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== [[User:5.187.0.85]] reported by [[User:Darth Stabro]] (Result: /21 blocked for three years) == |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|UNITA}} |
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== [[User:Errejay]] reported by [[User:Willthacheerleader18]] (Result:) == |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|5.187.0.85}} |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Errejay}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' |
'''Previous version reverted to:''' |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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# {{diff2|1268102471|04:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268102408|1268102408]] by [[Special:Contributions/Untamed1910|Untamed1910]] ([[User talk:Untamed1910|talk]])" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Petra_Conti&diff=907827196&oldid=907700834] |
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# {{diff2|1268102394|04:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268102323|1268102323]] by [[Special:Contributions/Untamed1910|Untamed1910]] ([[User talk:Untamed1910|talk]])" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Petra_Conti&diff=907857562&oldid=907855381] |
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# {{diff2|1268102305|04:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268102267|1268102267]] by [[Special:Contributions/Untamed1910|Untamed1910]] ([[User talk:Untamed1910|talk]])" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Petra_Conti&diff=907882170&oldid=907880958] |
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# {{diff2|1268102212|04:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268101988|1268101988]] by [[Special:Contributions/MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]])" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Petra_Conti&diff=907888304&oldid=907886421] |
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# {{diff2|1268101573|04:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268074482|1268074482]] by [[Special:Contributions/MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]])" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Petra_Conti&diff=907993603&oldid=907992035] |
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''' |
'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Petra_Conti] |
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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I and another editor were both reverted multiple times by [[User:Errejay|Errejay]]. I had reached out on the article talk page and the user's personal talk page, after which the reversions continued to happen and my request to start a discussion were ignored. -- [[User:Willthacheerleader18|Willthacheerleader18]] ([[User talk:Willthacheerleader18|talk]]) 17:01, 3 August 2019 (UTC) |
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{{an3|s}}. This happened over a week ago. That having been said, Errejay's responses to the dispute were underwhelming to say the least. Their expanded version lacks citations and fails Wikipedia style and format conventions. Please feel free to relist if this edit war continues. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 18:09, 3 August 2019 (UTC) |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> Vandalism |
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: They are continuing to edit war and ignore the messages about reaching consensus on the talk page. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Petra_Conti&diff=909290973&oldid=909174593] -- [[User:Willthacheerleader18|Willthacheerleader18]] ([[User talk:Willthacheerleader18|talk]]) 01:49, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:{{AN3|b|3 years}} The range {{rangevandal|5.187.0.0/21}} by {{noping|Ahect}} [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 22:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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== [[User:BubbleBabis]] reported by [[Shadowwarrior8]] (Result: No violation) == |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Ahmed al-Sharaa}} <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks| |
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|BubbleBabis}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_al-Sharaa&diff=prev&oldid=1266426756&diffonly=1] |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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Hi i have noticed [[User:Bankster|Bankster]] have been deleting edits make by me. It is not the first time that this user have been doing this as i dont think i am the only user that is facing this issue. I believe he is not too sure of what he deleted is it a correct information. Please look into the matter of this user that is involved in the many deletion on multiple Wikipedia pages. |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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== [[User:Join Sags]] reported by [[User:Nice4What]] (Result: Blocked) == |
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# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_al-Sharaa&diff=next&oldid=1266426756&diffonly=1] (31 December 2024) |
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# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_al-Sharaa&diff=prev&oldid=1267808374] (6 January 2024) |
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# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_al-Sharaa&diff=prev&oldid=1268011297] (7 January 2025) |
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# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Ahmed_al-Sharaa&diff=prev&oldid=1268128777] (8 January 2025) |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BubbleBabis&diff=prev&oldid=1268021536] (7 January 2025) |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|2019 El Paso shooting}} <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Join Sags|User:Nice4What|}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2019_El_Paso_shooting&oldid=909266704] |
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'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:BubbleBabis&diff=prev&oldid=1268158506] |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2019_El_Paso_shooting&type=revision&diff=909267199&oldid=909266704] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2019_El_Paso_shooting&type=revision&diff=909267351&oldid=909267280] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2019_El_Paso_shooting&type=revision&diff=909267423&oldid=909267374] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=2019_El_Paso_shooting&type=revision&diff=909267938&oldid=909267697] |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> The user was warned multiple times to not insert [[WP:BURDEN|poorly sourced]] [[WP:CONTENTIOUS|contentious material]] in a page which is a [[WP:BLP|living person's biography]]. Despite this, the user has continued to insert [[WP:OR|original research]], while making no attempt to refrain from disruptive editing behaviour or initiate a discussion on the talk page.<br /> |
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Editing warring on my user page in response to a 3RR warning ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User%3ANice4What&type=revision&diff=909267519&oldid=909235785] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User%3ANice4What&type=revision&diff=909267718&oldid=909267561]) and at another user's talk page ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AVolunteer_Marek&type=revision&diff=909267641&oldid=908980280] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AVolunteer_Marek&type=revision&diff=909267742&oldid=909267676]). |
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[[User:Shadowwarrior8|Shadowwarrior8]] ([[User talk:Shadowwarrior8|talk]]) 11:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJoin_Sags&type=revision&diff=909267494&oldid=909003230] (warned by two editors) |
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:I've made my position clear. There is NO source that supports your version that between October 2006 and January 2012 he was not a member of any group. The current version is both manipulative (goes from 2006 Mujahideen Shura Council straight to 2012 al-Nusra) and contradicts RS that mention him as member of ISI in that period. There are RS that support my version, none that supports yours. A revision that'd include "2008-2012 ISI" (which would bypass his prison years 2006-08) would be a better solution. But a career infobox that straight-up omits the entire 2006-12 period is unacceptable.--[[User:BubbleBabis|BubbleBabis]] ([[User talk:BubbleBabis|talk]]) 19:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::{{AN3|noex}} And really, this deserves more talking out on the talk page, which hasn't seen any discussion of this for a week (But, that having been said, if it continues like this I or another admin may be less tolerant). [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 23:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::I would like to note the previous discussion about this particular editor, who has a penchant for creating [[WP:HOAX|hoax]]es, adding [[WP:OFFTOPIC|off-topic]] information about al Qaeda to unrelated articles, and a tendency to steal entire sentences from other articles for their additions may be found at [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive368#User BubbleBabis]]. [[User:Aneirinn|Aneirinn]] ([[User talk:Aneirinn|talk]]) 20:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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== [[User:Sokoreq]] reported by [[User:Cambial Yellowing]] (Result: Blocked one week) == |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Science of Identity Foundation}} |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Sokoreq}} |
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:Looks like the user was [[User_talk:Join_Sags#August 2019|just blocked by an admin]]. [[User:Nice4What|Nice4What]] ([[User talk:Nice4What|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Nice4What|contribs]]) – <small>(Don't forget to share a [[Help:Notifications/Thanks|Thanks]] <span style="color:#4dac8b;">♥</span>)</small> 09:10, 4 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::{{AN3|b}} – 24 hours for edit warring by [[User:Randykitty]]. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] ([[User talk:EdJohnston|talk]]) 16:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' |
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== [[User:Cognissonance]] reported by [[User:Mclarenfan17]] (Result: No violation) == |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Tenet (film)}} <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Cognissonance}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tenet_%28film%29&type=revision&diff=909142618&oldid=909055999] |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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# {{diff2|1268163705|11:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Reverted 2 edits by [[Special:Contributions/Cambial Yellowing|Cambial Yellowing]] ([[User talk:Cambial Yellowing|talk]]) to last revision by Sokoreq" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tenet_%28film%29&type=revision&diff=909201216&oldid=909191756] |
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# {{diff2|1268002110|18:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1267996553|1267996553]] by [[Special:Contributions/Hipal|Hipal]] ([[User talk:Hipal|talk]]) please don't revert, and don't start an edit war. even if you are right, please discuss your concerns on my talk page" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tenet_%28film%29&type=revision&diff=909267075&oldid=909266754] |
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# {{diff2|1267995715|17:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1267995628|1267995628]] by [[Special:Contributions/Hipal|Hipal]] ([[User talk:Hipal|talk]])" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tenet_%28film%29&type=revision&diff=909275229&oldid=909271231] |
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# {{diff2|1267994453|17:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Reverted 1 edit by [[Special:Contributions/Hipal|Hipal]] ([[User talk:Hipal|talk]]) to last revision by Sokoreq" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tenet_%28film%29&type=revision&diff=909280139&oldid=909278255] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tenet_%28film%29&type=revision&diff=909303911&oldid=909298680] |
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'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' |
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# {{diff2|1267996755|18:04, 7 January 2025 (UTC)}} "3rr" |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ACognissonance&type=revision&diff=909268409&oldid=906890830] |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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Cognissonance seems to be completely unwilling or unable to accept that other editors are capable of editing or improving the article in any way—even when those edits are clearly cases of copy-editing aimed at improving the clarity and cohesion of the article such as moving the text from a passive voice to an active voice. Some of this feels alarmingly like [[WP:OWN|ownership behaviour]]. [[User:Mclarenfan17|Mclarenfan17]] ([[User talk:Mclarenfan17|talk]]) 07:49, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:{{an3|nv}} the diffs above seem to relate to different areas of the article, so I don't think a breach of 3RR has occurred. Looks like a content dispute to me, which you should work through on the talk page before escalating. Thanks — [[User:Amakuru|Amakuru]] ([[User talk:Amakuru|talk]]) 07:59, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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== [[User:SashiRolls]] reported by [[User:Snooganssnoogans]] (Result: ) == |
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*{{AN3|b|one week}}. [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 12:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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== [[User:Garudam]] reported by [[User:Someguywhosbored]] (Result: Conditionally declined) == |
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'''Pages:''' {{pagelinks|Jill Stein}}, {{pagelinks|Tulsi Gabbard}} <br /> |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|History of India}} <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Garudam}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [diff preferred, link permitted] |
'''Previous version reverted to:''' [diff preferred, link permitted] |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1267111074] |
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# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1267169956] |
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# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1268173928] |
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# [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1268179316] |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' |
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[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Garudam&diff=prev&oldid=1268180596] he removed my warning for whatever reason |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:History_of_India] |
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Jill Stein (article covered by DS): |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&diff=906697753&oldid=906692322] 17 July |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&diff=906701077&oldid=906700796] 17 July |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&diff=907266225&oldid=907265103] 21 July |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&diff=907267111&oldid=907266478] 21 July |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&diff=907269335&oldid=907268278] 21 July |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&diff=909387357&oldid=908461366] 5 August |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&diff=909388527&oldid=909387861] 5 August |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&type=revision&diff=909429289&oldid=909389553] 5 August |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&diff=909433995&oldid=909431492] 5 August - 3RR violation |
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'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Garudam&diff=prev&oldid=1268196006] |
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Tulsi Gabbard (article covered by DS, 1RR and enforced BRD): |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbard&type=revision&diff=884397402&oldid=884396104] 21 February |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbard&type=revision&diff=884397982&oldid=884397470] 21 February (1RR violation - self-reverted[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbard&diff=884399839&oldid=884398385] after warning[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tulsi_Gabbard/Archive_1#The_'political_positions'_in_the_lede_should_be_expanded]) |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbard&diff=884406110&oldid=884405580] 21 February (a different issue) |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbard&type=revision&diff=884425705&oldid=884421632#Foreign_policy] 21 February (second 1RR violation of the day - made after the warning for the first 1RR violation - a second warning was made on the talk page, but no self-revert) |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' Jill Stein warnings: [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SashiRolls&diff=906701364&oldid=902066706] (17 July warning), [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SashiRolls&diff=prev&oldid=909434459] (5 august warning - SR responded, saying he refuses to self-revert[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SashiRolls&diff=next&oldid=909434459]). Tulsi Gabbard warnings: Made on the talk page with pings[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tulsi_Gabbard/Archive_1#The_'political_positions'_in_the_lede_should_be_expanded]. |
