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== Season 2 group photo - FYI ==
== Is Torchwood back in 2020 ==

Due to inept editing by the original graphic artist in assembling people who were not actually together in the same room, that group photograph was discussed on the blog [[Photoshop Disasters]] in 2008: http://www.psdisasters.com/2008/11/torchwood-retractable-thumbs.html#disqus_thread I thought some of you might be interested. Thanks, [[User:Wordreader|Wordreader]] ([[User talk:Wordreader|talk]]) 04:33, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

== Homosexual, Bisexual,Omnisexual ==


Could you give absolute confirmation that Torchwood will return to our screens in 2020? [[User:DoctorWhoEditor2|DoctorWhoEditor2]] ([[User talk:DoctorWhoEditor2|talk]]) 18:16, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
Over the last couple of days I've seen a couple of edits/reversions similar to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Torchwood&diff=575836501&oldid=575792727 this]. Can the participants stop because it's verging on an edit war over this section of text. => [[User:Spudgfsh|<span style="color:green">Spudgfsh</span>]] ([[User Talk:Spudgfsh|<span style="color:red">Text Me!</span>]]) 12:06, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
:The term as used in the show doesn't mean anything outside of the show, at least to the uninitiated. In fact, it only means anything to fans of the show who have read a lot of interviews with John Barrowman. "Omnisexual relationships" might please fans, but it's not really a theme the show explores. "Gay and bisexual relationships" is both true and simple.[[User:Zythe|Zythe]] ([[User talk:Zythe|talk]]) 12:20, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
:: Seems to me the Tosh/Mary relationship in “[[Greeks Bearing Gifts (Torchwood)|Greeks Bearing Gifts]]” was the furthest the show has explored that theme. (Despite Captain Jack’s amorousness toward every sapient lifeform in the universe being a running gag on ''Doctor Who'', he doesn’t get to flirt with aliens much on ''Torchwood''.) I think we should delete the word because it’s not a “prominent theme” of the show, but not out of mere kneejerk [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Torchwood&diff=575836501&oldid=575499375 language purism]. ~ [[User:Robin Lionheart|Röbin Liönheart]] ([[User talk:Robin Lionheart|talk]]) 19:38, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
::: Disdain of flabby language is perfectly justifiable ;) [[User:Zythe|Zythe]] ([[User talk:Zythe|talk]]) 14:52, 6 October 2013 (UTC)


== Chibnall as showrunner? ==
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@[[User:TheDoctorWho|TheDoctorWho]] I'm not convinced we should be listing Chibnall as a showrunner for Torchwood, on the basis of a single outlying passing mention that describes him as such. The first line of [[showrunner]] suggests that a showrunner must be an executive producer, which I think holds true given commonly understood production aspect of the position. Hence Chibnall being far more commonly described as "head writer" for the first two series. I've not seen any substantial indication that he ran the day-to-day production, and the article prose doesn't indicate that either. [[User:U-Mos|U-Mos]] ([[User talk:U-Mos|talk]]) 07:11, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
== Ended for 'personal reasons?' ==


