User talk:آرمین هویدایی/Archive 2

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Helping a bit

Hey there آرمین هویدایی (is there an Anglicized form of this name that I can call you by?). I helped a bit on "Solo Quiero Amarte" and "Tu Recuerdo" by mentioning the salsa versions of these songs. Ricky Martin has recorded more salsa versions and it's a damn shame they haven't been commercially released because they're really good. Also, on "Solo Quiero Amarte", I guess I did what you'd call a "loophole" on WP:USCHARTS, because technically "Solo Quiero Amarte" didn't rank on other Billboard genre charts besides the Latin charts. That, by the way, was the result of a year ago where I compromised adding the Latin subcharts, because I thought it was ridiculous to lump all music in Spanish as the same thing when clearly it isn't. I got the idea from FanDePopLatino when he suggested separating the music charts for the original and Spanish versions. In other Ricky Martin-related news, I'm working on songs that reached #1 on the Latin Pop and Tropical Airplay charts, so my next Ricky Martin articles will be "Vuelve" and "Perdido Sin Ti". Just wanted to give a heads up. Erick (talk) 14:14, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hi Erick! Yes, my name is Armin, you can call me by this name. I think that is a great idea to separate the chart performances for Spanish and English versions of the songs like "Solo Quiero Amarte" and "Nobody Wants to Be Lonely", since they are actually counted as separate songs on charts and are not totally the same. Honestly I haven't heard their salsa versions, I will try to find them on YouTube today. I've just finished working on "María" last night and nominated it for GA review, and started working on "Tu Recuerdo" this morning, but whenever you wanted to start working on "Vuelve" and "Perdido Sin Ti", I would be so happy to get involved and help. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 14:33, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Cool! There's also the salsa versions of "Tal Vez" and "Y Todo Queda en Nada" and a bachata version of "Perdoname". I don't have a source to back this up, but I'm pretty sure that's how "Tal Vez" reached #1 on the Tropical Airplay. In the 2000s and until the mid 2010s, Latin record labels would have their pop artists record different versions to reach a wider audience. That's how I know these songs exists, because they would play in my local tropical radio stations (for reference, I live in the Greater Orlando area in Florida). Erick (talk) 14:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Wow! I did not know about them, thanks for sharing the info. I just listened to the salsa version of "Tu Recuerdo" a few minutes ago and it was really nice, wish they were available on digital platforms as official releases. I will listen to the others you mentioned now. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 15:33, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Hey there, I just finished expanding List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1998, which I will nominate for featured list once I have successfully nominate List of Billboard Tropical Airplay number ones of 1997, so now I am ready to work on "Vuelve". I already have the article set up on my sandbox. Erick (talk) 16:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hi, glad to hear that. I'm currently working on Ricky Martin (1999 album), but I will finish the Singles section within an hour and then I will join you to work on "Vuelve". Thanks for telling me about that. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 17:08, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

