User talk:آرمین هویدایی/Archive 1

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August 2015

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In any case, that material is already in Shan's artice and I've redirected it there. Doug Weller (talk) 15:08, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

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Ricky Martin sales

What Forbes can say about worldwide sales?! They don't have how calculate the sales around the world, they understand about money, not record sales. The certifications and official charts are the most reliable criteria to know the success or failure of an album. All important articles about music here in Wikipedia stopped use inflated sales created by fans and used in other websites and base the sales by the certifications and peak positions. For exemple the album Thriller by Michael Jackson, there arr a lot of sites that said that this album sold 100 million copies worldwide, but that's pretty innacurate, you can see in the talk of this album, the consensus to put Thriller as a 60 million copies sold record. Use the talk of the Ricky Martin article, there are a lot of people that agree with me. 88marcus (talk) 08:52, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@88marcus: money is based on sales and actually Forbes doesn't share false data, it is reliable and of course there is sth that they know!! I'm not talking about fans and other websites, I'm talking about a refrence. That is the most important thing! And about the charts and certifications, we do not have any data for many of countries and for many of his newer albums, so when we do not have any data, we use another trustable refrence!! It is clear and doesn't need discussion or examples! آرمین هویدایی (talk) 09:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, you're talknig about your opinion. Not everything that appeared in Internet is true. We have to be accurate in his article, there are much more sites that says he sold 70kk records too. The international acts sold most of his records in USA and Europe, and almost all of this countries have an updated data for albums and singles certifications. This is completely nonsense. Most of his albums didn't even sold 1 million copies worldwide and he has 30kk with certified sales (albums+videos+singles). It's the more accurate to put there. As I said, there are plenty of websites that says 70kk too, even the website of his record company Sony Latin. I'll revert your edition soon.--88marcus (talk) 23:46, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

@88marcus: Ok, so when the refrences are not the same and we cannot rely on them, some are old, some are inflated, some are incomplete and etc. So we should simply remove this sentence & it's really the best choice that we can have. As there wasn't anything about his sales in his article just until a few weeks ago,it seems that it is not necessary. So I'm going to remove it and we can finish the duscussion. I hope you agree. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 06:58, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

You keep saying that the references are too old. The 70 million records sold is already inflated and cover his sales till today. The reference of 70 million records is from 4 years ago. Do you really think that he sold thousands of copies since than, to change his sales to 80 millions or 85 millions?! I'll revert you edition soon. There are many articles from 2018, that say 70 million records worldwide. You seem don't know how charts and sales work. I think you should see sites like Ukmix, and Chartmasters where fans give their datas from reliable sources and don't inflated them.--88marcus (talk) 16:40, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

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@Magiciandude: Ok, thank you for explaining that. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 11:17, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

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@Beastranger: Check article's talk. I've explained about the "awards" part. If you read it, then I will tell about the top of the article. آرمین هویدایی (talk)

@Beastranger: Thanks for your contribution, please check article's talk again. I explained about the first part of the arricle. If you're ok with that, I will edit it. If no, at least I should make it updated. But really those information should not included there. I will try to find more important things such as his record sales and etc. to make it a better scope. آرمین هویدایی (talk)

I see that you split the articles content from the source page to a new page. You have performed a bold split but kindly add Templates to the talk pages of both the pages to indicate the split you have performed to avoid the confusion. Also specify the edits you performed briefly in the edit summary of the article or you may be warned by experienced users when deleting huge amounts without edit summary as specified in Edit summary. Beastranger (talk) 05:12, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

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Barnstar for you!

