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TV ratings are notable--yes. But they must be left to their individual pages. Sure, Wizards may be a big part to her career, but it does not imply that she must have all the details about Wizards in her career section though. The career section is simply a summary of her career. And this does not include TV ratings and the sort since they are not really RELEVANT to her career, but only to her shows. Another thing is that filming details should be left alone their own articles since it has nothing to do with the evolution of her career. Same with the tv ratings. You can't just simply say "the tv ratings made her attain roles out of Disney" because that would lead to suspicion on where did you get that info. Then, you can't just simply say that "THE WIZARDS MOVIE WAS THE MOST-WATCHED DCOM IN HISTORY" so? It should be left to its own article since the record it achieved is not only credited to Gomez. I hope other editors will read and understand this. [[User:Kikkokalabud|Kikkokalabud]] ([[User talk:Kikkokalabud|talk]])

: While I do agree with you on the 'tv ratings' I think that information such as: "The show debuted on October 12, 2007. The series has an average of over 4 million per-episode<ref>{{cite web|url=http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/02/17/disney-channel-shines-with-night-of-stars-programming-event/12981 |work=TVByTheNumbers.com |date=2009-02-17 |accessdate=2009-10-26 |title=Disney Channel Shines with “Night of Stars” Programming Event}}</ref> and the show's all-time highest viewership of an audience of over 6 million.<ref>{{cite web |url=http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/06/27/princess-protection-program-is-tv%E2%80%99s-no-1-entertainment-telecast-of-2009-in-kids-6-11-and-tweens-9-14/21543 |title=Princess Protection Program is TV’s No. 1 Entertainment Telecast of 2009 in Kids 6-11 and Tweens 9-14 |date=2009-06-27 |work=ByTheNumbers.com |accessdate-2009-10-26}}</ref>" should be added. [[User:Ashley92995|Ashley92995]] ([[User talk:Ashley92995|talk]]) 07:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== Music: Hannah Montana: If cupid had a heart ==

Didn't she sing that song? [[Special:Contributions/12.218.12.255|12.218.12.255]] ([[User talk:12.218.12.255|talk]]) 00:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)Lemony_Snicket
:No she didn't. She did the physical performance, the vocals were performed by another person. --[[User talk:NrDg|NrDg]] 18:29, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


But it sounds like her -LLR <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.114.144.24|68.114.144.24]] ([[User talk:68.114.144.24|talk]]) 21:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Yes she sang that song i have proof! <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.255.160.97|71.255.160.97]] ([[User talk:71.255.160.97|talk]]) 00:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


IT'S NOT SELENA GOMEZ AND IT DOESN'T SOUND A THING LIKE HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.171.70.92|67.171.70.92]] ([[User talk:67.171.70.92|talk]]) 02:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Selena sang in her Christmas 'O8 video greeting acapella. It's not possible that she has some sort of amplifier or any other technological stuff. Her voice there is good and sounds like her record. Why would she record an album if the singer is not her? It would be useless and pointless to release the record without crediting the real singer. So most probably, she sang the songs in her record and this song.

That is sooooooooooooooooooooooo not her! I'm a total righter not a total wronger. Did u buy her cd? Uh no! well ur wrong! That's not her! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.171.0.148|72.171.0.148]] ([[User talk:72.171.0.148|talk]]) 15:56, 20 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

IT ISN'T HER IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN GET A CLUE STARRING LINDSEY LOHAN AND BRENDA SONG THE SAME SONG IS IN THE BACKGROUND <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.174.166.195|99.174.166.195]] ([[User talk:99.174.166.195|talk]]) 00:11, 24 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Okay I think people need to calm down here. I have no doubt Selena Gomez can sing the song, but the singer Julie Griffin has an album by the same name with the song on - here a link to it on Rhapsody - [http://www.rhapsody.com/julie-griffin/if-cupid-had-a-heart Rhapsody.com]. If you have listened to Selena's other singles you might realise the voice on 'If Cupid Had A Heart' sounds different to all her other songs. Anyway I think you are straying from the point - Selena Gomez is a good singer - you should all be focusing on that not on petty issues like did she really sing the song. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:RockTheWorld09|RockTheWorld09]] ([[User talk:RockTheWorld09|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/RockTheWorld09|contribs]]) 16:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

i dont think whether or not she sang the song is "petty", and no, i dont think she sang it. BUT she has a gr8 voice, so i doesnt matter if she did lip-sync on one song. ROCK ON SELLY! *dream on*dance on* 00:14, 1 December 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Taylor Lane|Taylor Lane]] ([[User talk:Taylor Lane|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taylor Lane|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
I am not sure whether or not she sang the song, but it didn't sound like her. But, either way, I don't think it needs to be mentioned because, if she did sing the song, she only sang part of it. 8:42, 19 January 2010--[[User:Mackenziealice|Mackenziealice]] ([[User talk:Mackenziealice|talk]]) 15:43, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