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Dont even know where to start with this one. I tried many avenues to solve this with him even after he started edit warring, and his newest replies completely ignored the fact that he has done that. There was a clear consesnsus that the content removal was justified on the talk page. At the time of the edit warring, it was 3-1 with most agreeing that it should be deleted. He completely ignored that fact entirely. I warned him about edit warring, and his response was to remove the warning template on his talk page. The content itself has a ton of issues which we went over in the talk page(completely different dynasty, contradiction by a more authoritative source, not using the term “indianized”)Its clear that my efforts to reach out to him have failed and the content still remains on the article. And non of his new responses have even refuted or mentioned the points made. Requesting administrative action. ([[User:Someguywhosbored|Someguywhosbored]] ([[User talk:Someguywhosbored|talk]]) 15:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC)) |
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*'''Comment''': This is a poor report filed by Someguywhosbored. They’re clearly doing their best to hide their obvious flaws. The page in question, [[History of India]], was actually protected indefinitely for 3 days at my request [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase&diff=prev&oldid=1267170376] because someguywhosbored was constantly disrupting and destabilizing the article by removing authoritative sources [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1266886561][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1266887642][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1266889076][https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1266888659], despite the ongoing discussion on the talk page. Also note that they were previously warned by Drmies for the same reason [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Khalji_dynasty/Archive_2#c-Drmies-20230510150200-Someguywhosbored-20230510030200]. Another user has recently restored the stable version of the article [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1268179680]. Not to mention the user they are claiming to gain consensus with i.e. Noorullah21 was also warned by an admin [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Noorullah21#c-Ivanvector-20250108144800-January_2025]. |
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:PS: Their [[WP:BATTLEGROUND]] mentality is clearly visible through their essay like replies below, I'd rather refrain from replying back to them. '''<span style="font-family: Times New Roman;">[[User:Garudam|<span style="color: black;">'''Garuda'''</span>]]</span> '''<sup>[[User talk:Garudam|<span style="color: gray;">'''''Talk!'''''</span>]]</sup> 16:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*:Nice, you didn’t even mention the fact your edit warring here. |
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*:“ The page in question, History of India, was actually protected indefinitely for 3 days at my request [31] because someguywhosbored was constantly disrupting and destabilizing the article by removing authoritative sources [32][33][34][35], despite the ongoing discussion on the talk page” |
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*:wow. All of these points are completely disingenuous. Firstly, if you read the talk page, Flemmish and noorullah both agreed with my edits. Even you eventually agreed that the content should at least be reworded because the sources don’t even follow what’s written on the article. You requested page protection, wrongfully accusing me of edit warring and disruption. And to be clear, it took several replies for you to even acknowledge the points that were made. Even now you’re completely ignoring the points I’ve made in the talk page. All you’ve stated recently is that you’re restoring a stable version. That doesn’t answer any of my concerns at all. The discussion began on my talk page. You ignored and didn’t even respond to any of the points made. There was no discussion on the history of India talk page until I brought it there(because you were ignoring me). And you kept dismissing the points until Flemmish called you out[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:History_of_India&diff=prev&oldid=1267564104]. So don’t act like you seriously tried to discuss this with me. You only bothered talking once you realized that simply reverting the page and wrongfully requesting page protection wouldn’t get your way. And even now you ignored the completely valid reasons for the contents removal. |
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*:“Also note that they were previously warned by Drmies for the same reason” |
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*:Again, disingenuous. He’s bringing up a random conversation over a year ago that began over a simple miscommunication error. Drmies stated himself |
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*:“ That's better, thanks. I am not a content expert: I did not revert you because I disagreed with the content. As for the talk page--if you had mentioned that in your edit summary” |
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*:The entire issue was that he didn’t see what I wrote on the talk page because my edit showed up as “no edit summary” even though I could have sworn I left one. Regardless, you’re making this out to be some kind of big problem when in the end, Drmies stated himself that he didn’t disagree with me removing the content. Again, if there was an edit summary, he wouldn’t have reverted. It was just a miscommunication error like I said. And this happened over a year ago when I first started editing. So why are you making that out to be a bigger deal than it is? |
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*:[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Khalji_dynasty&diff=prev&oldid=1154163968] |
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*:Regardless, even if you think you’re justified for edit warring, you shouldn’t be edit warring. That’s why I’ve avoided reverting you for a 4th time, so I won’t break 3RR. |
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*:It’s clear you’re not going to stop making the same changes even if someone reverts you. You haven’t even acknowledged what you’re doing as breaking policy. [[User:Someguywhosbored|Someguywhosbored]] ([[User talk:Someguywhosbored|talk]]) 16:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*::Also, I’m pretty sure noorullah only reverted once so I have no idea why they received a warning. Regardless, that’s not the main issue here. [[User:Someguywhosbored|Someguywhosbored]] ([[User talk:Someguywhosbored|talk]]) 16:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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{{AN3|d}} Garudam, who [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Garudam&diff=prev&oldid=1260494940 is aware of CTOPS] as the article indisputably comes under ARBIPA, has [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Garudam&diff=prev&oldid=1268187655 said he is "considering taking a break"] and seems from his most recent editing history to have actually done so. This is a good idea IMO, as long as he keeps to his word on this. If he comes back early and just resumes the same behavior, at least a partial block from the page would be in order. [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 23:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AJill_Stein&type=revision&diff=907270505&oldid=880555783][https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jill_Stein&diff=907271214&oldid=907270505][https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Jill_Stein&diff=909389812&oldid=909389398][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tulsi_Gabbard/Archive_1#The_'political_positions'_in_the_lede_should_be_expanded] |
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:That sounds good to me. I’m guessing he will get reverted anyway. If he reverts again, I’ll mention it here. [[User:Someguywhosbored|Someguywhosbored]] ([[User talk:Someguywhosbored|talk]]) 23:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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== [[User:37.72.154.146]] reported by [[User:Flat Out]] (Result: Blocked 24h) == |
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* SashiRolls has a history on the Jill Stein page: The editor was "topic banned from Jill Stein and related pages for six months" in September 2016[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement/Archive198#SashiRolls]. In the case filed by [[User:Tryptofish|Tryptofish]], SashiRolls engaged in edit-warring and ignored multiple warnings about violations of edit-warring policy, ultimately leading to a 6-month block. Other relevant sanctions include a 1-week ban in June 2019 for personal attacks and battleground behavior[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SashiRolls&diff=900335422&oldid=900291736] and an indefinite ban which was lifted in November 2018 with the disclaimer, "there is considerable skepticism of unblocking, even among some of the supporters, so SashiRolls should expect a lot of critical eyes looking at their post-unblock behavior."[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Archive303#Unblock_appeal_by_SashiRolls] [[User:Snooganssnoogans|Snooganssnoogans]] ([[User talk:Snooganssnoogans|talk]]) 13:13, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Westville Boys' High School}} |
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* SS has a long history of uncivil, bullying behaviour all throughout AP2. They are well-known for copyright violation on Jill Stein and for misrepresenting sources (cf. 3 recent examples given below). Between the first bold edit and the second edit on 5 Aug I went to recover the reference SS had deleted in their haste on 23 July ([https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Jill_Stein&type=revision&diff=907452825&oldid=907285547 leaving a sentence unreferenced]). In the six minutes it took me to validate one edit and go dig up the ref in another section, SS had already disrupted my work by reverting. (NB: they were in such a hurry they left "nowiki" tags in the entry). This is their standard strategy, disrupt ASAP to control the text of entries they seem to think they "own", because they have fought off any other editor. In summary, the first two edits on 5 Aug are in fact a single bold edit (conflicted due to the disruptive strategy). Snooogans has not discussed on the Talk Page with regard to removing the three unnecessary wikitext references to the ''Daily Beast'' nor concerning the misleading use of a clickbait headline to source BLP material rather than the more careful text in the actual article cited. (The language they use is not supported at all in the article, only in the muckraking headline, whereas the verb I used is used twice in the article.) This is pretty clear cut, I am at 2RR, maximum 3RR (if one accepts their disruptive edit 6 minutes after I started editing the page, while I was digging up their lost reference for them). They, on the other hand, are at 3RR, without any doubt. They are also without any doubt in violation of [[WP:CIV]] on multiple occasions starting with this [[Talk:Tulsi_Gabbard#Whitewashing_ABC_News_content | section]]. I apologize to administrators that SS prefers to waste your time rather than discuss the issues on the talk page and follow BRD. (Funny how they have time to try to get me blocked, but not to check they haven't deleted references by mistake, misread an article (as [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Tulsi_Gabbard&type=revision&diff=907453070&oldid=907274741 here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?ti%20...%20politician)&diff=prev&oldid=905987444 here], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=John_Solomon_%28political_commentator%29&type=revision&diff=908022310&oldid=908022182 here] or on the present page), or left nowiki tags in their text in their haste to disrupt...) 🌿 [[User:SashiRolls | SashiRolls]] <sup>[[User_talk:SashiRolls | t]] · [[Special:Contributions/SashiRolls|c]]</sup> 16:42, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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* Further data: SS has made 4005 reverts on en.wp ([http://en.wikiscan.org/?menu=userstats&user=Snooganssnoogans 17% of their contributions]). I have made 220 ([http://en.wikiscan.org/?menu=userstats&user=SashiRolls 2% of my contributions]). 🌿 [[User:SashiRolls | SashiRolls]] <sup>[[User_talk:SashiRolls | t]] · [[Special:Contributions/SashiRolls|c]]</sup> 17:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:*Your logic of reverts is backwards and wrong. Hypothetically speaking it could be 2 percents of your edit reversions is from edit wars and theirs is from fighting vandalism...just one way it is a false equation. You also don't have to get to 3 reverts for it to be an edit war, past behavior and blocks can be taken into account. I don't say that is needed here just pointing out two very bad points of logic. [[User:Hell in a Bucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:Hell in a Bucket|talk]]) 17:46, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::* Hmm... 62 appearances at noticeboards from the looks of it. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?sort=relevance&search=Snooganssnoogans&prefix=Wikipedia%3AAdministrators%27+noticeboard&title=Special%3ASearch&profile=advanced&fulltext=1&advancedSearch-current=%7B%7D&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns3=1] is that smoke? Think there's a fire? I would recommend paying specific attention to the misrepresentation diffs given and the copyvio of the ''Daily Beast'' the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Jill_Stein/Archive_4#Plagiarism very same day it was published] (Yashar Ali). In the specific case here, each time I provided different text, trying to respond to their complaints left in edit summaries. Each time they reverted to exactly the same demonstrably mis-formatted text still sourced to a headline (but which has been entirely unsourced for two weeks prior to my intervention). Also, you should be aware of the [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/authorship/en.wikipedia.org/Jill%20Stein authorship] on the page. Also, check out the [https://xtools.wmflabs.org/topedits/en.wikipedia.org/Snooganssnoogans/0/Jill_Stein revert patterns of the reporter/prosecutor here] (navigate at that link by searching for "undid revision"). I actually know what I'm talking about concerning Snoog. His methods are known. 🌿 [[User:SashiRolls | SashiRolls]] <sup>[[User_talk:SashiRolls | t]] · [[Special:Contributions/SashiRolls|c]]</sup> 18:05, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:::*The author of the page is irrelevant. I think you are defensive and my comment wasn't to put you on the defensive just that those aren't nec a good justification for the reverts. My suggestion is focus not on the contributor but the merit of your edits, the spots will show themselves in due time once that happens. [[User:Hell in a Bucket|Hell in a Bucket]] ([[User talk:Hell in a Bucket|talk]]) 18:21, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|37.72.154.146}} |
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::::* I got your [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SashiRolls&diff=next&oldid=909440834 message on my TP], thanks for letting me know your comments above weren't aimed at me. (I'll admit I'd misuderstood them as being directed at me. ^^) Rather than feeling ''that'' defensive, I'm actually feeling more like pointing out the obvious: in the "revert patterns or the reporter/prosecutor" diff provided above, please look through the 30 tokens of (reverted) and the 48 tokens of (Undid revision). Count the editors, and notice the names. That tells you a lot about SS's collaborative habits. Here, the question is: did I revert any new text that Snoogans added to the article at any time today... other than the <nowiki>''Daily Beast''<nowiki>, the answer is no. SS on the other hand reverted each new formulation I presented (responding explicitly to their concerns). They stopped at 3RR to bring it here, then disappeared, once they were sure I would be busy defending myself. As you say you do not have to violate 3RR to get sanctioned. The admins could certainly give SS a lifetime achievement award... |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' |
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*Ive been on the receiving end of one of Snoogans long term revert wars before and it gets so old. I don’t see any attempt by Snoogans to gain consensus on the talk pages. Why are reverts from February even being discussed here? This is a bad faith attempt to get Sashi sanctioned. It is incredible to see how Snoog can continue to behave like this. There are many, many examples of Snoog edit warring but never exceeding 3RR to get their preferred version to stick. [[User:Mr Ernie|Mr Ernie]] ([[User talk:Mr Ernie|talk]]) 19:53, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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== [[User:Hari-kiri Te Kanawa]] reported by [[User:Cassianto]] (Result: No violation, protected) == |
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# {{diff|oldid=1268186285|diff=1268208200|label=Consecutive edits made from 14:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC) to 17:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} |