I've nominated Vuelve for FAC and mentioned you on a co-nomination. Just heads about FAC, they scrutinize everything on the article. Don't be surprised if it fails the first time. It took me three tries to get Amarte Es un Placer (album) FA. Erick (talk) 14:01, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Wow! Thanks for mentioning me as a co-nominator. I will do my best to fix the issues and I hope it would become a featured article finally. It can be Ricky Martin's first FA and that would be awesome. PS: Have you checked my comments in peer review? Do you suggest me to edit the article per my comments? (Except Brazil certification, which you explained.) آرمین هویدایی (talk) 17:39, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, go ahead, that should be fine. Erick (talk) 19:52, 13 October 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hey! What do you think about adding Ricky Martin (99 album) to Wikiproject Latin music? Since we are regarding it as a Latin album per the sources and it is listed among the best-selling Latin albums? It also had a great impact in "Latin explosion", which I guess can be related to the Latin project. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 09:08, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Right now, the project only focuses on music in Spanish or Portuguese because they are Latin-based languages of Ibero-America whereas English isn't, and since it didn't rank on the Billboard Latin Albums chart, it's not under the project scope. It would require a separate discussion because defining "Latin music" is very hard to define. That's why, as a compromise, I tagged it under the Hispanic and Latino task force because of its cultural significance. Erick (talk) 09:12, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Oh, got it. Thanks for explaining. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 09:15, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Hey Armin, for the FAC review, I'm going to use the non album singles as samples on Vuelve because Wikipedia strongly encourages non-free files to be used only one article. Otherwise we'd have to justify the rationale outside of the singles article. Meanwhile I already found some Creative Common files of Draco Rosa from YouTube. YouTube allows you to search by Creative Commons. Erick (talk) 11:14, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hi. I'm sorry I didn't get it. What do you mean by "non album singles"? How could they be related to the article? I was thinking about adding samples from the album's non-single tracks, specially "Lola, lola". (Because the song is one of Martin's main songs in his tours and is one of his most known non-single tracks in his career). While if there are Creative Common files for Vuelve tracks, that would be great to use. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 11:47, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Sorry that was a brainfart on my end. I meant to say "non single tracks from the album". You also read my mind, because "Lola, Lola", is indeed a sample I uploaded along with "Hagamos el Amor". They both used to represent the ballads and uptempo tracks respectively. Erick (talk) 11:51, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Oh, that's Ok. 😁 Yes I saw your recent edits now. Nice samples! آرمین هویدایی (talk) 11:59, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! I was thinking Aoba's comment and I'll admit I was surprise since this has never occurred to me on a FAC on the reception. One idea I have is for the first paragraph to detail what critics liked about the album and the second paragraph would be about what critics didn't like about it. For example, the first paragraph can start with "The uptempo tracks on Vuelve were met with positive reactions from critics" and the second paragraph can start with "The ballads on the record however, were met with mixed reactions and the number of ballads were criticized" or something like thought? Thoughts on how they should be worded? Erick (talk) 00:52, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hi. Yes once a reviewer told me about it, reviewing "Vente Pa' Ca" here. But let's go for Vuelve... I think we can take a look at Rihanna's Good Girl Gone Bad, which is a FA as an example. I've also checked 1989 (Taylor Swift album) and several others and all of them begin with the fact that the album received generally favorable reviews from music critics / or mixed reviews or etc. Like you already did in Vuelve. That would be a whole point of view. Then we should write the content and as I see in those examples, they don't separately say what exactly "met with positive reactions from critics" or "mixed reactions". I guess the first sentence as a whole point of view is enough, but we should separate the orders of reviews with a more organized theme, like Good Girl Gone Bad, which was also criticized somehow. In Vuelve we have talked about balance between the tracks styles and the whole package, up-tempo tracks, ballads, Martin's vocal and diversity and improvement. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 08:35, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, yeah, I shamelessly copied Rhianna's album reception section on my sandbox. Also bit of a trivia, Rhianna's albums were also done by Tomica (if you didn't already know that), who has since pretty much retired from Wikipedia, so I don't think he'll mind. I did some editing based on my suggestions, but you're free as always to edit the sandbox before I post it on the main article. Erick (talk) 09:33, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Sorry for late responses, I've been busy. Yes I had seen you and Tomica working on several articles together, but I didn't knew he used to work on Rihanna's albums. (She's my second-favorite singer only behind Ricky 😁❤) I will try to help as much as I can, but honestly since I'm not a native speaker, my English grammar is not that good and I think I may just mess up things with my words... (Persian language is my mother tongue) But I will do my best. Also, if you wanted me to look for references and these things I'll be glad to help. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 14:25, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Hey, just wanted to share this video of the Latin Grammy tribute to Ricky when he was Person of the Year in 2006 just in case you plan to work on any other song they covered, plus for entertainment purposes. It's mostly in Spanish, but you can pretty much tell what they're saying. Erick (talk) 00:38, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hi, thanks a lot for sharing the video. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 10:32, 4 November 2021 (UTC)

