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Hello, I noticed that you had removed the deletion tag from the article Kongad Kuttisankaran. It was nominated for deletion at January 14th 2020 for not being notable. Later the notability was established and the deletion tag was removed. But later when User:Kashmorwiki was found out to be a block evaded Sockpuppet the deletion tag was added for another reason. Sir you had removed the tag for the reason as it had been nominated for deletion once and deletion was declined in regard with your edit summary. Shouldn't the article be deleted as it was created by a Sockpuppet who has had a history of disruptive editing. Perthirvin (talk) 12:04, 11 May 2021 (UTC) Hi. Please don't restore a declined speedy. This article may meet Wikipedia's criteria for speedy deletion as a page created (emphasis mine) does not mean it must be deleted. There are edits by other editors, and it doesn't appear clear from the AfD that the editor was editing in bad faith. You're welcome to take it to AfD for discussion Perthirvin. StarM 15:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC) I am specifying on the article Kongad Kuttisankaran....It has no substantial contributions by other users...please take a look at its edit history.... Thanks for your reply Perthirvin (talk) 15:18, 11 May 2021 (UTC) I personally disagree that it's a clear-cut speedy, but others may disagree. Feel free to take it to AfD Perthirvin. StarM 15:23, 11 May 2021 (UTC) With reference to the edit history.... The only edit made by a user other than the Sockpuppet is John B123...other than that there are no other edits made by other users excluding the addition and removal of the deletion tag by various users.... That is what I'm telling that there are no substantial contributions by other editors other than the Sockpuppet (User:Kashmorwiki) in the article.... Kindly go through the edit history....Thanks Perthirvin (talk) 15:24, 11 May 2021 (UTC) I'll let it stand as I really don't care about the subject matter, but I'm not sure about your note Perthirvin that If not an Admin can decline it. You might want to avoid that comment in the future as it reads like admin shopping. You don't like my (admin) opinion so you're shopping for another one who agrees. Also, I'm not "Sir". StarM 15:39, 11 May 2021 (UTC) Okay thanks for that, I'll take care on that...I'm really sorry if I was being discourteous or rude or if you felt bad... Perthirvin (talk) 15:41, 11 May 2021 (UTC) I didn't take it as rudeness, don't worry. StarM 15:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

You should also look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Perthirvin. I have something to add here. When a user creates an article, it is not owned by the user. It is a page that the user has submitted to this project. Lets keep aside the fact that Kashmorwiki is a sock. What is the point of deleting some well sourced articles if it satisfies all our notability guidlines. I have some good experience with Kashmorwiki. We have worked together to improve several Indian football related articles. He/She has created more tham 95 articles and only one got deleted before he/she was blocked. From my experience, he/she is a good faith editor. No user has opposed this fact. Deleting a page based on the creator of the page rather than the content of the page is totally against the functioning of an encyclopedia since it results in the removal of legitimate content. In his/her talk page, Kashmorwiki said someone is taking revenge on him and I feel the same now after seeing all this.Poppified ^talk 17:56, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for this background/link, Poppified. I don't know Kashmorwiki as well as you do as I don't think we've done more than cross paths on the occasional article. The consensus is far from clear on the user's talk, ANI and that's a part of why like you, I don't think it was a clear speedy. It may or may not be deleted, but deserved the discussion it's now receiving. StarM 18:01, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Lets see whats the outcome of this SPI first.HappyEdittingPoppified ^talk 18:28, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Indeed. I weighed in with some background where I had it. You might want to add a link in one of their Teahouse threads too StarM 18:33, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Now the SPI is closed, let me tell my findings here. It seems somebody is is a mission to delete articles created by Kashmorwiki due to personal issues. Do you have any idea how to put an end to it. I have now copied the sources of all his remaining articles as a backup.ThanksPoppified ^talk 18:47, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

It's sadly a game of whack-a-mole Poppified. I think there are enough eyes on the Kashmorwiki situation that people are watching their creations for any malicious nominations. I also put a note in Perth's Teahouse thread so the editors who weighed in there know that Perth's question wasn't in good faith. StarM 18:54, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

This user placed lot of his/her articles under G5 and unfortunately all of them got deleted. Its really unfair to see this taking place targetting a user out of bad faith. Luckily I have the sources with me. Can I recreate these articles. Or do you have any other suggestions? Thanks Poppified ^talk 18:58, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