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## {{diff2|1268186883|14:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Awards System */" |
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## {{diff2|1268202556|16:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Awards System */" |
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## {{diff2|1268202677|16:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Awards System */" |
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## {{diff2|1268203165|16:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Awards System */" |
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## {{diff2|1268204621|16:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Awards System */" |
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## {{diff2|1268204745|16:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Awards System */" |
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## {{diff2|1268204943|16:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Awards System */" |
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## {{diff2|1268205104|16:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Awards System */" |
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## {{diff2|1268208200|17:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Modern times */" |
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'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Moors murders}} <br /> |
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# {{diff2|1268160425|11:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Caution: Addition of unsourced or improperly cited material on [[:Westville Boys' High School]]." |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Hari-kiri Te Kanawa}} |
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# {{diff2|1268160707|11:34, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Notice: Conflict of interest on [[:Westville Boys' High School]]." |
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moors_murders&diff=909503501&oldid=909419523] |
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# {{diff2|1268160586|11:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* COI tag (January 2025) */ new section" |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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{{AN3|b|24 hours}} [[User:Daniel Case|Daniel Case]] ([[User talk:Daniel Case|talk]]) 23:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC) |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moors_murders&diff=next&oldid=909503501] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moors_murders&diff=next&oldid=909512240] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moors_murders&diff=next&oldid=909513091] |
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== [[User:Hemiauchenia]] by [[User:NotQualified]] (Result: No violation) == |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [link] |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom}}<br /> |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hari-kiri_Te_Kanawa&oldid=909513310] |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Hemiauchenia}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Child_sexual_abuse_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=1268284523&oldid=1268159666] |
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{{an3|nv}}. You need ''four'', not three, reverts in order to violate [[WP:3RR|3RR]]. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 22:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:Fascinating. I wonder how much more you actually know than you're making out. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span>]]</sup></span>''' 22:41, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::What on earth are you talking about? [[User:El_C|El_C]] 22:48, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:::I think you know. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span>]]</sup></span>''' 22:50, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::::If I did, I wouldn't bother asking. Please ''try'' to [[WP:AGF|assume good faith]]. You listed three reverts, you need ''four'' to violate [[WP:3RR|3RR]] — what is unclear about that? [[User:El_C|El_C]] 22:57, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::You asking proves nothing. I have AGF but it's been shot to bits by your administrative incompetence. Any fool can see that this was a sock on a mission to war their version into place. [[WP:DUCK|If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, then guess what...]] '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span>]]</sup></span>''' 23:04, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::Then, file an [[WP:SPI|SPI]], if you must. I'm not willing to make the determination that the new account is EEng. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 23:08, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::::What, to then have you appear into view like Superman with a chip on his shoulder? No thanks. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span>]]</sup></span>''' 23:14, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::As I've said elsewhere, this interaction is over. Good evening. '''<span style="text-shadow:7px 7px 8px Black;">[[User:Cassianto|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Cassianto</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Cassianto#top|<span style="font-family: Papyrus;">Talk</span>]]</sup></span>''' 23:15, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::::::::Are you serious? If you think I want to to even ''remotely'' involve myself in that SPI you are sadly mistaken. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 23:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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== [[User:Happypaper]] reported by [[User:Adam9007]] (Result: Blocked) == |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Child_sexual_abuse_in_the_United_Kingdom&diff=prev&oldid=1268284523] |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hemiauchenia&diff=prev&oldid=1268286035] |
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;Page: {{pagelinks|Mishawaka High School}} |
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;User being reported: {{userlinks|Happypaper}} |
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'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Edit_warring#User:Hemiauchenia_by_User:NotQualified_(Result:_No_violation)] |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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;Diffs of the user's reverts: |
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# {{diff2|909518690|23:15, 5 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909518317 by [[Special:Contributions/John from Idegon|John from Idegon]] ([[User talk:John from Idegon|talk]]) Read the description of the video it gives full acess to the wikipedia article by Happypaper" |
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# {{diff2|909517250|23:02, 5 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909516926 by [[Special:Contributions/Adam9007|Adam9007]] ([[User talk:Adam9007|talk]]) The links are needed for the Fight song as it is its own fight song that was written for the school and not a copy of a college song as it is unique. False Copyright infringement as it is my recording of the fight song and im giving this fair use also the revision undid corrections to the Principal and Superintendent! If you'd like click the fight song link and in the description of the video it" |
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# {{diff2|909516042|22:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909514559 by [[Special:Contributions/John from Idegon|John from Idegon]] ([[User talk:John from Idegon|talk]]) False Copyright infringement as it is my recording of the fight song and im giving this fair use also the revision undid corrections to the Principal and Superintendent! If you'd like click the fight song link and in the description of the video it gives fair use as i made the video!!" |
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I edited [[Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom]] and added templates for weasel words and unbalanced following [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#How to avoid an edit war]]. To my surprise, as I tried to submit my edit to address issues with the text, the user in question had already reverted my tags without discussion and just childishly wrote "No." as their justification for their revert, and then astonishingly raised the article protection. I then went to said user's talk page to try and discuss my numerous concerns, adding in-line templates for every line to truly help them see what I saw wrong with it as obviously I would assume good faith and just that their must have been some confusion, and even more astonishingly in under a minute they silently deleted that talk page discussion. |
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;Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning: |
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# {{diff2|909518398|23:12, 5 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Warning: Edit warring on [[:Mishawaka High School]]. ([[WP:TW|TW]])" |
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:AVOIDEDITWAR&redirect=no WP:AVOIDEDITWAR] This is beyond any possibility of good faith. I am saying this is now an irrefutable major abuse of power. |
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;Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: |
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There are obvious weasel words and I am very much calling into question the balancing of the writing used and the user can't just revert and raise protection level. Proper procedure is to discuss via talk page. [[User:NotQualified|NotQualified]] ([[User talk:NotQualified|talk]]) 01:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:'''They have been warned before''' about editing Child Sex Abuse in the UK in bad faith |
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;<u>Comments:</u> |
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:[[User talk:Hemiauchenia#January 2025]] |
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User keeps reverting and is seemingly ignoring concerns about his edits. <s>User has strictly speaking violated 3RR here</s>. [[User:Adam9007|Adam9007]] ([[User talk:Adam9007|talk]]) 23:21, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:""" |
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*Editor is clearly new, but just as clearly not listening. I've reverted again, but now I'm at 3rr. [[User:John from Idegon|John from Idegon]] ([[User talk:John from Idegon|talk]]) 23:31, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:[[File:Nuvola_apps_important.svg|alt=Warning icon|25x25px]] Please stop. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at [[Huddersfield sex abuse ring]], you may be [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]. <!-- Template:uw-delete3 --> [[User:FoxtAl|FoxtAl]] ([[User talk:FoxtAl|talk]]) 14:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC) |
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**And he's just made [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mishawaka_High_School&curid=17727956&diff=909520849&oldid=909520024 another reversion]. [[User:Adam9007|Adam9007]] ([[User talk:Adam9007|talk]]) 23:38, 5 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:: Stop warning people when you're edit warring against multiple other editors. [[User:ScottishFinnishRadish|ScottishFinnishRadish]] ([[User talk:ScottishFinnishRadish|talk]]) 15:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:: They're up to it again [[User:NotQualified|NotQualified]] ([[User talk:NotQualified|talk]]) 01:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:""" [[User:NotQualified|NotQualified]] ([[User talk:NotQualified|talk]]) 01:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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: NotQualified's almost entire contribution history has been to overtly push a right-wing agenda on Wikipedia regarding British politics. I think that they are a net negative to the encyclopedia and should be blocked per [[WP:NOTHERE]]. There has been consistent consensus against NQ's position, see for example [[Talk:Grooming_gang_moral_panic_in_the_United_Kingdom/Archive_1#Requested_move_3_September_2024]] (this article was merged in to the " Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom" article), which shows the consensus regarding the issue is completely opposite to NQs position, and shows that the tags are unjustified. I am completely entitled to revert any post on my talkpage (which is what NQ means when he says I "tried to delete me reporting them", and I have also only reverted once today on the "Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom" article and so am not in violation of the 3RR. I assume NQ has interpreted having an edit conflict as me having the powers to raise protection levels, which as a non-admin I have absolutely no powers to do. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 01:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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== [[User:2600:1011:B00B:48C9:38D9:726C:BB19:37A]] reported by [[User:Tom94022]] (Result: Semi-protected) == |
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::"NotQualified's almost entire contribution history has been to overtly push a right-wing agenda on Wikipedia regarding British politics." |
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::Incorrect, for example I was the one who almost exclusively wrote about the James McMurdock of [[Reform UK]] abuse scandal, amongst other things. [[James McMurdock#Assault conviction]] |
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::Immediately accusing me of bad faith is deflection. |
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::"I think that they are a net negative to the encyclopedia and should be blocked per [[WP:NOTHERE]]." |
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::Genuinely shocking that you're suggesting my blocking, I didn't even go that far with you despite everything and all you're upset with is my supposed unfair edit history. |
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::"There has been consistent consensus against NQ's position, see for example [[Talk:Grooming_gang_moral_panic_in_the_United_Kingdom/Archive_1#Requested_move_3_September_2024]]" |
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::Weasel words aren't mentioned even once in this discussion. Some discussion is about balance but you couldn't even know my gripe if you just delete my discussion with you. |
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::"I "tried to delete me reporting them"" |
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::I edited this out of my report because I didn't think it was explained clearly but as you commented on it, I meant reporting you to you. I can understand the confusion. |
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::"I have also only reverted once today on the "Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom" article" |
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::3RR is not the only edit warring rule and honestly this is redundant if you just raise protection levels to block any more edits to begin with [[User:NotQualified|NotQualified]] ([[User talk:NotQualified|talk]]) 02:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*{{AN3|nv}}. This report is a mess. [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*:What is wrong with the report? That I didn't perfectly follow the template? That doesn't mean a violation didn't take place. I can re-format my report, one moment [[User:NotQualified|NotQualified]] ([[User talk:NotQualified|talk]]) 02:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*::{{re|NotQualified}} Do not "re-format" this report. If you insist on filing a report that is readable, file a new one, but there would still be no violation. Also, do not copy in other users' comments into reports. It's very confusing and hard to follow. You can include them by saying "so-and-so did this" and use a diff to show what the user did. The way you did it made it look like those users had commented on your report. That was the messiest part of the report.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 02:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*:::I'm still learning how to format on Wikipedia, so sorry. I re-formatted before you posted. Why would there be "... still be no violation"? I understand that I shouldn't directly post user comments and should follow template next time, but I am confused at how their conduct is acceptable. 3RR is not the only rule and is largely redundant when I'm accusing the user of raising protection levels after a single revert and then refusing to discuss it when brought up on their talk page. [[User:NotQualified|NotQualified]] ([[User talk:NotQualified|talk]]) 02:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*::::I will try to put my report as brief as possible, so there is no confusion. |
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*::::# I add templates to an article with faults |
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*::::# The user immediately reverts without explanation and raises the protection level |
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*::::# I, assuming good faith, go to them in accordance with protocol and show my problems line by line |
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*::::# They immediately revert that, justifying it in the revert log by saying I have a "right wing agenda" (I do not) amongst other nonsense. This is even more concerning when most of my so-called "right wing [propaganda]" recent edits are rape gang scandal related. |
