User:Zanthius|Zanthius]] ([[User talk:Zanthius|talk]]) 15:06, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
:'McKenna did not attempt to defend his hypotheses through rigorous scientific evidence; he consciously self-identified as a type of shaman, or ethnobotanist. McKenna and his followers view his theories as speculation that is at a minimum scientifically feasible and arguably gifted by special knowledge due to psychedelic plants.' Do you really think that information is related to the term of 'encyclopedia'? -- [[Special:Contributions/82.209.225.33|82.209.225.33]] ([[User talk:82.209.225.33|talk]]) 07:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


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I know that the evolution of the ability to think abstractly must have been one of the prime causes which made monkeys evolve into human beings. The invention of numbers, the formation of religious doctrines, the formation of complex social structures - all such things requires the ability to think abstractly. There seems to be a need for some kind of a shock which pushed our species out of the typical animalistic behavior pattern. Why would a species choose to break out of its typical animalistic behavior pattern, unless there was some kind of a shock applied to the species?


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I wouldn't spontaneously invent numbers, form religious doctrines, and complex social structures, if I was a Gorilla. However, if there was some kind of a shock pushing my mind out of my typical animalistic behavior pattern, I might start to do such things. From my vast experience with magic mushrooms some years ago, I think it is safe to say that it provides some kind of a shock which stimulates your mind to think more abstractly. Yes, if I was a Gorilla, I would probably also start to think more abstractly, if I started to eat magic mushrooms.--[[User:Zanthius|Zanthius]] ([[User talk:Zanthius|talk]]) 19:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
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: The ability to think abstractly can't have been one of the causes of monkeys evolving into humans, because they didn't. The notion that ideas like numbers, religious doctrines and complex social structures were "spontaneously" invented is erroneous - the number zero, for example, didn't occur until after the birth of Christ and even then not in the complete form we use it in now. Complex social structures themselves are exhibited by an enormous (if not all) range of animal species and are not peculiarly human. These social structures (and in my opinion consciousness and abstract thought itself) are explained by [[Emergence]] as a natural although generally inexplicable growth due to interaction between agencies. Besides all that, imagine you're a gorilla and you eat a mushroom - all of a sudden you're experiencing things at a confusing level of intensity, you feel weak, maybe nauseaous, and the resulting abnormal behaviour immediately alienates you from the troop causing them to cast you out and reducing your chances of reproducing at all. All in all, I definitely would not place magic mushrooms on the level of, say, [[The Monolith]]. --[[Special:Contributions/210.55.180.44|210.55.180.44]] ([[User talk:210.55.180.44|talk]]) 03:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
== How reliable is Samorini's article? ==


I'm talking about notes: [[Psilocybin_mushroom#cite_note-Rush2013-5|[5]]] & [[Psilocybin_mushroom#cite_note-Samorini_1992-6|[6]]] I cannot find him on Scopus <ref>{{cite web |title=Author search results |url=https://www.scopus.com/results/authorNamesList.uri?sort=count-f&src=al&sdt=al&sl=45&s=AUTHLASTNAME(Samorini)+AND+AUTHFIRST(Giorgio)&st1=Samorini&st2=Giorgio&orcidId=&selectionPageSearch=anl&reselectAuthor=false&activeFlag=true&showDocument=false&resultsPe |website=Scopus |accessdate=11 August 2020}}</ref> and he has a really low score on ResearchGate <ref>{{cite web |title=Giorgio Samorini's RG profile |url=https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Giorgio_Samorini |website=ResearchGate |accessdate=11 August 2020}}</ref>
Most historians actually agree upon the notion that the first humans should be defined according to when our genetic strain developed a "symbolic language", and gained the ability of "collective learning" - which made our pool of collective knowledge increase from one generation to the next. Who are you to say that people only gets nauseous and feel weak, when they eat magic mushrooms? Most people don't get a [[bad trip]] when they eat magic mushrooms, they get enlightening spiritual experiences - see the [[Marsh Chapel Experiment]] for details. Personally, I used to feel strong and think that I was God when I ate magic mushrooms.
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:I removed the (unreliable) Samorini's article quote from the page for the reasons expressed in [[Talk:Psilocybin]] --[[User:Digressivo|Digressivo]] ([[User talk:Digressivo|talk]]) 23:30, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
::Hey I had added Samorini 1992 article before I saw this thread. Although the source seems different. I also coulnd't find anything about Lajoux 1964. But it's seems pretty typical for literature of 60 years. Can somebody take a look? [[User:Mekatra|Mekatra]] ([[User talk:Mekatra|talk]]) 00:05, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
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I am completely convinced that psilocybin stimulated my ability to think abstractly when I used it, and when the ability to think abstractly is stimulated, it increases the probability for developing a symbolic language. The [[Olmec]] civilization in middle America might have invented the number zero long before the birth of Christ by the way, and they probably used a lot of magic mushrooms in their religious ceremonies.