:I wouldn't say there's an excess of sources crediting him as such, but there are a few others. [https://www.gamesradar.com/camelote28099s-merlin-has-a-major-makeover/ This GamesRadar+ source] for example. [https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/sci-fi/doctor-who-torchwood-return/ Barrowman also refers to him as such in this quote that Radio Times has]. I can't personally speak for the executive producer credit. While I know that IMDb isn't a reliable source, and I would need to actually verify he's credited as such, [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1163823/ he does appear to be listed as a co-producer] for the first two series, which means he did serve in some sort of producer-related capacity. Similar to your reference of Wikipedia's page on showrunners, I'll also point out that the [[head writer]] article states "{{tq|In fictional comedy or drama TV shows, this is generally performed by an executive producer, who is usually also the showrunner}}" (emphasis on the term ''generally'' which provides room for exceptions). [[User:TheDoctorWho|<span style="color:#0000ff;">'''The'''</span><span style="color:#0000ff">'''Doctor'''</span><span style="color:#0000ff;">'''Who'''</span>]] [[User talk:TheDoctorWho|(talk)]] 07:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
I think the most notable thing about Torchwood was the fact they managed to derail and destroy one of the most watched TV series' in history. There are countless primary and secondary sources supporting this. 13 episodes, 13 episodes, mini series, mini series. You tell me where the ratings plummeted. ;) Not to mention they kept screwing the time slots and changed the format of the show entirely and took freakin' years between each season, it went from a TV series to two mini series' with one banal narrative across each. But the article doesn't mention anything but it being on permanent hiatus due to personal reasons; which is kind of unbecoming of any article when the details are public knowledge. Just hoping the editors of this article could pick up their game and realistically address the fact this was a lesson of how to destroy a #1 global franchise, because Doctor Who is following the same tac, especially with the years between seasons and changed time slots. It's ratings are also taking a similar hit, and I can foresee it dropping off the radar again because people just can't be arsed watching a show on TV when they stuff around like that and instead will just download it. [[User:BaSH PR0MPT|BaSH PR0MPT]] ([[User talk:BaSH PR0MPT|talk]]) 23:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
::Okay, in that case I think it would be appropriate to have a footnote that includes all these sources, with wording such as "Some sources refer to Chibnall as a showrunner of the first two series due to his [[head writer]] role". I also think Davies should be listed above him, as he'd also be showrunner of the first two series and more indisputably so. [[User:U-Mos|U-Mos]] ([[User talk:U-Mos|talk]]) 08:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
:::I have no objections to that. It's early morning for me, and I'm currently replying on my phone, so I'll make the changes tommorow evening when I have my laptop unless you want to beat me to it. [[User:TheDoctorWho|<span style="color:#0000ff;">'''The'''</span><span style="color:#0000ff">'''Doctor'''</span><span style="color:#0000ff;">'''Who'''</span>]] [[User talk:TheDoctorWho|(talk)]] 08:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
::::All done. [[User:U-Mos|U-Mos]] ([[User talk:U-Mos|talk]]) 10:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 01:46, 7 September 2024

Is Torchwood back in 2020

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Could you give absolute confirmation that Torchwood will return to our screens in 2020? DoctorWhoEditor2 (talk) 18:16, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Chibnall as showrunner?

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@TheDoctorWho I'm not convinced we should be listing Chibnall as a showrunner for Torchwood, on the basis of a single outlying passing mention that describes him as such. The first line of showrunner suggests that a showrunner must be an executive producer, which I think holds true given commonly understood production aspect of the position. Hence Chibnall being far more commonly described as "head writer" for the first two series. I've not seen any substantial indication that he ran the day-to-day production, and the article prose doesn't indicate that either. U-Mos (talk) 07:11, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't say there's an excess of sources crediting him as such, but there are a few others. This GamesRadar+ source for example. Barrowman also refers to him as such in this quote that Radio Times has. I can't personally speak for the executive producer credit. While I know that IMDb isn't a reliable source, and I would need to actually verify he's credited as such, he does appear to be listed as a co-producer for the first two series, which means he did serve in some sort of producer-related capacity. Similar to your reference of Wikipedia's page on showrunners, I'll also point out that the head writer article states "In fictional comedy or drama TV shows, this is generally performed by an executive producer, who is usually also the showrunner" (emphasis on the term generally which provides room for exceptions). TheDoctorWho (talk) 07:42, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, in that case I think it would be appropriate to have a footnote that includes all these sources, with wording such as "Some sources refer to Chibnall as a showrunner of the first two series due to his head writer role". I also think Davies should be listed above him, as he'd also be showrunner of the first two series and more indisputably so. U-Mos (talk) 08:18, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have no objections to that. It's early morning for me, and I'm currently replying on my phone, so I'll make the changes tommorow evening when I have my laptop unless you want to beat me to it. TheDoctorWho (talk) 08:37, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All done. U-Mos (talk) 10:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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