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*::::# I see that they've actually been reported for the exact same thing a week ago, wiping articles of child sex abuse in the UK. This is a pattern of behaviour of bad faith. |
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*::::# Knowing now I'm dealing with a troll with privileges, I go here and try to explain my case |
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*::::# I notify the user |
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*::::# I am not familiar with all the protocols of Wikipedia so my report is messy |
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*::::# Their defense is lies, I go line by line saying why. The only crux of their argument is that they technically didn't violate 3RR because instead of reverting anything else they did something far worse and raised the protection level |
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*::::# You tell me my report is messy and there's no problem |
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*::::I hope I summarised that in a way that makes more sense but I fully acknowledge you know more than me and could correct a mistake in my analysis [[User:NotQualified|NotQualified]] ([[User talk:NotQualified|talk]]) 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*:::::They edited the above answer "I assume NQ has interpreted having an edit conflict as me having the powers to raise protection levels, which as a non-admin I have absolutely no powers to do." |
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*:::::That seems to be the case, so I apologise for the confusion caused. I still argue however they are in repeat violation of rules around UK rape incidents and I personally think that due to it being a pattern of behaviour there should be at least a warning given, if not a total suspension from editing on rape or abuse in the UK. I do not believe reverting a template is enough for a warning, even given that's generally bad conduct. but refusing to discuss afterwards and furthermore this being a repeat pattern of behaviour makes me question the impartiality and good faith of the editor. |
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*:::::I admit, my report could've been formatted better, and I apologise for saying they raised protection when they didn't, that must've been an edit conflict that confused me. They are not in violation of 3RR and as they haven't raised protection but they've acted poorly, repeatedly, and I've refuted their arguments above quite clearly around conduct. I am not calling for a general suspension. I am however at least calling for warning to be given, or better a ban on editing UK rape scandals. |
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*:::::I am going to re-add weasel words and balance to the section. [[User:NotQualified|NotQualified]] ([[User talk:NotQualified|talk]]) 02:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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== [[User:80.200.232.89]] reported by [[User:MrOllie]] (Result: Blocked one week) == |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Moore's law}} <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|2600:1011:B00B:48C9:38D9:726C:BB19:37A}} |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Biology and sexual orientation}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moore%27s_law&type=revision&diff=909074190&oldid=908833613] |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|80.200.232.89}} |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moore%27s_law&type=revision&diff=909611614&oldid=909608707] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moore%27s_law&type=revision&diff=909606158&oldid=909605641] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moore%27s_law&type=revision&diff=909475576&oldid=909281487] |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Moore%27s_law&type=revision&diff=909605229&oldid=909490334] |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3A2600%3A1011%3AB053%3A6658%3AC5D3%3A7EDF%3A36D5%3A8CF0&type=revision&diff=909635268&oldid=909635188] |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [diff] |
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# {{diff2|1268291574|02:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Genetic influence" |
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# {{diff2|1268272867|23:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Significant skill issues regarding the ability to read the edit summary and the study itself." |
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# {{diff2|1268269093|23:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268251743|1268251743]] by [[Special:Contributions/MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]])" |
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# {{diff2|1268248948|21:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Rv straight up lying. The source itself asserts a 22% variance in shared environment, 43% in nonshared environment. Stop vandalizing the pages I edit." |
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'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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# {{diff2|1268273398|23:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule." |
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Multiple editors have asked this IP to remove puffery from lede and start by adding non-puff RSed material to body. [[User:Tom94022|Tom94022]] ([[User talk:Tom94022|talk]]) 17:01, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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*Semi-protected article one week.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 17:49, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' |
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== [[User:Kbb2]] reported by [[User:Womtelo]] (Result: ) == |
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# {{diff2|1268273324|23:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC)}} "/* Vandalizing */" |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Near-open front unrounded vowel}} <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Kbb2}} |
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:'''Comment:''' I tried had a discussion with the IP editor on their talk page about misunderstandings on the definition on 'environment' which they seemed to come around on. But then they started adding in [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Genome-wide_association_study&diff=prev&oldid=1268215087 race science in other articles] and edit warring there [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Genome-wide_association_study&action=history too]. Blatant troll [[WP:NOTHERE]]. [[User:Zenomonoz|Zenomonoz]] ([[User talk:Zenomonoz|talk]]) 02:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel&diff=909472198&oldid=908457962&diffmode=source] |
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:It wasn't an edit war you idiot, I only reverted the article there once. |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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:And I will revert edits done by MrOllie if they don't even provide a reason or a rebuttal for why what I did was wrong. You did, so I stopped. [[Special:Contributions/80.200.232.89|80.200.232.89]] ([[User talk:80.200.232.89|talk]]) 02:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel&diff=909576516&oldid=909472198&diffmode=source First massive removal of content, with no justification or discussion on Talk page] |
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:Also, how is talking about the genetic influence of homosexuality through the GWAS method controversial at all? I can accept that I was wrong regarding the environment dispute, but this is just ain't it. [[Special:Contributions/80.200.232.89|80.200.232.89]] ([[User talk:80.200.232.89|talk]]) 02:52, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel&diff=909582515&oldid=909581872&diffmode=source First revert] |
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::There is both unanswered discussion on the article talk page, as well as relevant discussion you had with Zenomonoz on your user talk. In any case, the onus is on you to secure agreement from other editors. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 03:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel&diff=909583745&oldid=909583671&diffmode=source Second revert] |
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:::In addition to the 4 reverts listed above, you're also up to 3 reverts at [[Genome-wide association study]], not one as you claim. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel&diff=909584309&oldid=909584175&diffmode=source Third revert] |
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::::You're just being purposefully antagonistic lol. We solved the issue already, that's why you didn't revert it again. Then zenomonoz strolls in and reverts because he thought the issue persisted, now he's just grasping straws and finding excuses like requiring a secondary source when half the God damn encyclopedia uses nothing but primary sources. [[Special:Contributions/80.200.232.89|80.200.232.89]] ([[User talk:80.200.232.89|talk]]) 04:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::::To be clear the issue was the race and intelligence example I used. [[Special:Contributions/80.200.232.89|80.200.232.89]] ([[User talk:80.200.232.89|talk]]) 04:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::::::The issue is absolutely not 'solved'. That I was not willing to edit war in this instance does not mean that I agree with you. [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 04:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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::Because Wikipedia is based upon secondary sources, like reviews, and not primary source studies that are often misinterpreted by readers (and editors) such as yourself. [[User:Zenomonoz|Zenomonoz]] ([[User talk:Zenomonoz|talk]]) 03:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:::It's funny because 3 out of 7 (primary) sources used in the GWAS article can also be found in the article '[[heritability of IQ]]' alone, just to illustrate my point to you about how you're grasping at straws [[Special:Contributions/80.200.232.89|80.200.232.89]] ([[User talk:80.200.232.89|talk]]) 04:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*{{AN3|b|one week}}. [[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 13:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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== [[User:104.173.25.23]] reported by [[User:Flat Out]] (Result: blocked 48 hours) == |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [link] |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|The Time (band)}} |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel&diff=909587930&oldid=860547950&diffmode=source] |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|104.173.25.23}} |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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Deleting massive amounts of content without proper justification or discussion on the Talk page is irrespectful of all the work that's been put into previous editions by various WP editors. Such decisions should not be made by a single editor on a whim. -- [[User:Womtelo|Womtelo]] ([[User talk:Womtelo|talk]]) 19:18, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' |
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* Neither of the involved editors show exemplary behavior here and I'm very disappointed in both of them. Both kept reverting and arguing in summaries while telling each other to "take it to the talk". While I sympathize with both Womtelo's concern about bias and Kbb2's concern about creep and sourcing, I reckon the two need to be strongly warned against editing the article (and possibly others with similar topics) before it is sorted out. [[User:Nardog|Nardog]] ([[User talk:Nardog|talk]]) 19:40, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::hello Nardog, thanks for your point of view. If I may add a note, I'd say that the situation is not symmetrical here. I personally have no agenda with that page, and was doing nothing else than reverting to a consensus version of the page, making zero other change; in that sense, I can't see why it would have been my role to take to the Talk page when I had no specific request to make. By contrast, I believe the burden of opening a discussion really befalls on the editor who actually intends to make a change, especially if that change involves deleting massive amounts of content. Shouldn't ''they'' look for consensus in the first place? In the end I'm the one who [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Near-open_front_unrounded_vowel&diff=909587930&oldid=860547950&diffmode=source opened the discussion], but I don't believe this is how Talk pages are supposed to work on WP. Thanks, -- [[User:Womtelo|Womtelo]] ([[User talk:Womtelo|talk]]) 21:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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== [[User:TeeVeeed]] reported by [[User:General Ization]] (Result: Warned) == |
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# {{diff2|1268310745|04:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268310547|1268310547]] by [[Special:Contributions/C.Fred|C.Fred]] ([[User talk:C.Fred|talk]]) Already took it to talk" |
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# {{diff2|1268310470|04:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268310269|1268310269]] by [[Special:Contributions/PEPSI697|PEPSI697]] ([[User talk:PEPSI697|talk]])" |
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# {{diff2|1268310062|04:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268309093|1268309093]] by [[Special:Contributions/Tenebre.Rosso.Sangue995320|Tenebre.Rosso.Sangue995320]] ([[User talk:Tenebre.Rosso.Sangue995320|talk]])" |
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# {{diff2|1268308804|04:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268308251|1268308251]] by [[Special:Contributions/Galaxybeing|Galaxybeing]] ([[User talk:Galaxybeing|talk]]) Please stop the edit war. These reverts are vandalism." |
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# {{diff2|1268308036|04:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268080514|1268080514]] by [[Special:Contributions/Flat Out|Flat Out]] ([[User talk:Flat Out|talk]]) Deleted content is irrelevant and was inappropriately added" |
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'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' |
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;Page: {{pagelinks|2019 El Paso shooting}} |
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;User being reported: {{userlinks|TeeVeeed}} |
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[warning https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:104.173.25.23&diff=prev&oldid=1268312759] |
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;Previous version reverted to: |
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' |
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;Diffs of the user's reverts: |
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# {{diff2|909668793|21:02, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Manifesto: req. rm of double-metion and ref. sorry" (which did not revert the editor's edit but removed the content moved to another part of the article by me) |
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# {{diff2|909665327|20:38, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Manifesto */ I thought we agreed about this content? If not my bad and back to TP" |
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# {{diff2|909651739|19:01, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909651409 by [[Special:Contributions/General Ization|General Ization]] ([[User talk:General Ization|talk]]) okay well you said to look down and I did and I don't see where this was discussed here? TP?" |
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# {{diff2|909651161|18:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909651001 by [[Special:Contributions/General Ization|General Ization]] ([[User talk:General Ization|talk]]) let's discuss on the talk page please" |
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# {{diff2|909650726|18:54, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "in lede" |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> |
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;Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning: |
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# {{diff2|909665762|20:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on [[:2019 El Paso shooting]]. ([[WP:TW|TW]])" |
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# {{diff2|909666446|20:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* August 2019 */" |
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# {{diff2|909666511|20:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* August 2019 */" |
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Ongoing edit warring after warning on users talk page [[User:Flat Out|Flat Out]] ([[User talk:Flat Out|talk]]) 04:31, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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;Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: |