== Selena's personal life ==

You should of added about Her brakeing up with Nick Jonas.her mom had her at 16 if you dont believe me add it up her mom is 32 now which would make her 16 when she had her.I dislike the show but I like her I have Her poster on my door my friend is obessedwith her <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/4.229.42.85|4.229.42.85]] ([[User talk:4.229.42.85|talk]]) 16:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:This article is about Selena Gomez, not her mother. No reliable source (gossip sites are not reliable) makes mention of any relationship with Jonas and the principals deny it. --[[User talk:NrDg|NrDg]] 20:42, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

"brakeing up?" Oh, yes. You seem very credible. I believe you. < / sarcasm > You must not have been following the news too closely; there has not been any confirmation of a relationship between them. They made that video and then from that fans and journalists feeding off of fan frenzy began creating a relationship between them, much like with many male-female friendships in Hollywood. If there is something that Selena does, other than a quote, that could possibly, and reasonably, include the age of her mother when she was born, then I'm sure it will be added.[[Special:Contributions/75.179.161.245|75.179.161.245]] ([[User talk:75.179.161.245|talk]]) 01:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't the fact that she wears a promisary ring and is saving herself until marriage be mentioned? It's obviously an important aspect of her personal life to her.<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:84.71.29.190|84.71.29.190]] ([[User talk:84.71.29.190|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/84.71.29.190|contribs]]) 16:18, May 29, 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

On June 5th, 2009 Selena Gomez twittered, "I'm gonna move to Indiana. Is that cool Indiana?" Therefore, she is moving to Indiana. I got that from her personal Twitter account. That is really important because moving is a big change, especially moving across the country. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emg123123|Emg123123]] ([[User talk:Emg123123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Emg123123|contribs]]) 20:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:Moving is not very important, and i honestly don't think shes moving just because she said so on Twitter. [[User:Frehley|<font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">Fre</font>]][[User:Frehley/Guestbook|<font face="Old English" color="C80815" size="4">h</font>]][[User talk:Frehley|<font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">ley</font>]] 21:37, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

:I don't think you completely get twitter . . . I can't figure out how to explain how you know, but she WAS joking. There are certain things she says on Twitter, though, that could be put in here as fact, though they are not really encyclopedic.[[Special:Contributions/75.179.161.245|75.179.161.245]] ([[User talk:75.179.161.245|talk]]) 04:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

In the newest article of Seventeen, Selena Gomez did admit to dating Nick and implied that he broke up with her and having a feud with Miley last year. Not sure if you want to add that... <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.11.186.170|99.11.186.170]] ([[User talk:99.11.186.170|talk]]) 19:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

She is now an active member on Yahoo Answers. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Sgomez22|Sgomez22]] ([[User talk:Sgomez22|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Sgomez22|contribs]]) 08:15, 6 September 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

Besides basketball, Selena Gomez is also a big fan of soccer. She is known to be a big fan of [[Real Madrid C.F.]]. Her favorite soccer player is [[Cristiano Ronaldo]], who is one of the best soccer players in the world, also playing for Real Madrid. He happens to be Selena's second big crush after [[Shia Labeouf]]. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ryanthegreat10|Ryanthegreat10]] ([[User talk:Ryanthegreat10|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ryanthegreat10|contribs]]) 03:23, 14 November 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Filmography ==

Selana also appeared in "The Hills" in Season 3 Episode 13 <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Emilyyt|Emilyyt]] ([[User talk:Emilyyt|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Emilyyt|contribs]]) 23:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Age.. ==

Can someone update the page showing she is 18? [[Special:Contributions/69.14.91.247|69.14.91.247]] ([[User talk:69.14.91.247|talk]]) 20:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
:Age calculations are automatic based on birthdate. At this time, she has only been 17 for a couple of weeks.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 20:09, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

SHE IS NOT 18!! SHE'S 17! SHE TURNED 17 ON JULY 22ND!!!!

