User talk:SamHolt6

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DYK for George Charles Beckley

On 29 January 2017, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article George Charles Beckley, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that according to family tradition, George Charles Beckley designed the Flag of Hawaii, which was passed down as an heirloom in the form of a child's frock? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/George Charles Beckley. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, George Charles Beckley), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Harrias ^talk 09:24, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

Invitation to join MILHIST

Hello, SamHolt6, you are hereby invited to join the Military history WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of topics related to military history, theory, and practice. You can add your name to the list of members, browse our showcase, train at the Academy, weigh in at current discussions, read the news, or find an open task. We hope you will join us! Anotherclown (talk) 05:32, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

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March Madness 2017

G'day all, please be advised that throughout March 2017 the Military history Wikiproject is running its March Madness drive. This is a backlog drive that is focused on several key areas:

• tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
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A page you started (Operation Rayon) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Operation Rayon, SamHolt6!

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Speedy deleting

Why did you delete my passage about king of thieves it is an actual game and it is the first topic I wrote Infominer17 (talk) 20:49, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

@Infominer17:. Nominated article for deletion based off of Wikipedia's criteria. The key word is nominated, an administrator deleted your page base off of my recommendation.--SamHolt6 (talk) 21:10, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello SamHolt6 If you don't know the person or the local area, I don't think you should try to gauge something as promotional when it clearly isn't. There are no dealership or physical stores linked to or mentioned. It is simply an article that highlights a local celebrity doing good in his community and country. Please take down your nomination if you aren't from the local area. If you don't' know the person that is fine, but many people from the local community will find this information useful. We do not have enough content in our local area and I would appreciate that we help each other and build each other up with positive information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by H abramyk (talk • contribs) 21:06, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

International Advertising Association deletion

It did not take more than a few seconds to erase my work. Are you proud now? The IAA is an advertising association giant, going well beyond any boundary that you appear to be aware of. Correspondingly, it plays a significant global role. You didn't give me (or anyone) a chance to add news references, but you'd be well advised - unless you suffer from a marked conflict of interest - to make yourself a little more knowledgeable about the ramifications of the industry. -- Kku (talk) 13:41, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Noted. Notice however that I tagged the page for deletion, and did not delete it myself. I recommend creating an article in your sandbox first before attempting to create to avoid this problem. As far as the IAA is concerned, the salting will prevent it from being created in the future. Regards. SamHolt6 (talk) 13:45, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing out the user space method. Even by only looking at the member list, it should have been fairly obvious that we are not discussing another fanboy site. Salting? What are you talking about? Do you mean to say there is a (hidden) switch to automatically erase stuff that was once (and for whatever bad reason) evaluated as not notable?? What kind of nonsense is this? -- Kku (talk) 13:58, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

OK. Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Creation_protection. Right. Since you appear to be aware of the mechanism, why did you NOT give me a chance to argue first? If the mechanism was in place before, why did it even let me recreate the thing? Are you aware of who salted the page and when (a quick glance at protected:pages did not provide me with any information) Please clarify. -- Kku (talk) 14:02, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Equilar, Inc.

Hi, I've declined your CSD on Equilar, Inc. because the sources there were enough to indicate the presence of some sort of notability. I'm not sure if it'd survive AfD, but take it there if you wish to delete it. There are some results on Google News when searching for the company, such as [1], [2], [3]. Anarchyte (work | talk) 01:19, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of CardRates.com

Thanks for reviewing the article. I have contested the deletion on the article's talk page and would be happy to edit it as necessary immediately if you would be willing to provide feedback. Steevven1 ^{(Talk) (Contribs) (Gallery)} 03:45, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

CSD tagging

I'm afraid I have had to revert a number of your CSD tags as they do not meet the criteria specified in WP:CSD. In particular, the WP:CSD#A7 "no indication of importance" is not "nominating for deletion". It is designed for articles on your pet cat, your next door neighbour, or a YouTuber you met once that are completely impossible (my emphasis) for any editor, no matter how determined, to be able to salvage into a working article. There is no way that Donald Trump Jr's defence lawyer fits that criteria.