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* {{AN3|b|48 hours}} —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 04:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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# {{diff2|909651645|19:00, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan calaim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909652300|19:04, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909652534|19:06, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909652571|19:07, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909652609|19:07, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909653302|19:12, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909653338|19:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909653437|19:13, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909663330|20:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909665547|20:40, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909665696|20:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909665944|20:42, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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# {{diff2|909666791|20:48, 6 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* 8chan claim regarding "first" posting of manifesto */" |
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== [[User:Shecose]] reported by [[User:CNMall41]] (Result: Page move-protected) == |
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;<u>Comments:</u> |
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::I'm going to pleasd not guilty here. I made a mistake thinking that what the edit-warring complainer said was in the edit summaries and said so. Also the complaining editor had numerous "reasons" besides my mistake of duplicating content for not liking 8chan and not wanting to highlight that 8chan's owner said that they did not post anything from the killer.--So I was not sure what the complaner's problem was with my edit. Is this resolved now? OP demanded that I rv and I did.[[User:TeeVeeed|TeeVeeed]] ([[User |
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talk:TeeVeeed|talk]]) 21:16, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Toxic: A Fairy Tale for Grown-Ups}} |
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:Also a quote from the complainer here <b>"I don't think any of us are particularly concerned about appearing to be critical of 8chan at this point, and I'm not sure the CEO's claim is especially credible (or even important)." </b>I have a problem with this kind of thing sneaking into the project[[User:TeeVeeed|TeeVeeed]] ([[User talk:TeeVeeed|talk]]) 21:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::Firstly, that has absolutely nothing to do with this report concerning your edit warring (since there was never any effort to remove the information from the body of the article, only the duplication you introduced in the article lede), and secondly, please '''stop''' referring to me as the "complainer." "Reporter" or General ''Ization'' will do just fine. <span style="font-family: Gill Sans MT, Arial, Helvetica; font-weight:140;">[[User:General Ization|<span style="color: #006633;">General <i>Ization</i></span>]]</span> <sup>[[User talk:General Ization|<i style="color: #000666;">Talk </i>]] </sup> 21:24, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Shecose}} |
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{{an3|w}}. You violated [[WP:3RR|3RR]], which your comments above do not address. Please don't do that again. I understand the article brings up a lot of emotions, but you still need to edit by the rules. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 21:31, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::I did not intentionally violate 3rr. (1) It was demanded on my Talk Page to immediately undo one of my edits. (2) It was unclear to me what was meant by "duplicated content" and we had agreed on the article Talk Page to take the disputed content out of the <b>lede</b>. so ONE of my alleged 3rrs was a mistake I guess, since I thought that we had both made an error and taken the content completely OUT of the (other) section. It was NOT even a revert--I thought I was fixing a deletion of content that had not been discussed.[[User:TeeVeeed|TeeVeeed]] ([[User talk:TeeVeeed|talk]]) |
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:::Intention aside, 3RR was violated. Which is a problem. Please just try to be more careful in the future. When in doubt, stop editing the article and discuss on a talk page. Thank you. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 21:55, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' |
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== [[User:Volunteer Marek]] reported by [[User:Icewhiz]] (Result: Warned, RfAR note) == |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Islamophobia in Poland}} <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Volunteer Marek}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' complex - new article - present each revert below in context. Almost all content in the article is new (from 3 August onward) |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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# {{diff2|1268346980|08:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268346390|1268346390]] by [[Special:Contributions/CNMall41|CNMall41]] ([[User talk:CNMall41|talk]]) Undiscussed move. The editor is acting out of personal hate instead of collaborating." |
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# '''revert1''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909659201&oldid=909587196 19:55, 6 August 2019] - large removal of content added 3-6 August. |
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# {{diff2|1268346280|08:43, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268345471|1268345471]] by [[Special:Contributions/CNMall41|CNMall41]] ([[User talk:CNMall41|talk]]) Undiscussed move. There are multiple people edited this article." |
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# '''revert2''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909659763&oldid=909659528 19:59, 6 August 2019] - using the false edit summary "put ref back in" - Volunteer Marek removes the intervening edit from [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909659528&oldid=909659359 19:58, 6 August 2019]. |
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# {{diff2|1268345229|08:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC)}} "Undid revision [[Special:Diff/1268344773|1268344773]] by [[Special:Contributions/CNMall41|CNMall41]] ([[User talk:CNMall41|talk]])" |
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# '''revert3''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909660465&oldid=909660131 20:05, 6 August 2019] (note intervening edit from 20:02) - re-instating spurious who tag (when group is referenced by three separate academic journal articles). Note previous insertion of who tag - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909421793&oldid=909421350 09:49, 5 August 2019] (which I attempted to resolve with [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909430381&oldid=909429963 this edit expanding on the group] + adding refs - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909569509&oldid=909569482]). See also [[Talk:Islamophobia in Poland#Tag removed]] where three journal articles have been provided. |
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# '''revert4''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909660791&oldid=909660760 20:07, 6 August 2019] (note intervening edit from 20:06) wholesale removal of several paragraphs of sourced information. |
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'''Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' |
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4 separate reverts in the span of 12 minutes. |
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I will also note that 5 August VM performed 3 separate reverts - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909417035&oldid=909311955 09:03, 5 August 2019], [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909417180&oldid=909417150 09:05, 5 August 2019]+[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909417218&oldid=909417180 09:06, 5 August 2019], and [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909419681&oldid=909418920 09:27, 5 August 2019]. |
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'''Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' Volunteer Marek has requested I stay off his talk page. Furthermore, he had issued a warning to me - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Icewhiz&diff=909493776&oldid=908866570 diff] - a false warning I will add, as I reverted precisely twice (one full, one partial - moving information from the lede to the body) since creating the article on 3 August. |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' See [[Talk:Islamophobia in Poland]] (newly created article) - where I've been calmly attempting to address Volunteer Marek's concerns with material sourced from mainstream media and academic journals and books. |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> Per [[WP:3RR]], a "revert" is {{tq|"any edit (or administrative action) that reverses the actions of other editors, in whole or in part, whether involving the same or '''different material'''"}}. Volunteer Marek has been repeatedly removing different sections of well-sourced on-topic content (sourced from academic journal articles discussing Islamophobia in Poland) to a newly created article. While I have been writing this article - going from a 2.6K stub (copied from material previously in a different article) to 17K (well - prior to Volunteer Marek's mass reverts tonight) in the past 3 days - Volunteer Marek has been challenging mainstream media (e.g. - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909660791&oldid=909660760] - the Washington Post and BBC) and on-topic academic sources (e.g. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909659201&oldid=909587196] - the [[Patterns of Prejudice]] journal - article title - ''The battlefield is in Brussels’: Islamophobia in the Visegrád Four in its global context.'' (one of the four being Poland, which is covered therein) - which is really [[WP:NOTTHERE]] behavior given the quality of sources used here. Volunteer Marek has added precisely zero material to the article (his positive byte diffs are adding tags or [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909659879&oldid=909659806 re-adding a reference he cut out elsewhere]. |
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Also note the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Shecose SPI case] [[User:CNMall41|CNMall41]] ([[User talk:CNMall41|talk]]) 08:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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I want to stress that I have been discussing, and that I performed precisely two reverts (both on 5 August, the second one combined with attempting to address Volunteer Marek's concerns (moving material from lead to body, addressing who tag)). I have not reverted on 6 August. I am trying to write an article - and this is quite difficult when each time I add well sourced on-topic material it gets reverted.[[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]] ([[User talk:Icewhiz|talk]]) 20:55, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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This article is about a highly anticipated film with a large base of interest. There are hundreds of references available following its teaser and poster release, and it has been confirmed that principal photography has begun. Despite all this, the user [[User:CNMall41|CNMall41]] has draftified the article multiple times. When asked about the policy, he simply forwarded the entire article, which was edited by multiple editors, to satisfy his personal ego. His actions are not collaborative and should be noted. [[User:Shecose|Shecose]] ([[User talk:Shecose|talk]]) 09:23, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:OMG, I was *just* writing about this on the talk page [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islamophobia_in_Poland#Jumping_in_to_create_artificial_reverts] - about Icewhiz's [[WP:GAME]] tactic of "jumping in" when someone else is making edits to the article to insert his own (relatively minor) edits in between the other editor's edits so that there edits would be non-consecutive so that he could then pretend that these are separate reverts. I mean, freakin a', I explicitly say "Icewhiz, I know you're jumping in between my edits, creating edit conflicts and sticking in your own edits between mine so that you can run to 3RR and file a spurious report" and then... that's exactly what he freakin' does! The WP:GAME is just shameless here. He's used this tactic before (gimme a few minutes to dig out the diffs) and has been admonished for it by administrators ([[User:NeilN]] and [[User:TonyBallioni]] iirc), per [[WP:GAME]]. In fact, if you look at the time line here it's pretty obvious that that's exactly what he's attempting to do here. He made no edits to the article between 9:58 and 19:55 but then when I made my first edit at 19:55 he started jumping in between my edits all of sudden within seconds. If he had laid off, these would all be consecutive edits which at most would count as a single revert. This is dishonest, cynical and [[WP:TENDENTIOUS]] and the fact that he's doing it at exactly the same time as I am complaining about it on talk (and outlining the strategy he plans on using) makes it obnoxiously transparent. [[WP:BOOMERANG]] please.[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 21:06, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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*I am going to advise that we delay any action here until [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shecose]] is resolved. — [[User:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">Red-tailed hawk</span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Red-tailed hawk|<span style="color: #660000">(nest)</span>]]</sub> 17:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:: I am trying to write an article - inserting what I read in academic journal articles - this evening from [[Gender, Place & Culture]]. As I'm doing so - Volunteer Marek reverts these new additions - e.g. [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909659763&oldid=909659528 diff] - using the odd, and false, edit summary of "put ref back in". And no - I have not been admonished for any such behavior. Adding material from academic journal articles is what editors are supposed to do on Wikipedia. It would be nice if Volunteer Marek tried to actually contribute to articles (as opposed to just removed content sourced to academic journal articles). [[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]] ([[User talk:Icewhiz|talk]]) 21:23, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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*:That is because {{u|CNMall41}}'s only possible actual justification for the move warring against a draftification objection is block evasion, and their actions would normally lead to a block. And even if this <em>is</em> block evasion, waiting for the investigation's result would have been advisable. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 19:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*{{AN3|p}}: Move protection for now, and if redirection is still desired, please start a deletion discussion for it ([[WP:ATD-R]]). Even if this is sockpuppetry, the page qualifies neither for [[WP:G5|G5]] (due to substantial edits by others) nor redirection as a form of reverting block evasion (due to collateral damage). In such cases, it can help to focus on the content and decide independently of whether someone might be a sockpuppeteer. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 19:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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:{{u|Shecose}}, {{tqq|to satisfy his personal ego}} (above and in [[Special:Diff/1268349248]] too) is a personal attack; you too should focus on the content. [[User:ToBeFree|~ ToBeFree]] ([[User talk:ToBeFree|talk]]) 20:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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{{an3|w}}. On the one hand, those technical reverts could be viewed as consecutive, due to confusion. On the other hand, Volunteer Marek should be more cognizant of the edit history to avoid technically violating 3RR. Anyway, I'm just going to make a note of this at [[Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Antisemitism in Poland]], so that the Committee is aware this is happening while the case is open. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 21:44, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:These are edits made within minutes, seconds of each other. Usually when I'm editing I don't check the edit history in between every single edit I make. All four edits could've been made consecutively if Icewhiz hadn't "jumped in" to create impression of false reverts. There is ONE revert here and that's it. Icewhiz has tried this tactic before [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RRArchive370#Volunteer_Marek:_reported_by_User:Icewhiz_(Result:_Page_protected_%E2%80%93_consider_dispute_resolution)] [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:NeilN&diff=prev&oldid=847708177] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:NeilN/Archive_46#WP:GAME_and_WP:BATTLEGROUND_by_Icewhiz]. He was admonished for it by either [[User:NeilN]] or [[User:TonyBallioni]] (you'll have to give me a bit of time to dig out that diff) because it was such a transparent attempt at [[WP:GAME]]ing.[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 21:57, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:(note I got an edit conflict) when writing the above.[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 21:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:: False assertions - no such admonishment (VM did place walls of texts on the talk pages of multiple admins). The last time I reported VM (a while back - a year ago?) to AN/EW - he was warned IIRC. In this [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909659763&oldid=909659528 19:59, 6 August 2019] edit - VM removed stuff I had just added - [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Islamophobia_in_Poland&diff=909659528&oldid=909659359 19:58, 6 August 2019]. He should have seen the edit conflict (assuming he didn't purposefully select an old revision (which also generates a warning), the Wiki Software opens the edit conflict dialog) - instead - he just saved over on top of it - at the very least that's careless and inconsiderate. If you have an edit conflict - you are supposed to resolve it. That VM is complaining that I am adding content from an article in the [[Gender, Place & Culture]] journal (to an article I started on 3 August, after some editors decided that in their opinion Islamophobia is not racism - and excluded Islamophobia content (then small - 2.5K) from [[Racism in Poland]]) - is really quite astounding. Much of my on-wiki time in past couple of days has been spent building up [[Islamophobia in Poland]] from scratch.[[User:Icewhiz|Icewhiz]] ([[User talk:Icewhiz|talk]]) 22:12, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:::All your obfuscation in the world won't change the fact that you're disingenuously trying to pass off one revert as four reverts, and that you're doing this with full knowledge that you are being disingenuous, because about 20 minutes before this report I specifically '''predicted''' that that's what you were trying to do by jumping in with minor edits in between mine to create the impression of false reverts.[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 02:00, 7 August 2019 (UTC) |