You are mistaken she turned 18 Last July STUPID! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.171.0.148|72.171.0.148]] ([[User talk:72.171.0.148|talk]]) 20:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

No, ur wrong. in the first season of WOWP she was referred to as 14 years old. That was 3 years ago. Thus, she should be 17, turning 18 next year. DUH <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.35.179.194|173.35.179.194]] ([[User talk:173.35.179.194|talk]]) 01:15, 6 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Controversy? ==

I propose we delete the controversey section as it is short and poorly written. Plus it's not much of a controversy - just girls wearing bikinis. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.11.186.170|99.11.186.170]] ([[User talk:99.11.186.170|talk]]) 18:55, 13 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->



I think selena is fabulas!!! Stick with it peeps! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.171.0.148|72.171.0.148]] ([[User talk:72.171.0.148|talk]]) 20:36, 19 October 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Selena Gomez discography ==

I am proposing a new article entitled Selena Gomez discography. With several charting singles, now a debut album, participation in soundtracks and compilation albums and music videos, Selena Gomez has plenty of information for her own discography page. I however need conscientious, please share your opinion. --[[User:Ipodnano05|Ipodnano05]] ([[User talk:Ipodnano05|talk]]) 23:27, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Only two of her solo songs have charted. --[[User:Randolph3|Randolph3]] 23:31, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Tell Me Something I Don't Know, One and the Same, Magic and Send It On on the Hot 100, New Classic under the Bubbling Under Hot 100 and Cruella de Vil on the Pop 100. That's five charting singles. Other discographies like Mitchel Musso's have less. --[[User:Ipodnano05|Ipodnano05]] ([[User talk:Ipodnano05|talk]]) 05:13, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

*I'm all for it. Shes going to be releasing more music in the future anyways. It'll make more sense to release it now.[[User:Nikiangelz|Sunshine ☼]] ([[User talk:Nikiangelz|talk]]) 19:15, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

*I think it's a pretty good decision for her own Discography page. She has released singles (all of which are charted too), done songs for various soundtracks and she's now even debuting her album. It makes pretty good sense for a discography page.

*She already has many songs, and I think that she needs a discography page. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.145.138.183|99.145.138.183]] ([[User talk:99.145.138.183|talk]]) 03:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

With this I believe a discography page may be made, feel free to help and edit. --[[User:Ipodnano05|Ipodnano05]] ([[User talk:Ipodnano05|talk]]) 20:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

*Oppose. 5 soundtrack appearances, 7 music videos, and 4 singles. Only two of her songs have charted. Keep it merged to this page for now. When she has more charted singles, perhaps then an article can be created. But not now. <font face="Trebuchet MS, Century Gothic, Verdana">[[User:Pokerdance|'''POKER'''dance]]</font> <sup>[[User talk:Pokerdance|talk]]</sup>/<small>[[Special:Contributions/Pokerdance|contribs]]</small> 21:31, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

*One and the Same, Send it On have also charted. Besides, charted songs aren't the only requirements needed. She has made enough music so far with soundtracks, singles and her album. So a Discography page can and should be made. --[[User:GalaxyTurboTwister|GalaxyTurboTwister]]

*I think it should be done. She has been involved in several music projects, many of which have charted. The only thing I have a problem with is that her new music is under name "Selena Gomez & The Scene", so would her discography page have sections for The Scene and solo projects? [[User:Akcvtt|Akcvtt]] ([[User talk:Akcvtt|talk]]) 02:00, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

*Strongly oppose this. A discography page for 4 singles and 5 soundtrack appearances? Broken up and fragmented into a weird little pieces because she has never done an entire project on her own, so you are going to have a little table for TV show songs, and a little one for soundtracks, and one for done with a group, and one for this and one for that? Makes no sense at all to me.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 02:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

*I think we should once her album comes out--[[User:Debbie rocks|Debbie rocks]] ([[User talk:Debbie rocks|talk]]) 00:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

*I think it should be done. She has now 7 singles, 11 soundtrack appearances, a debut-album and 7 music videos...! other singers like Demi Lovato have not more singles. (sorry for the englisch, I'm from germany.)-- [[Special:Contributions/84.150.202.197|84.150.202.197]] ([[User talk:84.150.202.197|talk]]) 15:07, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

*I think that her discography should have it's own section. [[User:Ashley92995|Ashley92995]] ([[User talk:Ashley92995|talk]]) 22:07, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