No prob. Just curious, are you working on "Tal Vez" next? I was eventually going to get there when I reach the year 2003 on the Latin pop/tropical charts. I'm still in 1998 lol. Erick (talk) 17:09, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Yes! I've just finished Background and release section, if you want to join me for the rest of it, I'd be honored and very glad, but if you're busy or focusing on 1998 songs for now, I will do it on my own. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 17:22, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Oh I'm not busy, I can multitask. I just meant I was eventually going to also work on "Tal Vez" when I get to 2003. That song gives me memories of when I was finishing elementary school. I don't mind working on it right now. You listened to the salsa version of the song yet? Erick (talk) 17:25, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Oh, that's great. I guess it is his biggest hit that we have not worked on it yet, so I started working on it. 🙂 Wow! I honestly heard it in 2017 for the first time, I wasn't too familiar with Martin before. (Unfortunately, he's not very popular in my country nowadays.) But it's really a nice song and one of my favorite ballads. Yes, I listened to it the day you told me about it. Anyways, for now we need to find a source for the song's genre. (A big issue for every single ballad!) آرمین هویدایی (talk) 17:48, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Hey do you want to take care of Ricky Martin's certified sales on Draft:List of best-selling Latin music artists? It would just be certified units from online databases (except for Spain). Erick (talk) 23:10, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hi, sure. Actually most of them are listed on Martin's talk page. I will add the newly updated certifications and list the summary here. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 09:01, 12 December 2021 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Here is the list:

US: 14,630,000 Mexico: 4,645,000 UK: 2,925,000 Spain: 2,350,000 France: 2,225,000 Canada: 1,600,000 Japan: 1,300,000 Germany: 1,150,000 Australia: 1,085,000 Argentina: 894,000 Sweden: 455,000 Switzerland: 290,000 Belgium: 250,000 Poland: 250,000 Italy: 150,000 Finland: 140,812 New Zealand: 140,000 Netherlands: 100,000 Denmark: 50,000 Austria: 25,000

Total: 34,655,000

He has also 5 million certified units by IFPI for Europe, which I'm not sure can be added or not... آرمین هویدایی (talk) 09:26, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Recuerdo (song)

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@MarioSoulTruthFan: Hi, I'm sorry. Honestly I am busy these days and I cannot be responsive. If you haven't started the review yet, I wanted to remove all of my GA nominations, including this article's nomination. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 08:17, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

Feel free to remove them, including this one. I have asked someone to close the opening of the GA review. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 10:38, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

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Menudo (group)

Greetings! I think we should try to improve the Menudo (group) article. The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 13:50, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

@The Eloquent Peasant Hi! Honestly I haven't followed the band at all, I have just listened to few songs and only know Ricky Martin and Draco Rosa among the members, but I will help you whenever you want (as much as I can), and you can count on me to find sources if you needed. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 15:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

@آرمین هویدایی@The Eloquent Peasant List of best-selling Latin music artists are being on my sandbox here, feel free to make changes and/or add artists! Armin, I'm sorry, but I forgot to add Ricky Martin certified sales, do you still have them somewhere? Erick (talk) 14:57, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hi, yes I have it. Here you are:

US: 14,630,000 Mexico: 4,715,000 UK: 2,925,000 Spain: 2,350,000 France: 2,225,000 Canada: 1,600,000 Japan: 1,300,000 Germany: 1,150,000 Australia: 1,085,000 Argentina: 894,000 Sweden: 455,000 Switzerland: 290,000 Belgium: 250,000 Poland: 250,000 Italy: 150,000 Finland: 140,812 New Zealand: 140,000 Netherlands: 100,000 Denmark: 50,000 Austria: 25,000

Total: 34,725,000 آرمین هویدایی (talk) 15:25, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

OK. NP. I'll check it out and see if I can improve it! :-) The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 15:39, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

@آرمین هویدایی Added! BTW, I removed the "online certifications only" on best-selling Latin artists and albums embargo, so feel free to add more certifications from elsewhere, especially from LatAm. EDIT; Just one caveat, the source should mention the name of certification body. Erick (talk) 23:30, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1998 for FLC

Hey Armin! I've nominated List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1998 for featured list and using List of Hot Country Singles & Tracks number ones of 1998 as its basis. Would you be interested in reviewing? I figure I'd ask since it does involve Ricky Martin. If you are interested in reviewing, check out Wikipedia:Featured list criteria before doing so. Thanks in advance! Erick (talk) 13:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)

@Magiciandude: Hi Erick! Yes sure. I will review it in a few hours. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 07:20, 25 August 2022 (UTC)

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List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1999

I have nominated List of Billboard Latin Pop Airplay number ones of 1999 for FLC and was wondering if you could leave any comments. Thanks! Erick (talk) 03:45, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

Please update access-dates when updating peaks

As you have not done so multiple times on Beso (song). Thank you. Ss112 10:06, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

@Ss112: Hi, sorry I forgot to do so, I will update access dates as well since then. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 10:58, 11 April 2023 (UTC)