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== [[User: |
== [[User:Ger2024]] reported by [[User:Sunnyediting99]] (Result: Sock indefinitely blocked) == |
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'''Page:''' {{pagelinks| |
'''Page:''' {{pagelinks|Korean clans of foreign origin}} <br /> |
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'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks| |
'''User being reported:''' {{userlinks|Ger2024}} |
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'''Previous version reverted to:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=David_Cross&diff=909186015&oldid=907029390] |
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'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
'''Diffs of the user's reverts:''' |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title= |
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268290255 02:00 9 January 2025 (UTC)] "Undid revision 1268223854 by CountHacker (talk)" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268311919 04:26 9 January 2025 (UTC)] "Undid revision 1268302350 by Sunnyediting99 (talk) There is no real way to track the origin of all Korean Bongwan. However the fact that Lady Saso gave birth to Hyeokgeose and that Lady Saso came from China was recorded in Encyclopedia of Korean Culture. If this does not prove, then most korean bongwan that has foreign origin are not proven as well. None will be valid then." |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=David_Cross&diff=next&oldid=909678898] - Revision as of 22:28, 6 August 2019 |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268314212 04:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC)] "Undid revision 1268312984 by Sunnyediting99 (talk)Then most Korean surname of foreign origin will not be proven as well, including those from Mongolia, Vietnam, & India. Most of the information from this page is taken from Encyclopedia of Korean Culture in Naver, which was provided by Korean themselves. Also even if Lady Saso came from Buyeo. Buyeo is centered in today's northeast China." |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=David_Cross&diff=next&oldid=909679811[ - Revision as of 22:35, 6 August 2019 |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title= |
# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268315826 04:49, 9 January 2025 (UTC)] "Undid revision 1268314825 by Sunnyediting99 (talk)" |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268321128 05:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC)] "Undid revision 1268318492 by CountHacker (talk) There are only 3 therories, the golden egg is extremely unlikely. The other theory is Buyeo & China. The Buyeo theory does not have much supported evidence. On the other hand the China theory, have some sources supporting it in Encyclopedia of korean culture and also in Korean language and literature dictionary (provided by korean academist) in Naver)" |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Meters&diff=prev&oldid=909681085] |
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'''Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:''' |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:David_Cross&diff=909680637&oldid=819012403] |
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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268314825 04:43 9 January 2025 (UTC)]: "Please engage with me on the talk page rather than undoing my edits and trying to edit war, first and foremost most of the page is unsourced to begin with, so its not really drawing from the Encylopedia. Additionally, the Samguk Yusa is not a reliable source and its disputed if its Buyeo or China. Finally, Buyeo is generally considered a Koreanic state by academics." |
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# [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268321486 05:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)] "Lady Saso: Reply" |
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'''Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:''' |
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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268313619 04:36 9 January 2025 (UTC)] "Lady Saso: New Section" |
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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&oldid=1268321324 05:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC)] "Lady Saso: Reply" |
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<u>'''Comments:'''</u> <br /> |
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Taken from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=1268322379 ANI report] i had submitted when I should have submitted here. |
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While one edit is just outside the 24-hour range, [[WP:EDITWAR]] considers that gaming the system or showing a clear pattern of edit-warring behavior is actionable. I would also note that while policy allows an exemption for "clear violations of the policy on biographies of living persons", this editor is edit-warring based on his objectively inaccurate perception of BLP, which does not contain the blanket prohibition he claims it does. Indeed, this very editor is in the midst of a discussion about this exact thing at [[Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons#Names and birth dates of non-notable children (again)]], demonstrating this is in no way a settled issue or "clear". In the meantime, he is edit-warring to revert longstanding non-violative status quo.[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 23:12, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:* {{AN3|no}}, good-faith usage of BLP exception. Removal of a child's name is within the scope of [[WP:BLPPRIVACY]] and qualifies for exemption. {{u|Tenebrae}}, your best course of action is to show, on the article's talk page, that the name is so widely published in multiple sources that the privacy exemption no longer applies. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 23:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:::Thanks for responding quickly, [[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]. The existing citation is that of the parent announcing it on a TV talk show to millions of people. I could certainly add four or five magazine and newspaper citations encompassing millions more. In all seriousness I ask: If I supply, say, four additional citations indicating that the name is ''that'' widely published, may I restore the article? --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 23:30, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::::Thisi s not the place to discuss that. There are threads open on the article's talk page concernignthis edit, and on the policy's talk concernign the interpretation of the policy, the essay,. and the RFD from 2015 that you have used to justify such previously undiscussed personal information content. [[User:Meters|Meters]] ([[User talk:Meters|talk]]) 23:36, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::Please respect the admin enough to let them answer themselves. --[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 23:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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::::<span class="template-ping">@[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]]:</span> As I stated above, your best course of action is to discuss that matter '''on the article's talk page'''. —'''[[User:C.Fred|C.Fred]]''' ([[User_talk:C.Fred|talk]]) 23:45, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:::::I will do so. No need for boldface; I was simply seeking guidance.--[[User:Tenebrae|Tenebrae]] ([[User talk:Tenebrae|talk]]) 23:47, 6 August 2019 (UTC) |
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== [[User:Bathtub Barracuda]] reported by [[User:General Ization]] (Result: 48 hours) == |
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;Page: {{pagelinks|2019 El Paso shooting}} |
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;User being reported: {{userlinks|Bathtub Barracuda}} |
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Ger2024 has been [[Wikipedia:Edit warring]] and violated [[WP:3RR]] (they have as of now made five reverts) and possibly [[WP:NPOV]] despite my direct requests asking them to [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268314825 not engage in an edit war] and to instead discuss with me and @CountHacker on the Talk Page. While they did respond to my efforts to try to talk to them on the Talk Page, they immediately then reverted my edits after they made their comments. The initial edits started when another Wikipedia user was verifying and deleting some info on the page (likely for factual accuracy) when the reverts began. |
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;Previous version reverted to: |
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In regards to WP:NPOV, there is a POV push, despite the multiple corrections both I and @CountHacker have issued. We notified the user that the same source they are using from is generally considered historically unreliable because it is a collection of folklore and legends (the source, while a valuable insight into Korean folklore, claims that the founder of the Korean kingdom of Silla was born from a literal Golden Egg, so cannot be taken to be factual because humans cannot be born from Golden Eggs). |
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;Diffs of the user's reverts: |
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# {{diff2|909721524|05:25, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909721375 by [[Special:Contributions/QuestFour|QuestFour]] ([[User talk:QuestFour|talk]]) This is not concensus, this is POV editing, from your part. Information length and format has already been condensed and Macron's mention deleted. Japan stays." |
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# {{diff2|909721181|05:21, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Middle ground." |
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# {{diff2|909718771|04:49, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909718560 by [[Special:Contributions/Ianmacm|Ianmacm]] ([[User talk:Ianmacm|talk]]) Then fix the plethora of inclusions already within the "US" and "Mexico" which consitutes 70% of the section's length, or dismiss altoghether the "Reactions" section. Travel warnings are state issued documents, and are quite relevant." |
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# {{diff2|909718019|04:40, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909717810 by [[Special:Contributions/Ianmacm|Ianmacm]] ([[User talk:Ianmacm|talk]]). See talk section and stop POV editing." |
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# {{diff2|909717627|04:36, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "" |
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# {{diff2|909715683|04:13, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Undid revision 909715385 by [[Special:Contributions/General Ization|General Ization]] ([[User talk:General Ization|talk]]) Keep the format consistent." |
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Despite trying to talk to them, they are just ignoring my and CountHackers actual points, and we even had more discussion but they just made their fifth revert. |
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;Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning: |
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# {{diff2|909717900|04:38, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "General note: Unconstructive editing on [[:2019 El Paso shooting]]. ([[WP:TW|TW]])" |
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# {{diff2|909720089|05:06, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "Warning: Three-revert rule on [[:2019 El Paso shooting]]. ([[WP:TW|TW]])" |
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End of ANI Report: Additional comment I would like to add, reflecting on this a few hours later, I think [[WP:SPA]] might be relevant, something unusual is that the account has only edited on this specific page (they have made 49 edits total, 47/49 of these edits are all on this page and/or the talk page despite the account being 10 months old), and i found it a bit unusual that the account reverted someone elses edits within [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1268290255 38 minutes] after being inactive since [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Korean%20clans%20of%20foreign%20origin&diff=prev&oldid=1224380972 May 18th, 2024] based off their [[Special:Contributions/Ger2024|user contributions history]]. |
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;Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: |
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# {{diff2|909716149|04:18, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Reactions */ |
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# {{diff2|909716528|04:22, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Due weight of reactions */" |
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# {{diff2|909718204|04:42, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Reactions */" |
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# {{diff2|909718566|04:47, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Reactions */" |
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# {{diff2|909718745|04:49, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Reactions */" |
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# {{diff2|909719232|04:56, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Reactions */" |
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# {{diff2|909719429|04:58, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Reactions */" |
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# {{diff2|909719876|05:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)}} "/* Reactions */" |
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'''Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page:''' [https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User%20talk:Ger2024&diff=prev&oldid=1268383344 14:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)] |
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;<u>Comments:</u> |
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[[User:Sunnyediting99|Sunnyediting99]] ([[User talk:Sunnyediting99|talk]]) 14:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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*Indefinitely blocked as a sock.--[[User:Bbb23|Bbb23]] ([[User talk:Bbb23|talk]]) 14:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC) |
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User:5.187.0.85 reported by User:Darth Stabro (Result: /21 blocked for three years)
[edit]Page: UNITA (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 5.187.0.85 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 04:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268102408 by Untamed1910 (talk)"
- 04:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268102323 by Untamed1910 (talk)"
- 04:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268102267 by Untamed1910 (talk)"
- 04:42, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268101988 by MrOllie (talk)"
- 04:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268074482 by MrOllie (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments: Vandalism
- Blocked – for a period of 3 years The range 5.187.0.0/21 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) by Ahect Daniel Case (talk) 22:56, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
User:BubbleBabis reported by Shadowwarrior8 (Result: No violation)
[edit]Page: Ahmed al-Sharaa (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: BubbleBabis (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [1]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [6] (7 January 2025)
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [7]
Comments: The user was warned multiple times to not insert poorly sourced contentious material in a page which is a living person's biography. Despite this, the user has continued to insert original research, while making no attempt to refrain from disruptive editing behaviour or initiate a discussion on the talk page.
Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 11:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I've made my position clear. There is NO source that supports your version that between October 2006 and January 2012 he was not a member of any group. The current version is both manipulative (goes from 2006 Mujahideen Shura Council straight to 2012 al-Nusra) and contradicts RS that mention him as member of ISI in that period. There are RS that support my version, none that supports yours. A revision that'd include "2008-2012 ISI" (which would bypass his prison years 2006-08) would be a better solution. But a career infobox that straight-up omits the entire 2006-12 period is unacceptable.--BubbleBabis (talk) 19:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. And really, this deserves more talking out on the talk page, which hasn't seen any discussion of this for a week (But, that having been said, if it continues like this I or another admin may be less tolerant). Daniel Case (talk) 23:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- I would like to note the previous discussion about this particular editor, who has a penchant for creating hoaxes, adding off-topic information about al Qaeda to unrelated articles, and a tendency to steal entire sentences from other articles for their additions may be found at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive368#User BubbleBabis. Aneirinn (talk) 20:24, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. And really, this deserves more talking out on the talk page, which hasn't seen any discussion of this for a week (But, that having been said, if it continues like this I or another admin may be less tolerant). Daniel Case (talk) 23:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Sokoreq reported by User:Cambial Yellowing (Result: Blocked one week)
[edit]Page: Science of Identity Foundation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Sokoreq (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 11:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Reverted 2 edits by Cambial Yellowing (talk) to last revision by Sokoreq"
- 18:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1267996553 by Hipal (talk) please don't revert, and don't start an edit war. even if you are right, please discuss your concerns on my talk page"
- 17:57, 7 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1267995628 by Hipal (talk)"
- 17:49, 7 January 2025 (UTC) "Reverted 1 edit by Hipal (talk) to last revision by Sokoreq"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Comments:
- Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 12:46, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Garudam reported by User:Someguywhosbored (Result: Conditionally declined)
[edit]Page: History of India (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Garudam (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [diff preferred, link permitted]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning: [12] he removed my warning for whatever reason
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [13]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [14]
Comments:
Dont even know where to start with this one. I tried many avenues to solve this with him even after he started edit warring, and his newest replies completely ignored the fact that he has done that. There was a clear consesnsus that the content removal was justified on the talk page. At the time of the edit warring, it was 3-1 with most agreeing that it should be deleted. He completely ignored that fact entirely. I warned him about edit warring, and his response was to remove the warning template on his talk page. The content itself has a ton of issues which we went over in the talk page(completely different dynasty, contradiction by a more authoritative source, not using the term “indianized”)Its clear that my efforts to reach out to him have failed and the content still remains on the article. And non of his new responses have even refuted or mentioned the points made. Requesting administrative action. (Someguywhosbored (talk) 15:50, 8 January 2025 (UTC))
- Comment: This is a poor report filed by Someguywhosbored. They’re clearly doing their best to hide their obvious flaws. The page in question, History of India, was actually protected indefinitely for 3 days at my request [15] because someguywhosbored was constantly disrupting and destabilizing the article by removing authoritative sources [16][17][18][19], despite the ongoing discussion on the talk page. Also note that they were previously warned by Drmies for the same reason [20]. Another user has recently restored the stable version of the article [21]. Not to mention the user they are claiming to gain consensus with i.e. Noorullah21 was also warned by an admin [22].
- PS: Their WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality is clearly visible through their essay like replies below, I'd rather refrain from replying back to them. Garuda Talk! 16:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nice, you didn’t even mention the fact your edit warring here.
- “ The page in question, History of India, was actually protected indefinitely for 3 days at my request [31] because someguywhosbored was constantly disrupting and destabilizing the article by removing authoritative sources [32][33][34][35], despite the ongoing discussion on the talk page”
- wow. All of these points are completely disingenuous. Firstly, if you read the talk page, Flemmish and noorullah both agreed with my edits. Even you eventually agreed that the content should at least be reworded because the sources don’t even follow what’s written on the article. You requested page protection, wrongfully accusing me of edit warring and disruption. And to be clear, it took several replies for you to even acknowledge the points that were made. Even now you’re completely ignoring the points I’ve made in the talk page. All you’ve stated recently is that you’re restoring a stable version. That doesn’t answer any of my concerns at all. The discussion began on my talk page. You ignored and didn’t even respond to any of the points made. There was no discussion on the history of India talk page until I brought it there(because you were ignoring me). And you kept dismissing the points until Flemmish called you out[23]. So don’t act like you seriously tried to discuss this with me. You only bothered talking once you realized that simply reverting the page and wrongfully requesting page protection wouldn’t get your way. And even now you ignored the completely valid reasons for the contents removal.
- “Also note that they were previously warned by Drmies for the same reason”
- Again, disingenuous. He’s bringing up a random conversation over a year ago that began over a simple miscommunication error. Drmies stated himself
- “ That's better, thanks. I am not a content expert: I did not revert you because I disagreed with the content. As for the talk page--if you had mentioned that in your edit summary”
- The entire issue was that he didn’t see what I wrote on the talk page because my edit showed up as “no edit summary” even though I could have sworn I left one. Regardless, you’re making this out to be some kind of big problem when in the end, Drmies stated himself that he didn’t disagree with me removing the content. Again, if there was an edit summary, he wouldn’t have reverted. It was just a miscommunication error like I said. And this happened over a year ago when I first started editing. So why are you making that out to be a bigger deal than it is?
- [24]
- Regardless, even if you think you’re justified for edit warring, you shouldn’t be edit warring. That’s why I’ve avoided reverting you for a 4th time, so I won’t break 3RR.
- It’s clear you’re not going to stop making the same changes even if someone reverts you. You haven’t even acknowledged what you’re doing as breaking policy. Someguywhosbored (talk) 16:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also, I’m pretty sure noorullah only reverted once so I have no idea why they received a warning. Regardless, that’s not the main issue here. Someguywhosbored (talk) 16:36, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Declined Garudam, who is aware of CTOPS as the article indisputably comes under ARBIPA, has said he is "considering taking a break" and seems from his most recent editing history to have actually done so. This is a good idea IMO, as long as he keeps to his word on this. If he comes back early and just resumes the same behavior, at least a partial block from the page would be in order. Daniel Case (talk) 23:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- That sounds good to me. I’m guessing he will get reverted anyway. If he reverts again, I’ll mention it here. Someguywhosbored (talk) 23:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
User:37.72.154.146 reported by User:Flat Out (Result: Blocked 24h)
[edit]Page: Westville Boys' High School (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 37.72.154.146 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- Consecutive edits made from 14:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC) to 17:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- 14:41, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Awards System */"
- 16:24, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Awards System */"
- 16:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Awards System */"
- 16:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Awards System */"
- 16:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Awards System */"
- 16:37, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Awards System */"
- 16:39, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Awards System */"
- 16:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Awards System */"
- 17:01, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Modern times */"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 11:32, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Caution: Addition of unsourced or improperly cited material on Westville Boys' High School."
- 11:34, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Notice: Conflict of interest on Westville Boys' High School."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 11:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* COI tag (January 2025) */ new section"
Comments: Blocked – for a period of 24 hours Daniel Case (talk) 23:40, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Hemiauchenia by User:NotQualified (Result: No violation)
[edit]Page: Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Hemiauchenia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to: [25]
Diffs of the user's reverts:
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page: [27]
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: [28]
Comments:
I edited Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom and added templates for weasel words and unbalanced following Wikipedia:Edit warring#How to avoid an edit war. To my surprise, as I tried to submit my edit to address issues with the text, the user in question had already reverted my tags without discussion and just childishly wrote "No." as their justification for their revert, and then astonishingly raised the article protection. I then went to said user's talk page to try and discuss my numerous concerns, adding in-line templates for every line to truly help them see what I saw wrong with it as obviously I would assume good faith and just that their must have been some confusion, and even more astonishingly in under a minute they silently deleted that talk page discussion.
- WP:AVOIDEDITWAR This is beyond any possibility of good faith. I am saying this is now an irrefutable major abuse of power.
There are obvious weasel words and I am very much calling into question the balancing of the writing used and the user can't just revert and raise protection level. Proper procedure is to discuss via talk page. NotQualified (talk) 01:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- They have been warned before about editing Child Sex Abuse in the UK in bad faith
- User talk:Hemiauchenia#January 2025
- """
- Please stop. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Huddersfield sex abuse ring, you may be blocked from editing. FoxtAl (talk) 14:58, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Stop warning people when you're edit warring against multiple other editors. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:12, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- They're up to it again NotQualified (talk) 01:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- """ NotQualified (talk) 01:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- NotQualified's almost entire contribution history has been to overtly push a right-wing agenda on Wikipedia regarding British politics. I think that they are a net negative to the encyclopedia and should be blocked per WP:NOTHERE. There has been consistent consensus against NQ's position, see for example Talk:Grooming_gang_moral_panic_in_the_United_Kingdom/Archive_1#Requested_move_3_September_2024 (this article was merged in to the " Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom" article), which shows the consensus regarding the issue is completely opposite to NQs position, and shows that the tags are unjustified. I am completely entitled to revert any post on my talkpage (which is what NQ means when he says I "tried to delete me reporting them", and I have also only reverted once today on the "Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom" article and so am not in violation of the 3RR. I assume NQ has interpreted having an edit conflict as me having the powers to raise protection levels, which as a non-admin I have absolutely no powers to do. Hemiauchenia (talk) 01:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- "NotQualified's almost entire contribution history has been to overtly push a right-wing agenda on Wikipedia regarding British politics."
- Incorrect, for example I was the one who almost exclusively wrote about the James McMurdock of Reform UK abuse scandal, amongst other things. James McMurdock#Assault conviction
- Immediately accusing me of bad faith is deflection.
- "I think that they are a net negative to the encyclopedia and should be blocked per WP:NOTHERE."
- Genuinely shocking that you're suggesting my blocking, I didn't even go that far with you despite everything and all you're upset with is my supposed unfair edit history.
- "There has been consistent consensus against NQ's position, see for example Talk:Grooming_gang_moral_panic_in_the_United_Kingdom/Archive_1#Requested_move_3_September_2024"
- Weasel words aren't mentioned even once in this discussion. Some discussion is about balance but you couldn't even know my gripe if you just delete my discussion with you.
- "I "tried to delete me reporting them""
- I edited this out of my report because I didn't think it was explained clearly but as you commented on it, I meant reporting you to you. I can understand the confusion.
- "I have also only reverted once today on the "Child sexual abuse in the United Kingdom" article"
- 3RR is not the only edit warring rule and honestly this is redundant if you just raise protection levels to block any more edits to begin with NotQualified (talk) 02:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- No violation. This report is a mess. Bbb23 (talk) 02:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is wrong with the report? That I didn't perfectly follow the template? That doesn't mean a violation didn't take place. I can re-format my report, one moment NotQualified (talk) 02:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @NotQualified: Do not "re-format" this report. If you insist on filing a report that is readable, file a new one, but there would still be no violation. Also, do not copy in other users' comments into reports. It's very confusing and hard to follow. You can include them by saying "so-and-so did this" and use a diff to show what the user did. The way you did it made it look like those users had commented on your report. That was the messiest part of the report.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm still learning how to format on Wikipedia, so sorry. I re-formatted before you posted. Why would there be "... still be no violation"? I understand that I shouldn't directly post user comments and should follow template next time, but I am confused at how their conduct is acceptable. 3RR is not the only rule and is largely redundant when I'm accusing the user of raising protection levels after a single revert and then refusing to discuss it when brought up on their talk page. NotQualified (talk) 02:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I will try to put my report as brief as possible, so there is no confusion.
- I add templates to an article with faults
- The user immediately reverts without explanation and raises the protection level
- I, assuming good faith, go to them in accordance with protocol and show my problems line by line
- They immediately revert that, justifying it in the revert log by saying I have a "right wing agenda" (I do not) amongst other nonsense. This is even more concerning when most of my so-called "right wing [propaganda]" recent edits are rape gang scandal related.