*Selena gomez Discography <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Gagawiki|Gagawiki]] ([[User talk:Gagawiki|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Gagawiki|contribs]]) 02:52, 27 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

*I definately think that Selena Gomez should get her own discography page. Not having many charting singles, as some people are saying, isn't a good excuse not to give her one. I know some artists on here with no charting singles yet they get they own discography page. Besides if she had a discography page it would be able to give more information on her singles, albums, and contributions to soundtracks.--[[User:RockTheWorld09|RockTheWorld09]] ([[User talk:RockTheWorld09|talk]]) 16:21, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

== Birthplace and race ==

Why dibt Hi!!! Though not a bid deal, one fact is incorrect. Selena is Mexican, definitely. And her MOTHER is half-white and half-Mexican. She is just Mexican. Thanks. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Angellebrad|Angellebrad]] ([[User talk:Angellebrad|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Angellebrad|contribs]]) 18:24, 30 September 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:I have heard that her mother, Mandy, was full Italian American, while the dad was Mexican American. And also, many biographies state she was born in NYC but moved to Texas as a baby? (PEOPLE.com says she was born and raised in [[Grand Prairie, Texas]], which is what this article uses as a source.) <font color="#fe2c96">★</font><b><font color="#ba6afd">[[User:Dasani|Dasani]]</font></b><font color="#fe2c96">★</font> 23:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
:Erm I have no idea about what race her parents are but I know one thing for certain, Selena Gomez is American. She was born in America which by law makes her American, although if her parents were Mexican then you could say she has Mexican ethnicity, but she would still be classed as American.--[[User:RockTheWorld09|RockTheWorld09]] ([[User talk:RockTheWorld09|talk]]) 16:12, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

== Taylor Lautner ==

Should there be any mention in the personal life section that she is dating [[Taylor Lautner]], or is that not relevant, or maybe not properly verifiable according to Wikipedia's standards? - [[Special:Contributions/121.208.89.240|121.208.89.240]] ([[User talk:121.208.89.240|talk]]) 07:14, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

:I don't think so, since it's never been confirmed. [[Special:Contributions/96.235.21.29|96.235.21.29]] ([[User talk:96.235.21.29|talk]]) 18:25, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

she never went out w/ taylor. when being interviewed and asked whether or not she was dating taylor she said she was single. not sure wat that site is, but i think i could get it. hollywood just wants to create drama, and according to them selly should be dating so they create all this stuff just cuz they walked together and looked in each others general direction. i do that all the time w/ guys im not dating!! come on, you cant believe everything hollywood speculates for drama!!!! Dreamer 03:24, 11 November 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Taylor Lane|Taylor Lane]] ([[User talk:Taylor Lane|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taylor Lane|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== official website ==

why does the official website short cut go to face book she has an official website. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ltmssbb|Ltmssbb]] ([[User talk:Ltmssbb|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ltmssbb|contribs]]) 01:56, 26 October 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:She doesn't have an official website. She purchased a domain and had it redirect to Facebook (some people also do the same with MySpace). The link says selenagomez.com. Maybe she had one in the past. <font color="#fe2c96">★</font><b><font color="#ba6afd">[[User:Dasani|Dasani]]</font></b><font color="#fe2c96">★</font> 21:53, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

:Yah, I was suprised by it, only like last month she had a official website www.selenagomez.com, which was one page that linked to her myspace, youtube, facebook, and twitter, but now it just redirects to her facebook account -[[User:Setsuna29|Setsuna29]] ([[User talk:Setsuna29|talk]]) 02:45, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

{{tlf|editsemiprotected}} I suggest adding Selena Gomez & The Scene's Twitter to this section. http://www.twitter.com/SelenaNTheScene as confirmed by Selena's Twitter @selenagomez prior to her album release.[[User:Lacy628|Lacy628]] ([[User talk:Lacy628|talk]]) 10:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)Disney Fan Promotions <ref>http://www.twitter.com/selenagomez</ref>
:It would be more appropriate to put that on [[Selena Gomez and the Scene]] rather than Gomez's biography. [[User_talk:Josh Parris|Josh Parris]] 12:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

