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GA Review

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Reviewer: Ian Rose (talk · contribs) 15:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Will aim to get to this on or before the w/e. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 15:13, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Toolbox checks -- no dablink or EL issues.

Prose/structure/content

Happy structure/prose-wise, but let me know if I misunderstood anything in my copyedit.
Content-wise, only thing I thought might be missing is when Sam died -- do we know?

Images -- UK PD, no issues.

Sources -- Publisher/accessdate for Robin Turner (8 January 2015)?

Looking pretty good. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 06:48, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Curran died of cardiorespiratory arrest at the Nuffield McAlpine Hospital, Glasgow, on 25 February 1998, a few days after a prostate operation.
Fixed Turner. Thanks for your review! Hawkeye7 (talk) 02:01, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
A pleasure -- passing as GA. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:04, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Article looks good, but is there no further information that details her early childhood life or education? Vmalla3 (talk) 18:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Invented

She didn’t invent Chaff. Why are you persisting in this? 31.94.26.29 (talk) 18:46, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because that is what the Jones 1978 citation says. Please read the Verifiability not truth essay that states in a nut graph: Editors may not add content solely because they believe it is true, nor delete content they believe to be untrue, unless they have verified beforehand with a reliable source.

Here are the pertinent quotes:

‘smoke screen’ reflections was effectively the beginning of what came to be known in Britain as ‘Window’ and in America as “Chaff”^[1]
They were undertaken under Robert Cockburn’s direction at Swanage by Mrs. Joan Curran, now Lady Curran. Her results were all that we expected, and she tried various forms of reflector ranging from wires to leaflets, each roughly the size of a page in a notebook, on which, as a refinement, propaganda could be printed. The form that we finally favoured was a strip about 25 centimetres long and between 1 and 2 centimetres wide. The material was produced and made up into packets each weighing about a pound, and the idea was that the leading aircraft in a bomber stream would throw them out at the rate of one every minute or so, to produce the radar equivalent of a smoke-screen through which succeeding aircraft could fly. So much progress was made, after the years of delay, that by April 1942 enough material had been produced for it to be used by Bomber Command. It was given the code name “Window’ by A. P. Rowe, the Superintendent of T.R.E.^[2]

References

^ Jones 1978, p. 40.
^ Jones 1978, pp. 291–292.

Sources

Jones, R . V. (1978). Most Secret War. London: Hamilton. ISBN 0-241-89746-7. OCLC 3717534.

Peaceray (talk) 19:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

[FOOTNOTEJones1978[httpsarchiveorgdetailsmostsecretwar0000jonepage40mode2upqCurranWindowChaff_40]-1] Jones 1978, p. 40.

[FOOTNOTEJones1978[httpsarchiveorgdetailsmostsecretwar0000jonepage290mode2upqCurranWindowChaff_291]–[httpsarchiveorgdetailsmostsecretwar0000jonepage292mode2upqCurranWindowChaff_292]-2] Jones 1978, pp. 291–292.

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 She didn’t invent Chaff. Why are you persisting in this? [[Special:Contributions/31.94.26.29|31.94.26.29]] ([[User talk:31.94.26.29|talk]]) 18:46, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
+:Because that is what the Jones 1978 citation says. Please read the [[WP:VNT|Verifiability not truth]] essay that states in a [[nut graph]]: {{tq|Editors may not add content solely because they believe it is true, nor delete content they believe to be untrue, unless they have verified beforehand with a [[Wikipedia:Verifiability#Reliable sources|reliable source]].}}
+:Here are the pertinent quotes:
+:*{{tq|‘smoke screen’ reflections was effectively the beginning of what came to be known in Britain as ‘Window’ and in America as “Chaff”}}{{sfn|Jones|1978|p=[https://archive.org/details/mostsecretwar0000jone/page/40/mode/2up?q=Curran+Window+Chaff 40]}}
+:*{{tq|They were undertaken under Robert Cockburn’s direction at Swanage by Mrs. Joan Curran, now Lady Curran. Her results were all that we expected, and she tried various forms of reflector ranging from wires to leaflets, each roughly the size of a page in a notebook, on which, as a refinement, propaganda could be printed. The form that we finally favoured was a strip about 25 centimetres long and between 1 and 2 centimetres wide. The material was produced and made up into packets each weighing about a pound, and the idea was that the leading aircraft in a bomber stream would throw them out at the rate of one every minute or so, to produce the radar equivalent of a smoke-screen through which succeeding aircraft could fly. So much progress was made, after the years of delay, that by April 1942 enough material had been produced for it to be used by Bomber Command. It was given the code name “Window’ by A. P. Rowe, the Superintendent of T.R.E.}}{{sfn|Jones|1978|pp=[https://archive.org/details/mostsecretwar0000jone/page/290/mode/2up?q=Curran+Window+Chaff 291]–[https://archive.org/details/mostsecretwar0000jone/page/292/mode/2up?q=Curran+Window+Chaff 292]}}
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+:;Sources
+:*{{cite book |last=Jones |first=R . V. |author-link=R. V. Jones |title=Most Secret War |title-link=Most Secret War |publisher=Hamilton |location=London |oclc=3717534 |isbn=0-241-89746-7 |year=1978 }}
+:[[User:Peaceray|Peaceray]] ([[User talk:Peaceray|talk]]) 19:18, 10 January 2024 (UTC)