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		For your improvements on the Latin Pop Airplay, I present you this barnstar! Your edits influenced to improve the other Latin subgenre charts as well! Congrats! Erick (talk) 16:26, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks a lot. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 16:37, 6 February 2020 (UTC)

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Ricky Martin inflated sales

Hi آرمین هویدایی,

Since last year I tried many times to explain to you that 85 million albums sold for Ricky Martin is completely inflated and you keep including that number in his article again. I don't see other way to solve that besides to communicate an administrator for your disruptive edits, see here:

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --88marcus (talk) 03:22, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@88marcus: Thank you for telling this issue to the adminstrators. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 06:11, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

If you are working for Ricky Martin, you need to disclose that. Miniapolis 23:38, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@Miniapolis: I haven't even seen him! I live in Iran. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 03:20, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

I changed for 70 million sold

Ok. I changed for the 70 million sold. I don't understand why you disagree with the 60 million sold and reverted my edition, since you said to Chrisonduras "Ok so let's do that, but please convince Marcus 88. I don't want to discuss anymore and don't want a drama." I thought you agreed with that. And what about the sales of Fiebre did you saw that it was certified platinum (Latin/0,06) as I told you?--88marcus (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@88marcus: First of all thanks... Well I compare him with other latin artists such as Enrique Iglesias. I checked Billboard, and you can see he had 40 million total album sales and 8.8 million albums in the US till 2008: https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1045954/ask-billboard But Ricky had 10.97 album sales in the US in early 2011. https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/473334/ask-billboard-what-the-forget-is-going-on?page=0%2C1 (unfortunately the site has broken now 😐 but I can even send you a screenshot if you want and also can search its phrase: Martin's career US album sales stand at 10,972,000, according to soundscan.) Whatever, I mean his sales at least in the US was more than Enrique Iglesias till 2010. What's happened that he became 100 million records (and you know even his fans tryna tell 180m!) But Ricky is still 60m?!! They were both Latin artists from 90s. Ok Enrique had a better function last decade in total, but the difference is not that much! Probably Enrique's sales are inflated too, but at least achiving 10 million record sales for about 12 years is acceptable. Even for a 90s latin artist. He had sold 60m in last decades. 10 million just for this decade is not too much, I know he's no more as successful as he was in the 90s. But nowadays digital sellings and streams made it easier to sell higher and higher. 10 million records is not much for 2010s decade, even for "a 90s latin artist" Even the song "Livin' la Vida Loca" is still selling a lot and had been in the Latin Pop Digital Song Sales for about 250 weeks. I know they are not too much, but his total career sales in a decade can really be 10 million and I think you can agree with me that it really seems accurate... آرمین هویدایی (talk) 22:44, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

And about Fiebre, it was a million for a few weeks ago that I checked. That's why it was also written in its certifications, but probably RIAA has changed it now. I'm sorry for that, I just said what I remembered from my last visits, but now I checked it and you're right. But even with this situation we both know that Vente Pa' Ca sales are more which is not even certified as Latin Gold for 30k. Less than "No Se Me Quita"? No Se Me Quita didn't even enter the Hot Latin Songs and only peaked 19 on Latin Digital Song Sales Chart for one week. It has a platinum. But Vente Pa' Ca which debuted at No. 1 on Latin Digital Song Sales doesn't even have a gold?! It's obvious that his label didn't pay RIAA. Anyway, I'm going to sleep now. Good night. I'm happy that we arr finally agreed :)♡ آرمین هویدایی (talk) 22:53, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@88marcus: I agree with you, I'm trying to found a source for 60 million claim to Enrique Iglesias but it's not easy to found a new one.

Those are claims of his 40 million sold:

• The offical website 2008 link
• Billboard article from 2007: link
• The independent 2007: link

And his certifications to date around 45 million certified sales: link

As I said I'm trying to found a relieble source for 60 million or even 70 million as long as I get one I'll include in his article.--88marcus (talk) 23:08, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I thought Ricky Martin's sales would be 60 million. The most acceptable range than 50+ or -80/85. Anyway personally I don't will touch that topic and for both 88marcus and آرمین هویدایی about Enrique's sales concern, maybe a Spanish references could help. I found 70 million / + in a range of 2012-2014 sources, or 60 million/+ in a range of 2014-2015 sources. --Chrishonduras (talk) 13:36, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Changed Iglesias sales to 70 million, soon his fans will complain...--88marcus (talk) 21:55, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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I got them from a Mexican newspaper called El Siglo de Torreon. They have an online archive that you can search here. Erick (talk) 13:29, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Thanks a lot آرمین هویدایی (talk) 14:39, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I gave you the wrong link. Here is the correct one. http://h.elsiglodetorreon.com.mx/Default/welcome.asp?skin=ElSiglo&QS=Skin%3DElSiglo%26enter%3Dtrue%26AppName%3D2 Erick (talk) 17:54, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Thank you so much آرمین هویدایی (talk) 05:35, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