== Her First Non-Disney Film ==

Okay when talking about Selena's new film Ramona and Beezus there are several mistakes that I can make out. Erm for one it is badly written so some of it doesn't make sense, like this bit:<blockquote>
In February, 2009, Gomez began singed onto star as one of the two female leads in Ramona and Beezus a film adaption of the children's novel series by Beverly Cleary.
</blockquote>
There shouldn't really be a comma before '2009', and 'Gomez began singed onto' doesn't make a whole lot of sense - I'm not entirely sure what it's supposed to say but is it meant to mean she's been signed to star as one of two female leads.<br />Okay, second is that it says Ramona and Beezus will be Gomez's first non-disney film. Which isn't actually true. It will be her second as the film Another Cinderella Story, in which she plays Mary, was done by Warner Bros - not Disney.<br />Please can you review this information as the first bit's hard to understand properly and the second bit's misleading.--[[User:RockTheWorld09|RockTheWorld09]] ([[User talk:RockTheWorld09|talk]]) 15:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
:Correct the errors [[User:Gnowxilef|Hello! Goodbye!]] ([[User talk:Gnowxilef|talk]]) 18:49, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
The movie Selena will star in, "What Boys Want", will be about a teenage girl (Selena) who can read boys thoughts. I don't know, someone might want to add that. 8:17, 19 January 2010 <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mackenziealice|Mackenziealice]] ([[User talk:Mackenziealice|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mackenziealice|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== Recent edits ==

[[Kikkokalabud]] has been removing - what I feel is notable information to Gomez' page. While I do put into consideration that most film/tv information isn't always notable, '''some information is''' - like the information that currently appears on her page - like for example('s): The film's revenue, critcial recetion, records, etc, TV's ratings, viewership, start and end date, number of episodes in total, etc. [[User:Ashley92995|Ashley92995]] ([[User talk:Ashley92995|talk]]) 23:29, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
:The information isn't being removed from Wikipedia, it's being removed from this individual article. That's why we have wikilinks. People that are interested in knowing more detail about something can click the link and see it. Including all this detail in the artist article actually makes it harder to see the information about the artist because it gets drowned in details about individual projects.&mdash;[[User:Kww|Kww]]([[User talk:Kww|talk]]) 12:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

== "falling down" ==

i love the new song falling down.she is a geat singer!do yall think so?♥ <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Jackie2706|Jackie2706]] ([[User talk:Jackie2706|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Jackie2706|contribs]]) 00:55, 20 November 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
how do you make a heart?? & yah, its ATHOME!! so is naturally!! and ALL her music...but this isnt a forum, you should write about just editing not just discussing the topic, if you know what i mean!! *dream on*dance on* 05:55, 27 December 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Taylor Lane|Taylor Lane]] ([[User talk:Taylor Lane|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taylor Lane|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Yeah, I love Falling Down! Selena is a great singer, but her band is great as well. 8:20, 19 January 2010

== Complication album? ==

I assume this means "compilation" and should be corrected. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.80.168.252|66.80.168.252]] ([[User talk:66.80.168.252|talk]]) 21:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

:{{done}} [[User:Frehley|<font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">Fre</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Frehley|<font face="Old English" color="C80815" size="4">h</font>]][[User talk:Frehley|<font face="Old English" color="0d254c" size="4">ley</font>]] 07:39, 29 November 2009 (UTC)


== About including "songwriter" in the lede sentence ==
== Picture ==


[[MOS:ROLEBIO]] states that only the most notable of roles/professions/occupations should be stated in the lede sentence in describing the subject. While Gomez does have songwriting credits across her albums, the one problem I see is there is '''no mention at all in the article''' expounding on her songwriting artistry, something that is definitely not lacking in articles about other artists who are notable songwriters, like [[Taylor Swift]], [[Lionel Richie]], [[Carole King]] or [[Alanis Morissette]], for example, among lots of others. Examples of what can be included are their inspiration to write (or compose, in terms of the music itself compared to the lyrics) and whether they have been recognized via awards or other accolades related to songwriting (like an ASCAP award or the Grammy award for Song of the Year). But the point is that it makes no sense to state her being a songwriter if there is no coverage at all in the article demonstrating notability about it. [[User:MPFitz1968|MPFitz1968]] ([[User talk:MPFitz1968|talk]]) 18:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
I realy hate the picture that is on the page.I would much rather have a picture were Selena is more natural. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pretty Girl 101|Pretty Girl 101]] ([[User talk:Pretty Girl 101|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pretty Girl 101|contribs]]) 17:10, 13 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:It definitely surprised me to see how the "artistry" section says nothing about lyrics, themes, or anything else that pertains to songwriting. That would be an ideal place to elaborate on them. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 19:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
== O.K. ==