I have to advise you to stop putting CSD tags on articles or I'm afraid I will be forced to block you from editing to avoid further disruption. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm reading through Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion, A7 is described as "No indication of importance (people, animals, organizations, web content, events." This applies to web content and people, yes? Have I been using ((Db-a7)) too broadly, and should I resort to the options listed below? Is the general sense of the argument that I should be more selective with my tags? SamHolt6 (talk) 15:00, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Well, I, Anarchyte, SoWhy and Kudpung have all declined CSDs from you recently, and while administrators aren't perfect, when four independently tell you you're making mistakes, odds are that we have a point. I would recommend User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to A7 and User:SoWhy/Common A7 mistakes as a starter instead of the policy page. The principal problem with CSDs is they bypass the core deletion policy which states that administrators never delete pages without a firm consensus - so the criteria is very narrowly scoped to avoid arguments over whether a unilateral deletion was correct or not, whenever possible. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:04, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Read the articles. It seems I managed to stumble into a number of pitfalls, most predominantly the policies on notability and verification. In the future I will resort to standard Afd if an article makes a claim, and I will reduce my usage of A7 in general. I do have one question though. I have been watching the developments on the Elenas Models page, where another editor has flagged the article for both A7 and G11. Why is this possible in this scenario and not in others, as the article does cite sources and make claims? SamHolt6 (talk) 15:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Brandpro Online would be another example. I would like to be certain, as articles along the lines of these two are the ones I want to be on the lookout for and be ready to evaluate.--SamHolt6 (talk) 15:50, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Citing sources is strictly speaking not relevant, although an article that cites reliable sources will almost certainly fail A7 since any subject that any reliable source thought worth covering is significant enough that further discussion is warranted. Regards SoWhy 16:06, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

I deleted Brandpro Online. I changed Elenas Models from CSD A7 to proposed deletion because one of the sources is an interview with the company founder. That's enough of a "hook" to make somebody potentially able to look at other sources and maybe write a sub. Personally, I'm not interested in Russian dating agencies (particularly ones that have a nasty feeling like they encourage human trafficking) and if I started improving the article I might need to explain to Mrs333 what on earth I'm doing on the computer (though she knows me well enough to believe "I'm saving a Wikipedia article from being deleted" to be a credible excuse); I'm sceptical anyone can improve it, so I've put the PROD tag on to see if anyone comes forward - if nobody does, it'll silently fade away into the background.

Ultimately, the best way you can learn what's acceptable to tag at CSD and what isn't is to spend more time contributing to debates at Articles for deletion first, and see what typically gets kept, and what gets thrown out. Then you'll have a "gut feel" for things. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

So trivial citations (for purposes of illustration, a small company citing their own website or a blog) can be discounted when judging for A7?--SamHolt6 (talk) 16:12, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

It depends entirely on the article and the context - you can't apply a hard and fast rule to this. For example, "JoeSchmoe666 is a l33t cool gamer who is wikkid on Roblox and Minecraft, check out his scores!" - that could cite YouTube, Facebook, Twitter and any number of gaming sites as "sources" but I'll still delete it per A7 without blinking. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 16:13, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Very well. The general outcome of this discussion is that I will be more conservative in my future evaluations. I will tag anything blatant to the best of my ability, but will more often resort to more in-detail and slower pace afd methods. Many thanks to Riche and SoWhy for the assistance.--SamHolt6 (talk) 16:21, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello again. Just wanted to say that on AccountSight, G4 doesn't apply. The discussion was closed after it was speedily deleted, which means the discussion did not last the whole minimum 7 days. Here's the relevant part of WP:G4: This criterion also does not cover content undeleted via a deletion review, or that was only deleted via proposed deletion or speedy deletion. Have a look here for more information, courtesy of SoWhy. Cheers, Anarchyte (work | talk) 06:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi, it's a bit disconcerting that I'm back here again, but I've just rejected your G1 nomination of Alex Kelser. G1 is used for incoherent text, which means that if you can understand what it says, G1 doesn't apply. I've since tagged the article with A7, but I think you should read over WP:CSD another time before Ritchie333 follows through with what he said above. Anarchyte (work | talk) 09:19, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Re: Srei Infrastructure Finance Limited