(Talk page stalker) Hai Star Mississippi. I am Ken. I'm here to inform you about my concern regarding the future of articles created by Kashmorwiki. The socks of AARYA SAJAYAN are frequently placing CSD tags on the articles created by him. One of them is Bergwalt, who kept CSD tags in many of his articles, and made delete some of the articles under G5 criterion. I agree with the with the fact that the articles created by Kashmorwiki can be deleted under G5 criterion, but I'm against the act of doing the same with well-sourced articles created by him. So far, many of his well-sourced articles have been deleted under the criterion. We are working here preserve the quality of Wikipedia right? Quality articles are always an asset to Wikipedia. I've copied sources of some of the articles created by Kashmorwiki, which was deleted by the frequent tag placement by the sock user. Kerala is an Indian state who loves elephants, and the elephants are a trend among the people of Kerala. Kashmorwiki created articles for many popular and historic elephants in Kerala, which was deleted by admins. So, as I said earlier, I have sources of some of the articles created by Kashmorwiki, which was later deleted. So, is there any offense on me recreating those deleted articles with the sources which was copied by myself? Feel free to make any opinion regarding the issue. Thank you for making use of your valuable time to read this. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 09:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ken Tony since you are an established editor, you're welcome to re-write any articles. The issue is the creator, not one of notability as we saw on the first elephant AfD. Part of why I wanted to keep the one I declined the G5 on is because it's going to be a challenge to re-write since I can't read the Malayam sourcing. If any of the others are primarily Malayam-source based,I'd ping other editors so it's not all on you to read and add to the sourcing. Maybe Poppified who also agrees with you that the content is worth preserving? To be clear, English-language sourcing isn't at all required, it's just that the other texts may not be accessible to non-Indian editors who might want to help rescue the ones in danger of deletion. I saw from Wikipedia:Teahouse#Are_these_articles_eligible_for_deletion that all but one were saved. Perhaps you can ask Doug Weller if there's anything from the deleted one that wasn't written by Kashmor that he could restore for you? I'm currently on my phone and can't do restoration of revisions easily or I'd look into it for you. Hope this helps. StarM 13:53, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

I'll take a look - some crazy socking here, this thread was started by a sock, see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AARYA SAJAYAN/Archive. I've struck through their edits. Doug Weller talk 14:27, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

(Talk page stalker) Star Mississippi Thank you for your feedback. I will follow based up on this. The most saddened scenario was the deletion of the article of Guruvayur Padmanabhan. Its death was covered by some international medias. It was too late for me to copy its source. So I have asked the deleting admin to restore it. Hope this will work. Thank you. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 14:46, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

(Talk page stalker) I don't think there is an other Malayalam editor who have a good knowledge on elephant topics than Kashmorwiki. This also includes me. His sign itself had an elephant emoji. I will try my best to work on these articles. Thank you. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 14:53, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ken Tony: but I'm not sure they are all RS, and the last one is a mystery to me and in any case would need a title and page number. Doug Weller talk 15:10, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

References

@Doug Weller: This of the article of Chengallur Ranganathan, an elephant, who died in 1917. Regarding the reliability, The Hindu is a reliable source. Mathrubhumi is the second-most leading Malayalam news agency. I'm not sure about the third one. The importance of the subject is that, it is the tallest captive Asian elephant to have ever lived, as per records. I think they are enough to make it pass GNG. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 15:28, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

@Ken Tony: sounds like it should be. It's the 3rd and 4th sources I wasn't sure about. Doug Weller talk 15:43, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Ken Tony. Unrelated to this conversation, I own a copy of this book and when I'm back in the same place that it is, happy to also check to see if Chengallur Ranganathan is mentioned as some of the other elephants were. As far as I'm aware, the elephants have all been deleted for sock reasons, none for notability-although a question about that was raised at the Teahouse-so you'd be fine to work on these articles Ken Tony as you noted the sourcing meets our guidelines. I'm really hoping the sock farm trying to knock out Kashmorwiki's creations takes a pause. I do not like this version of whack a mole. StarM 16:42, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Star Mississippi Thank you for the reply buddy. I firmly believe that there should be only friendship among Wikipedians. Spamming was immense on the articles created by Kashmorwiki. I felt like many of them were having grudges whatsoever on Kashmorwiki, and was making use of the current situation to hit back on him. So I felt pity for him, and wanted to help this Wikipedian, as his edits had a good motive. So for a final time, I'm asking once more again. There is no offence in recreate them right? Can I go on to take my next steps? I need a final verdict to go ahead and do something bravely. That's why I'm asking over and over again. Thank you. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 17:45, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ken Tony you're welcome to use the sources Doug IDed as well as any others you're aware of to write the article. Whether you do so in draft or main space is your choice based on your own preferences. StarM 18:49, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Star Mississippi. I will do my best. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 20:31, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

Sports in Albania

I dont like the way you deleted my edits in Sports in Albania the mediterranean olympic games was an big success for the Albanian females it isnt fair to pipe the people down who just want to tell about the history of an successfull nation at sports in Albania. Xonilatifi25 (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Xonilatifi25. You're welcome to re-add the information using reliable sources, which you did not to do when you added the information back, which is whyI removed it. Wikipedia is not a reliable source, nor was the webpage you linked. It is of no relevance whether JohnFromPinckney or I are Albanian or not. StarM 15:10, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