We've been over this so many times on Wikipedia. The first sentence of the lede lists the most notable professions of the artist. The infobox lists the most notable as well as secondary professions. Selena Gomez has 73 songwriting credits, incl. many credits pertaining to her most recent material. She is a regular co-writer of some of her work, and songwriter is factually one of her main professions, "notable" or not. This is just to let readers know she is a singer and songwriter (as opposed to singer-songwriter). [[User:Israell|Israell]] ([[User talk:Israell|talk]]) 06:27, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
Ok,I think 2 pics should be switched how do i do it? <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pretty Girl 101|Pretty Girl 101]] ([[User talk:Pretty Girl 101|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pretty Girl 101|contribs]]) 18:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


:I only added "songwriter" to the infobox, not the lede (another editor added it to the lede). And I've included a source, which is sufficient. The fact is, more and more and more singers these days also write or co-write some of their songs at least. It's becoming part for the course and it's a big part of their artistry. Without their contributions to the writing, the songs would be incomplete. [[User:Israell|Israell]] ([[User talk:Israell|talk]]) 06:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
== I PROTEST ==
::Selena Gomez is, and may be, a regular writer of her work. But the ASCAP repertoire, as a source, is not sufficient to underline, and support, the mention of songwriters in the role bio. There needs to be sourcing and decent sized, reliable, and comprehensive prose in the artistry section.
::[[User:Ben0006|Ben &#124; he/him]] ([[User talk:Ben0006|talk]]) 18:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
:::Personally, I have never heard anyone refer to Gomez as a “songwriter”, nor have I found any articles describing her as such. She seems more like an artist that camps write songs for. Of course, I don't want to undermine Gomez's abilities as a songwriter, but that seems to be the general perception about her or at least what I've heard so far. [[User:Mirrored7|Mirrored7]] ([[User talk:Mirrored7|talk]]) 00:46, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
::::{{reply to|Ben0006|Mirrored7|SNUGGUMS}} I've just expanded the artistry section to include Gomez' songwriting craft. [[User:Israell|Israell]] ([[User talk:Israell|talk]]) 04:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)


{{reply to|Watagwaan|MPFitz1968}} 1. The article has a "Songwriting" section that elaborates on Selena Gomez' songwriting. It includes commentaries from her peers in the industry who vouch for her songwriting. 2. Selena Gomez now has 76 songwriting credits. 3.She may not be a "[[singer-songwriter]]" (as in a songwriter who authors and composes most or all of their work alone and oftentimes provide the sole musical accompaniment to an entire song), but she is still a "singer AND songwriter" (she fits the criteria for the latter: singer <u>and</u> songwriter). Many songs these days like Lil Nas X's "[[Industry Baby]]" have up to 9 co-writers; those who co-write are songwriters. It is one of her main occupations, so it is relevant for the infobox. [[User:Israell|Israell]] ([[User talk:Israell|talk]]) 08:20, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
the scene article should not have been taken off!!!! that was a GGOOOODD article!! i miss it!! COME BACK!!! *dream on*dance on* 05:53, 27 December 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Taylor Lane|Taylor Lane]] ([[User talk:Taylor Lane|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taylor Lane|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->


== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 December 2024 ==
== PICTURE? ==


{{edit extended-protected|Selena Gomez|answered=yes}}
ok, so the pic in the Philanthropy section should be her main pic! its a great pic!!!!! *dream on*dance on* 06:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
In the "Other Ventures" part of the page, more specifically, in the "Other charity work" topic, the last paragraph refering to the 2023 Hamas-Israel conflict, this specific part of the paragraph "Both Gomez and Rare Beauty were heavily criticized for their misleading statement which implied solidarity with the people of Gaza, whilst they donated funds to Magen David Adom, which is an auxiliary service to the Israel Defense Forces who are implicated in war crimes against the people of Gaza." should be deleted given the fact it was proven Rare Beauty had donated an amount to a Pro-Palestine foundation.
yah, im doing that *dream on*dance on* 06:01, 27 December 2009 (UTC) <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Taylor Lane|Taylor Lane]] ([[User talk:Taylor Lane|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Taylor Lane|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Source that proves this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/usshowbiz/article-12717293/amp/Selena-Gomezs-make-brand-Rare-Beauty-shares-pro-Palestine-message-Instagram-singer-slammed-post-said-deleting-app.html [[Special:Contributions/95.93.126.124|95.93.126.124]] ([[User talk:95.93.126.124|talk]]) 22:02, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
I agree, the picture in the Philanthropy section is really cute and is better than the main picture. However, notice that the Philanthropy picture is listed that it was taken in 2008 and the main picture is from 2009. It has to be current. So, yeah, I agree the Philanthropy picture is better, but it is not as current as the main picture (I think). 8:29, 19 January 2010 --[[User:Mackenziealice|Mackenziealice]] ([[User talk:Mackenziealice|talk]]) 15:30, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
: Daily Mail is not considered a reliable source by wikipedia [[User:Rainsage|Rainsage]] ([[User talk:Rainsage|talk]]) 08:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