Hi! Kindly see my comments on the talk page of the article Srei Infrastructure Finance Limited. It will be great if you can mention why you feel it meets the G11 criteria for advertisement or promotions. The article in its current stage clearly does not meets the G11 criteria. If you are concerned, make a PROD or AfD. Amartyabag ^TALK2ME 06:49, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Reply

Hello dear Sam. Thank you for mentioning this. I think there is a misunderstanding here. I didn't intend to advertise or promote this NGO. Edoardo Agnelli is just a cultural NGO and not supported politically or financially by any governmental organization. I just created a page for the NGO in Wikipedia in order to introduce it as an association spreading peaceful thoughts and fighting extremism. You can see similar pages in Wikipedia such as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Society_of_Students https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Students%27_Association_(Indonesia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Society_(Bahrain)

Thank you again and good luck. Parimo70 (talk) 18:31, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

I see you have improved upon the page, it now passes Wikipedia's major criteria. SamHolt6 (talk) 23:31, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of Cheiron Inc.

Hey SamHolt6. The content posted for Cheiron Inc. is entirely factual and not meant for promoting or advertising the business. Would you be able to point out exactly what part of the post you thought was advertising? Also, you mentioned that it isn't clear as to why it is important to have a wiki page on Cheiron Inc. - If a company exists, is it not important to have information about it available on Wikipedia? Am I missing something? Cheiron Inc. consults cities, counties and states on various decisions that influence millions of people across America. Please advice me on how to improve the post to meet Wikipedias standards. Thank you. Karan lala (talk) 20:21, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Do you have a draft or page you can link to first? If so I can gladly help.--SamHolt6 (talk) 20:23, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Cheiron, Inc. Content

Cheiron Inc.

Company type	Actuarial, Consulting
Industry	Actuarial, Professional Services, Pension and Healthcare Consulting
Founded	2002
Headquarters	McLean, Virginia
Key people	Gene Kalwarski, President and Chief Executive Officer, Anu Patel, Chief Operating Officer, Peter Hardcastle, Chief Financial Officer
Number of employees	100
Website	www.cheiron.us

Cheiron Inc. is a pension and healthcare actuarial consulting firm headquartered in McLean, Va., with approximately 100 employees at nine offices nationwide. It is a privately held and employee-owned actuarial consulting firm providing services to public employers, multiemployer plans, non-profit organizations, and private sector plans. Cheiron was formed by Gene Kalwarski and six other consultants who left the Washington office of Milliman Inc. in 2002.

Company History

Cheiron was incorporated in Delaware in September 2002 and began business in November 2002.
2007: Cheiron acquired Feinstein Glaser Olney & Co.
2013: Cheiron acquired EFI Actuaries.

External Links

Cheiron

Karan lala (talk) 22:55, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Hey SamHolt6, I will appreciate any feedback on this. I think it might help if I try to create a page with just "Cheiron Inc. is a pension and healthcare actuarial consulting firm headquartered in McLean, Va., with approximately 100 employees at nine offices nationwide" and just go from there. Karan lala (talk) 19:01, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Re:

Sorry, fixed. Thanks for pointing it out. Alex Shih^Talk 17:15, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Perfect timing

It appears that we were trigger-happy at the exact same time...TJH2018talk 19:02, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Yah. Merged our two tags a moment ago.--SamHolt6 (talk) 19:03, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Celixir

Dear SamHolt6, I would urge you to re-read the article and read the comments of people above me on your talk page before re-proposing the deletion of the page Celixir. I can see no advertising content on this page. Since your original tag I have rewritten parts of the page which seemed as if it was advertising the company. I would also really appreciate any pointers on how to further improve the page from a experienced wikipedia moderator such as yourself. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkoohy (talk • contribs) 21:16, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion

Hello Sam,

Could you please provide me the content of the pages Digiteal and Teal IT that were deleted a few hours ago. Those were first versions that I intended to extend later on (first time contributor of Wikipedia, sorry).