I check pages listed in [[:Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting]] to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for [[User:AnomieBOT/docs/OrphanReferenceFixer|orphaned references]] in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of [[:Psilocybin mushroom]]'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for ''this'' article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
I also feel much more related to the deep spiritual experiences of magic mushrooms, than to those stupid chimpanzees. I really hope that I originate just as much from divine mushrooms, as from those stupid chimpanzees! At least that would give me *some* divine origin.--[[User:Zanthius|Zanthius]] ([[User talk:Zanthius|talk]]) 22:08, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


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== Psilocybin mushrooms outside the Western Hemisphere ==
<li>From [[List of cannabis rights leaders]]: {{cite web | url=http://www.ibtimes.com/pulse/marijuana-legalization-2015-meet-20-most-influential-people-cannabis-1887890 | title=Marijuana Legalization 2015: Meet The 20 Most Influential People In Cannabis | work=[[International Business Times]] | date=April 20, 2015 | author=Sender, Hanna}}</li>
<li>From [[Legal status of psilocybin mushrooms]]: {{cite news |last= Siena |first= Nina |date= 5 November 2020 |title= Oregon becomes first US state to decriminalise cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine |url= https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/oregon-becomes-first-us-state-decriminalise-cocaine-heroin-methamphetamine-1685570 |work= [[International Business Times]] |access-date= 9 November 2020}}</li>
<li>From [[Capital punishment]]: {{cite news |last=Sridharan |first=Vasudevan |url=http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/peshawar-massacre-afghan-taliban-condemn-un-islamic-pakistan-school-carnage-1479853 |title=Afghanistan: Afghan Taliban condemned 'un-Islamic' Pakistan school carnage |work=International Business Times |date=17 December 2014 |access-date=17 December 2014 |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20180622032821/https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/peshawar-massacre-afghan-taliban-condemn-un-islamic-pakistan-school-carnage-1479853 |archive-date=22 June 2018 |url-status=live}}</li>
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. [[User:AnomieBOT|AnomieBOT]][[User talk:AnomieBOT|<span style="color:#880">⚡</span>]] 20:49, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
Is there any history for the use of psilocybin mushrooms outside mesoamerica and in the Eastern Hemisphere before the Spanish came to the new world? There are many theories about the drink called Soma, the Eleusian Mysteries, in the dung of cattle of prey of pre-historic humans in Africa, ect. but I haven't read an article that talks about this history.....were mushrooms just discovered in the new world or did they exist in the old world and where just unknown by the time the Spanish found them in the new world? Just like cannabis was unknown in the new world until it was brought from the old world. [[User:Zachorious|Zachorious]] ([[User talk:Zachorious|talk]]) 11:41, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


== "Showed controversy"? ==
See [[Amanita muscaria]]. That mushroom of course being very different and having extremely different effects. [[User:Beach drifter|Beach drifter]] ([[User talk:Beach drifter|talk]]) 18:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


:''This, and another experiment administering psilocybin to graduate divinity students, showed controversy.''
==Dosage==
The indications for dosage seem to be repeated, and to be contradictory in terms of strength, does anyone know an expert who could clear this section up? [[Special:Contributions/24.65.42.159|24.65.42.159]] ([[User talk:24.65.42.159|talk]]) 21:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
I've never heard of controversy being "shown". Could the writer have meant "caused" or "created"? – [[User:AndyFielding|AndyFielding]] ([[User talk:AndyFielding|talk]]) 12:47, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

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How reliable is Samorini's article?

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I'm talking about notes: [5] & [6] I cannot find him on Scopus [1] and he has a really low score on ResearchGate [2] Digressivo (talk) 00:50, 11 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the (unreliable) Samorini's article quote from the page for the reasons expressed in Talk:Psilocybin --Digressivo (talk) 23:30, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey I had added Samorini 1992 article before I saw this thread. Although the source seems different. I also coulnd't find anything about Lajoux 1964. But it's seems pretty typical for literature of 60 years. Can somebody take a look? Mekatra (talk) 00:05, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Author search results". Scopus. Retrieved 11 August 2020.
  2. ^ "Giorgio Samorini's RG profile". ResearchGate. Retrieved 11 August 2020.

Orphaned references in Psilocybin mushroom

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Reference named "IBT":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 20:49, 8 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Showed controversy"?

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This, and another experiment administering psilocybin to graduate divinity students, showed controversy.

I've never heard of controversy being "shown". Could the writer have meant "caused" or "created"? – AndyFielding (talk) 12:47, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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