== Changing the page picture ==
== Philanthropy ==


{{Edit extended-protected|Selena Gomez|answered=yes}}
I realy like the picture that is with philanthropy and if it could be switched with the main it would be great. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pretty Girl 101|Pretty Girl 101]] ([[User talk:Pretty Girl 101|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pretty Girl 101|contribs]]) 18:24, 31 December 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Is it possible to change the page picture to this one? https://metropolitanafm.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/441495590_1951471295309335_2760973742663084089_n.jpg


Source: https://metropolitanafm.com.br/life-style/festival-de-cannes-2024-selena-gomez-surge-deslumbrante-com-mais-dois-looks-no-evento-confira [[User:Anoriette|Anoriette]] ([[User talk:Anoriette|talk]]) 22:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)
== Where she was born ==
:{{not done}}:<!-- Template:EEp --> Not possible, unless it has been released under certain copyright licences. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|CMD]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 02:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)


::There's no indication this photo is free of copyright, so using it isn't feasible. [[User:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b>]] ([[User talk:SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">talk</b>]] / [[Special:Contributions/SNUGGUMS|<b style="color:#009900">edits</b>]]) 04:11, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Selena was born in New York City but almost right away moved to Grand Prairie,Texas I don't know where it says she was born but she was born in NEW YORK CITY. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Pretty Girl 101|Pretty Girl 101]] ([[User talk:Pretty Girl 101|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pretty Girl 101|contribs]]) 19:07, 1 January 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
I agree, I think there should be something about how she was born in New York City but then moved to Texas. 8:21, 19 January 2010 <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mackenziealice|Mackenziealice]] ([[User talk:Mackenziealice|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mackenziealice|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Ya,I agree too!--[[Special:Contributions/99.199.56.80|99.199.56.80]] ([[User talk:99.199.56.80|talk]]) 02:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC)


== Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 December 2024 ==
== Associated Acts ==


{{edit extended-protected|Selena Gomez|answered=yes}}
Currently, it is listed that Selena Gomez associated acts are 'Selena Gomez and the Scene' and Demi Lovato. But it used to be that her associated acts were: Demi Lovato, Miley Cyrus, Forever the Sickest Kids, Drew Seeley(I think?), and maybe some others. I'm not sure which is correct, but I just wanted to point it out. 8:25, 19 January 2010 <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Mackenziealice|Mackenziealice]] ([[User talk:Mackenziealice|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mackenziealice|contribs]]) </span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Remove the “war crimes” from the mention of Magan David Olam. This is a rescue service that is not a military operation. The resources cited only mention controversy not war crimes, as no such meat crimes exist. [[User:TellTheTruth1983|TellTheTruth1983]] ([[User talk:TellTheTruth1983|talk]]) 22:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
:{{done}}<!-- Template:EEp --> The phrase "war crimes" is not in the [[Magen David Adom]] article nor the three reference cites. [[User:LizardJr8|LizardJr8]] ([[User talk:LizardJr8|talk]]) 00:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 16:34, 25 December 2024

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About including "songwriter" in the lede sentence

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MOS:ROLEBIO states that only the most notable of roles/professions/occupations should be stated in the lede sentence in describing the subject. While Gomez does have songwriting credits across her albums, the one problem I see is there is no mention at all in the article expounding on her songwriting artistry, something that is definitely not lacking in articles about other artists who are notable songwriters, like Taylor Swift, Lionel Richie, Carole King or Alanis Morissette, for example, among lots of others. Examples of what can be included are their inspiration to write (or compose, in terms of the music itself compared to the lyrics) and whether they have been recognized via awards or other accolades related to songwriting (like an ASCAP award or the Grammy award for Song of the Year). But the point is that it makes no sense to state her being a songwriter if there is no coverage at all in the article demonstrating notability about it. MPFitz1968 (talk) 18:52, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It definitely surprised me to see how the "artistry" section says nothing about lyrics, themes, or anything else that pertains to songwriting. That would be an ideal place to elaborate on them. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 19:26, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