Thanks in advance, Cedric — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cedneve (talk • contribs) 15:31, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Appologies, I do not have access to that information. Your best bet would be to contact the deleting admin.--SamHolt6 (talk) 18:19, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi SamHolt6. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Alex Shih^Talk 19:28, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Much obliged. SamHolt6 (talk) 19:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

A11 CSD

Hey! I undid your CSD just so I could re-add the CSD with the A11 template. I don't mean to step on your toes or anything, but I just thought it would be easier that way. Good eye by the way, that editor has been creating made-up pages for some time now. ‡ Єl Cid of ᐺalencia ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 13:53, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Not a problem. Cheers.--SamHolt6 (talk) 13:54, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Lisa Hoke

Hallo, you tagged this as {{nosources}}, but as it is an article about a probably living person and has no sources of any kind it should have gone straight to BLP PROD. PamD 17:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Notifying article creators about an AfD

Hi there,

Just a heads up that common practice is to notify article creators when nominating an article for deletion (or proposing deletion, or tagging for speedy deletion). If you use Twinkle, it does this automatically when creating a nomination page. Otherwise, it's just {{subst:Afd notice| Milford Drive-In Theater}}. It's not a strict rule (there are some cases when it does not make sense to notify someone, and sometimes the creator only created, say, a redirect and isn't the primary editor of a page), but very standard wikiquette. I've gone ahead and notified the creator of Milford Drive-In Theater. Sorry if you know all this and you just hadn't gotten to it yet. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:55, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Your revert on Talk:United Daughters of the Confederacy

I'd like to question your revert of my reversion on this Talk page. This is what Earwig's detector gave me for the revision. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 01:51, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

It's obvious copyvio, see the word "our". Doug Weller talk 06:47, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of NestAway

The page was previously deleted because references were press releases. However, the company is a recognized establishment in the country now, has received several rounds of funding and has been neutrally covered by Category A media publications of the country. There are bylined news articles by staff writers in independent, reliable sources. Kindly go through the current version again as the previous one has been improved. RajkGuj (talk) 20:02, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of BCMMetrics

Hi there. The BCMMetrics page was previously deleted because it "read too much like an advertisement." I have since had a writer and editor who are knowledgeable about writing in a neutral manner for Wikipedia re-work the article and references, removing a substantial amount of information to really simplify the article. The resources used have also been updated, and are all reputable sources. I updated that post today, and it was deleted again. Could you please advise as to what I should do in order to get this page restored? Thank you! (talk) 15:41, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Gshultis, your "rework" of the page was almost identical to the page that was deleted as a result of this deletion discussion. This means it falls into the G4 category of speedy deletions, "duplication of a page deleted at XFD".

As a minor point, I notice that your account is the one that created both versions of the page, but this contradicts what you have just said here. Please do not be sharing your account information with anyone else; only one person is allowed to use one account. If you have people helping you, please have them create their own accounts.

If you wish to write about BCMMetrics, I highly suggest you use the Article Wizard to create a Draft, which will be reviewed by experienced editors after submission. Primefac (talk) 15:55, 28 August 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Can a freelancer publish a wikipedia page or not?

Can a freelancer publish a wikipedia page or not? I'm getting lot of speedy deletion messages on my articles. I don't know what the hell is wrong with wikipedia mentors.

Friendly note

Hi, thanks for restoring the tags in Michele Di Salvo. However, unless I'm missing something, the article was mentioned in only one COIN thread and so far no one has been blocked because of it. Just want to clear any confusion since many editors are eager to pounce on any mistake we make while working on the COIN cases. Rentier (talk) 17:43, 2 September 2017 (UTC)