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@Diannaa: Hi, I'm sorry but I had copied that content from another Wikipedia article. (Ricky Martin) and as you said in your previous message, I just re-used that and I also mentioned that in my edit summary... Here you can see the section that I copied: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Martin#2003–2006:_Almas_del_Silencio

Anyways I'm so sorry and I didn't mean to violate copyright policies. I just didn't know that part of that article has this issue, as it exists there for years and even before I became a Wikipedia user. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 08:07, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

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@Kyle Peake: Hi, Thank you so much for devoting your time on it. If you found any issues on the article, I will really appreciate it if you tell me to fix it. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 20:17, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

It is very good to see a user posting a message like this as soon as the review has been opened by me and yes, issues have been found indeed and the initial ones have been arisen now! You can start addressing them today if you want even though I have only covered a small part of the article; how're things in Iran though? --K. Peake 21:57, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Thank you. I will start fixing the issues now; Fine, as regular. (:

Very good to know I've never been there so was genuinely interested, glad you're progressing and there will be a further comments wave soon! --K. Peake 07:08, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Nice reworking on the infobox and lead; you only missed the target on Song of the Year, mention of the Spotify promo, also I would further suggesting mention the remix's music video in the lead. --K. Peake 12:30, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Oh, I'm sorry for the mistakes. I will fix them now and start the next sections. And thank you for your suggestion. I will add it. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 15:20, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Excuse me, I don't understand this phrase: "[8] should be after [7] as well as in its current place". Can you please explain? I'm so sorry.

It means that as well as the sentence that ref 8 is currently at the end of, it should also be invoked after ref 7 in the previous sentence – this is because [8] backs up part of that sentence too. --K. Peake 16:51, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: thank you so much. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 17:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Sorry, I had another question. Should I write the peak positions of all of his Top 10s or just write: It peaked in the Top 10 of Argentina, Chile, Costa Rica,...

And if I should write each peak position, do I have to mention that for example "this is Martin's fifth top 10 in the country" or it's not necessary? Because actually there is almost no available data about his classic songs chart performances. (Most of Monitor Latino charts were published between 2016-2018, while there is no data about these countries' former charts. We only have the data for songs "The Cup of Life" and "Vuelve" among his 90s and 2000s hits and even these two songs chart performances are not complete neither.)

No, you do not have to write the exact positions; just put "It also peaked in the top 10 of..." then write out the countries that weren't listed in the previous sentence(s), also I would advise to probably place refs after every comma to avoid them becoming cluttered and you've done a great job so far going through all of my comments; even if taking a while, you are going into detail which is awesome! --K. Peake 21:52, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Ok, thanks. I will add them now; And thank you so much for reviewing this and telling me my mistakes. And please accept my apologies because of too many mistakes. This is my first time that I nominated an article, besides as I'm not a native speaker, I had too many grammer issues. Sorry for that.آرمین هویدایی (talk) 12:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Hi, about "where does it mention the radio release?", as far as I know, Los 40 is one of the main musical radio stations in many Spanish-speaking countries. That's why I used it as a source for radio release. While, if I'm wrong or you suggest me to remove this, I will obey.آرمین هویدایی (talk) 12:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I did not know that since I am not familiar with their radio stations, so now you have explained the issue is no more because it was a misunderstanding. Also, remember to sign your posts off like this --K. Peake 12:25, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

@Kyle Peake: Oh, thanks. Sorry I forgot to do that. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 12:32, 28 February 2021 (UTC)