We've been over this so many times on Wikipedia. The first sentence of the lede lists the most notable professions of the artist. The infobox lists the most notable as well as secondary professions. Selena Gomez has 73 songwriting credits, incl. many credits pertaining to her most recent material. She is a regular co-writer of some of her work, and songwriter is factually one of her main professions, "notable" or not. This is just to let readers know she is a singer and songwriter (as opposed to singer-songwriter). Israell (talk) 06:27, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I only added "songwriter" to the infobox, not the lede (another editor added it to the lede). And I've included a source, which is sufficient. The fact is, more and more and more singers these days also write or co-write some of their songs at least. It's becoming part for the course and it's a big part of their artistry. Without their contributions to the writing, the songs would be incomplete. Israell (talk) 06:58, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Selena Gomez is, and may be, a regular writer of her work. But the ASCAP repertoire, as a source, is not sufficient to underline, and support, the mention of songwriters in the role bio. There needs to be sourcing and decent sized, reliable, and comprehensive prose in the artistry section.
Ben | he/him (talk) 18:43, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Personally, I have never heard anyone refer to Gomez as a “songwriter”, nor have I found any articles describing her as such. She seems more like an artist that camps write songs for. Of course, I don't want to undermine Gomez's abilities as a songwriter, but that seems to be the general perception about her or at least what I've heard so far. Mirrored7 (talk) 00:46, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ben0006, Mirrored7, and SNUGGUMS: I've just expanded the artistry section to include Gomez' songwriting craft. Israell (talk) 04:10, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Watagwaan and MPFitz1968: 1. The article has a "Songwriting" section that elaborates on Selena Gomez' songwriting. It includes commentaries from her peers in the industry who vouch for her songwriting. 2. Selena Gomez now has 76 songwriting credits. 3.She may not be a "singer-songwriter" (as in a songwriter who authors and composes most or all of their work alone and oftentimes provide the sole musical accompaniment to an entire song), but she is still a "singer AND songwriter" (she fits the criteria for the latter: singer and songwriter). Many songs these days like Lil Nas X's "Industry Baby" have up to 9 co-writers; those who co-write are songwriters. It is one of her main occupations, so it is relevant for the infobox. Israell (talk) 08:20, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 8 December 2024

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In the "Other Ventures" part of the page, more specifically, in the "Other charity work" topic, the last paragraph refering to the 2023 Hamas-Israel conflict, this specific part of the paragraph "Both Gomez and Rare Beauty were heavily criticized for their misleading statement which implied solidarity with the people of Gaza, whilst they donated funds to Magen David Adom, which is an auxiliary service to the Israel Defense Forces who are implicated in war crimes against the people of Gaza." should be deleted given the fact it was proven Rare Beauty had donated an amount to a Pro-Palestine foundation. Source that proves this: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/usshowbiz/article-12717293/amp/Selena-Gomezs-make-brand-Rare-Beauty-shares-pro-Palestine-message-Instagram-singer-slammed-post-said-deleting-app.html 95.93.126.124 (talk) 22:02, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Daily Mail is not considered a reliable source by wikipedia Rainsage (talk) 08:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Changing the page picture

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Is it possible to change the page picture to this one? https://metropolitanafm.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/441495590_1951471295309335_2760973742663084089_n.jpg

Source: https://metropolitanafm.com.br/life-style/festival-de-cannes-2024-selena-gomez-surge-deslumbrante-com-mais-dois-looks-no-evento-confira Anoriette (talk) 22:41, 8 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: Not possible, unless it has been released under certain copyright licences. CMD (talk) 02:05, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's no indication this photo is free of copyright, so using it isn't feasible. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 04:11, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 December 2024

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Remove the “war crimes” from the mention of Magan David Olam. This is a rescue service that is not a military operation. The resources cited only mention controversy not war crimes, as no such meat crimes exist. TellTheTruth1983 (talk) 22:50, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done The phrase "war crimes" is not in the Magen David Adom article nor the three reference cites. LizardJr8 (talk) 00:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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