- I see that they've actually been reported for the exact same thing a week ago, wiping articles of child sex abuse in the UK. This is a pattern of behaviour of bad faith.
- Knowing now I'm dealing with a troll with privileges, I go here and try to explain my case
- I notify the user
- I am not familiar with all the protocols of Wikipedia so my report is messy
- Their defense is lies, I go line by line saying why. The only crux of their argument is that they technically didn't violate 3RR because instead of reverting anything else they did something far worse and raised the protection level
- You tell me my report is messy and there's no problem
- I hope I summarised that in a way that makes more sense but I fully acknowledge you know more than me and could correct a mistake in my analysis NotQualified (talk) 02:25, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- They edited the above answer "I assume NQ has interpreted having an edit conflict as me having the powers to raise protection levels, which as a non-admin I have absolutely no powers to do."
- That seems to be the case, so I apologise for the confusion caused. I still argue however they are in repeat violation of rules around UK rape incidents and I personally think that due to it being a pattern of behaviour there should be at least a warning given, if not a total suspension from editing on rape or abuse in the UK. I do not believe reverting a template is enough for a warning, even given that's generally bad conduct. but refusing to discuss afterwards and furthermore this being a repeat pattern of behaviour makes me question the impartiality and good faith of the editor.
- I admit, my report could've been formatted better, and I apologise for saying they raised protection when they didn't, that must've been an edit conflict that confused me. They are not in violation of 3RR and as they haven't raised protection but they've acted poorly, repeatedly, and I've refuted their arguments above quite clearly around conduct. I am not calling for a general suspension. I am however at least calling for warning to be given, or better a ban on editing UK rape scandals.
- I am going to re-add weasel words and balance to the section. NotQualified (talk) 02:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I will try to put my report as brief as possible, so there is no confusion.
- I'm still learning how to format on Wikipedia, so sorry. I re-formatted before you posted. Why would there be "... still be no violation"? I understand that I shouldn't directly post user comments and should follow template next time, but I am confused at how their conduct is acceptable. 3RR is not the only rule and is largely redundant when I'm accusing the user of raising protection levels after a single revert and then refusing to discuss it when brought up on their talk page. NotQualified (talk) 02:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @NotQualified: Do not "re-format" this report. If you insist on filing a report that is readable, file a new one, but there would still be no violation. Also, do not copy in other users' comments into reports. It's very confusing and hard to follow. You can include them by saying "so-and-so did this" and use a diff to show what the user did. The way you did it made it look like those users had commented on your report. That was the messiest part of the report.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:15, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- What is wrong with the report? That I didn't perfectly follow the template? That doesn't mean a violation didn't take place. I can re-format my report, one moment NotQualified (talk) 02:10, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
User:80.200.232.89 reported by User:MrOllie (Result: Blocked one week)
[edit]Page: Biology and sexual orientation (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 80.200.232.89 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 02:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Genetic influence"
- 23:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Significant skill issues regarding the ability to read the edit summary and the study itself."
- 23:22, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268251743 by MrOllie (talk)"
- 21:29, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Rv straight up lying. The source itself asserts a 22% variance in shared environment, 43% in nonshared environment. Stop vandalizing the pages I edit."
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 23:53, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "Warning: Three-revert rule."
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 23:52, 8 January 2025 (UTC) "/* Vandalizing */"
Comments:
- Comment: I tried had a discussion with the IP editor on their talk page about misunderstandings on the definition on 'environment' which they seemed to come around on. But then they started adding in race science in other articles and edit warring there too. Blatant troll WP:NOTHERE. Zenomonoz (talk) 02:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- It wasn't an edit war you idiot, I only reverted the article there once.
- And I will revert edits done by MrOllie if they don't even provide a reason or a rebuttal for why what I did was wrong. You did, so I stopped. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 02:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also, how is talking about the genetic influence of homosexuality through the GWAS method controversial at all? I can accept that I was wrong regarding the environment dispute, but this is just ain't it. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 02:52, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- There is both unanswered discussion on the article talk page, as well as relevant discussion you had with Zenomonoz on your user talk. In any case, the onus is on you to secure agreement from other editors. MrOllie (talk) 03:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- In addition to the 4 reverts listed above, you're also up to 3 reverts at Genome-wide association study, not one as you claim. MrOllie (talk) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- You're just being purposefully antagonistic lol. We solved the issue already, that's why you didn't revert it again. Then zenomonoz strolls in and reverts because he thought the issue persisted, now he's just grasping straws and finding excuses like requiring a secondary source when half the God damn encyclopedia uses nothing but primary sources. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 04:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- To be clear the issue was the race and intelligence example I used. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 04:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- The issue is absolutely not 'solved'. That I was not willing to edit war in this instance does not mean that I agree with you. MrOllie (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- To be clear the issue was the race and intelligence example I used. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 04:28, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- You're just being purposefully antagonistic lol. We solved the issue already, that's why you didn't revert it again. Then zenomonoz strolls in and reverts because he thought the issue persisted, now he's just grasping straws and finding excuses like requiring a secondary source when half the God damn encyclopedia uses nothing but primary sources. 80.200.232.89 (talk) 04:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- In addition to the 4 reverts listed above, you're also up to 3 reverts at Genome-wide association study, not one as you claim. MrOllie (talk) 03:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Because Wikipedia is based upon secondary sources, like reviews, and not primary source studies that are often misinterpreted by readers (and editors) such as yourself. Zenomonoz (talk) 03:13, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- It's funny because 3 out of 7 (primary) sources used in the GWAS article can also be found in the article 'heritability of IQ' alone, just to illustrate my point to you about how you're grasping at straws 80.200.232.89 (talk) 04:35, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- There is both unanswered discussion on the article talk page, as well as relevant discussion you had with Zenomonoz on your user talk. In any case, the onus is on you to secure agreement from other editors. MrOllie (talk) 03:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of one week. Bbb23 (talk) 13:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
User:104.173.25.23 reported by User:Flat Out (Result: blocked 48 hours)
[edit]Page: The Time (band) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: 104.173.25.23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 04:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268310547 by C.Fred (talk) Already took it to talk"
- 04:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268310269 by PEPSI697 (talk)"
- 04:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268309093 by Tenebre.Rosso.Sangue995320 (talk)"
- 04:08, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268308251 by Galaxybeing (talk) Please stop the edit war. These reverts are vandalism."
- 04:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268080514 by Flat Out (talk) Deleted content is irrelevant and was inappropriately added"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
[warning https://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:104.173.25.23&diff=prev&oldid=1268312759] Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Ongoing edit warring after warning on users talk page Flat Out (talk) 04:31, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 48 hours —C.Fred (talk) 04:36, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Shecose reported by User:CNMall41 (Result: Page move-protected)
[edit]Page: Toxic: A Fairy Tale for Grown-Ups (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Shecose (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Previous version reverted to:
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 08:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268346390 by CNMall41 (talk) Undiscussed move. The editor is acting out of personal hate instead of collaborating."
- 08:43, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268345471 by CNMall41 (talk) Undiscussed move. There are multiple people edited this article."
- 08:33, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268344773 by CNMall41 (talk)"
Diffs of edit warring / 3RR warning:
Diffs of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
Comments:
Also note the SPI case CNMall41 (talk) 08:55, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
This article is about a highly anticipated film with a large base of interest. There are hundreds of references available following its teaser and poster release, and it has been confirmed that principal photography has begun. Despite all this, the user CNMall41 has draftified the article multiple times. When asked about the policy, he simply forwarded the entire article, which was edited by multiple editors, to satisfy his personal ego. His actions are not collaborative and should be noted. Shecose (talk) 09:23, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I am going to advise that we delay any action here until Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Shecose is resolved. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 17:12, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- That is because CNMall41's only possible actual justification for the move warring against a draftification objection is block evasion, and their actions would normally lead to a block. And even if this is block evasion, waiting for the investigation's result would have been advisable. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:48, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Page protected: Move protection for now, and if redirection is still desired, please start a deletion discussion for it (WP:ATD-R). Even if this is sockpuppetry, the page qualifies neither for G5 (due to substantial edits by others) nor redirection as a form of reverting block evasion (due to collateral damage). In such cases, it can help to focus on the content and decide independently of whether someone might be a sockpuppeteer. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 19:51, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Shecose,
to satisfy his personal ego
(above and in Special:Diff/1268349248 too) is a personal attack; you too should focus on the content. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:09, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
User:Ger2024 reported by User:Sunnyediting99 (Result: Sock indefinitely blocked)
[edit]Page: Korean clans of foreign origin (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
User being reported: Ger2024 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Diffs of the user's reverts:
- 02:00 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268223854 by CountHacker (talk)"
- 04:26 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268302350 by Sunnyediting99 (talk) There is no real way to track the origin of all Korean Bongwan. However the fact that Lady Saso gave birth to Hyeokgeose and that Lady Saso came from China was recorded in Encyclopedia of Korean Culture. If this does not prove, then most korean bongwan that has foreign origin are not proven as well. None will be valid then."
- 04:39, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268312984 by Sunnyediting99 (talk)Then most Korean surname of foreign origin will not be proven as well, including those from Mongolia, Vietnam, & India. Most of the information from this page is taken from Encyclopedia of Korean Culture in Naver, which was provided by Korean themselves. Also even if Lady Saso came from Buyeo. Buyeo is centered in today's northeast China."
- 04:49, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268314825 by Sunnyediting99 (talk)"
- 05:27, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Undid revision 1268318492 by CountHacker (talk) There are only 3 therories, the golden egg is extremely unlikely. The other theory is Buyeo & China. The Buyeo theory does not have much supported evidence. On the other hand the China theory, have some sources supporting it in Encyclopedia of korean culture and also in Korean language and literature dictionary (provided by korean academist) in Naver)"
Diff of edit warring / 3RR warning:
- 04:43 9 January 2025 (UTC): "Please engage with me on the talk page rather than undoing my edits and trying to edit war, first and foremost most of the page is unsourced to begin with, so its not really drawing from the Encylopedia. Additionally, the Samguk Yusa is not a reliable source and its disputed if its Buyeo or China. Finally, Buyeo is generally considered a Koreanic state by academics."
- 05:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Lady Saso: Reply"
Diff of attempt to resolve dispute on article talk page:
- 04:36 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Lady Saso: New Section"
- 05:29, 9 January 2025 (UTC) "Lady Saso: Reply"
Comments:
Taken from the ANI report i had submitted when I should have submitted here.
Ger2024 has been Wikipedia:Edit warring and violated WP:3RR (they have as of now made five reverts) and possibly WP:NPOV despite my direct requests asking them to not engage in an edit war and to instead discuss with me and @CountHacker on the Talk Page. While they did respond to my efforts to try to talk to them on the Talk Page, they immediately then reverted my edits after they made their comments. The initial edits started when another Wikipedia user was verifying and deleting some info on the page (likely for factual accuracy) when the reverts began.
In regards to WP:NPOV, there is a POV push, despite the multiple corrections both I and @CountHacker have issued. We notified the user that the same source they are using from is generally considered historically unreliable because it is a collection of folklore and legends (the source, while a valuable insight into Korean folklore, claims that the founder of the Korean kingdom of Silla was born from a literal Golden Egg, so cannot be taken to be factual because humans cannot be born from Golden Eggs).
Despite trying to talk to them, they are just ignoring my and CountHackers actual points, and we even had more discussion but they just made their fifth revert.
End of ANI Report: Additional comment I would like to add, reflecting on this a few hours later, I think WP:SPA might be relevant, something unusual is that the account has only edited on this specific page (they have made 49 edits total, 47/49 of these edits are all on this page and/or the talk page despite the account being 10 months old), and i found it a bit unusual that the account reverted someone elses edits within 38 minutes after being inactive since May 18th, 2024 based off their user contributions history.
Diff of ANEW notice posted to user's talk page: 14:01, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Sunnyediting99 (talk) 14:04, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Indefinitely blocked as a sock.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:26, 9 January 2025 (UTC)