But then also then prove me wrong because i did back now back my sources up. It isnt fair to not accept my opinion but i understand your point and i want to say sorry i overreacted in my opinion. Xonilatifi25 (talk) 15:29, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Can you clarify how https://www-old.cev.eu/Competition-Area/History.aspx?ID=1263 is aXonilatifi25 reliable source? It does not appear to be one to me. Wikipedia does not accept anyone's opinion, which is why sourcing is required, Xonilatifi25 StarM 15:34, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Can you then deny ? That the Albanian women's didn't qualify for the Womens CEV Cup i did put also a anouther reliable source out were it is written, that the womens of Dinamo Tirana achieved those feets. Wikipedia isnt for everyone but for the ones who know the Sporting History of an successful sporting nation in Albania, and thats not you of course not. Xonilatifi25 (talk) 15:38, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

The onus is on the person who adds the information to verify it according to reliable sources. You have not done that as this also does not appear to be a reliable source. As such, I have reverted your edits. Please do not add the information back without using reliable sources as that would be considered an edit war, and you may be blocked. StarM 15:42, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I can't understand why you have so much hate towards an nation instead off helping me you just remove the success an Nation have at sports. But i dont care about your comments you hate Albania thats why you removed it i posted an link were the official CEV Page put an link off the Tournemant in 1990/91 they did qualify and also won the Mediterran Games at Volleyball in 1987 !! Xonilatifi25 (talk) 16:00, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Xonilatifi25, you will find you have much greater success on Wikipedia if you learn and follow the rules here, one of which is to assume good faith. Accusing Star Mississippi of having "so much hate towards an nation" is completely inappropriate. Please see also WP:NPA. StarM's changes, like mine, have absolutely nothing to do with love or hatred of Albania or any other nation; we're just trying to protect Wikipedia articles from randon, unverifiable additions. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 17:13, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Then tell me why do you keep removing my posts even with an reliable source that dosent make sense the Albanian womens did won off the biggest Olympic competition gold in the Medirerrean games in 1987 so you should also account a bit and not just remove things. Xonilatifi25 (talk) 18:53, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Xonilatifi25 as JohnFromPinckney and I have mentioned, the onus is on you to prove the information you're adding by using reliable sources. If you're going to be a successful wikipedia editor, I really recommend reading up on reliable sources. StarM 18:57, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

JohnFromPinckney i want to say sorry for my behavior you are right at the end people can talk all the time, so i need to also put evidence on the things i post in Wikipedia so that everybody can understand that , i really like to say thank you because it also helps me to be an much better autor ✍🏻 and content creator in Wikipedia. You are absolutely right. And i like the discussion with you because at the end we all want a better Wikipedia aswell. But dont get me wrong their is still to less information on Sports in Albania. Especially Basketball and in Football we should post more information but i will do it to by posting realiable sourches in their. Xonilatifi25 (talk) 07:55, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

That's great, Xonilatifi25 as that's the best way to improve content in any subject area. StarM 13:09, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

The Albanian under 21 Qualified can i not even mentioned sorry but now you kinda wind me up serbs posting things they didnt won as country but with yugoslavia and you still gonna dont believe me, Albania did qualify once in their Under 21 History.... Xonilatifi25 (talk) 08:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

If you use reliable sources, it doesn't matter whether I or anyone else believe you, Xonilatifi25. The sources will make it clear. StarM 13:18, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

DS links

Hi, StarM. First, thanks, and second, I hadn't even thought of DS (just what a time-sink some efforts are). But having seen the recent notice, I'm wondering: how's a person supposed to know when DS might apply, if nobody places a notice (and the talk pages of the affected articles [heh, broadly construed] aren't explicitly tagged)? I've just had a quickish scan through the pages linked in the formal notice, and only at the bottom of WP:ACDS do I finally find what I was looking for: WP:DSTOPICS. Do you think this should maybe be included in the notice? (Or is it, and I haven't found it?) Best, — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 16:43, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi JohnFromPinckney. DS alerts are a new-ish area to me as well. I generally only consider it when it seems the editor is going to be an issue and we'll need to prove awareness if problematic editing persists. I may well be wrong, but hearing the word "truth" from a new user especially combined with his jumping to accuse both of us of racism when we were just asking for sources is red flag territory. It took me forever to find the correct template, so wholly agree it could be better surfaced. Perhaps at Wikipedia_talk:General_sanctions? StarM 18:24, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

Sport in Albania

I think their is important room to improve the Sports in Albania , since in my Opinion do not have many editions added. Balkan Basketball Championships needed to be added. I was reacting really hard i agree but you also did an mistake by deleting many off my comments i did. Albania have an amazing theirfor should be more known to it. And why can i not mention so many sport departing topics their to?

We need a topic for Albania at the Mediterranean games since we won in many important sport disciplines like Basketball, Volleyball with our womens too. I dont wanna get blocked so i just appell for also agreeing with me i never would just put them randomly here they are our history too. Xonilatifi25 (talk) 00:55, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

I didn't delete any of your comments, but rather unsourced information. You refuse to learn or listen, and I have no interest in further discussion with you if you're going to continue to repeat the same edits. The place to discuss improvements is the article's talk page. And please heed the warnings on your own Xonilatifi25 StarM 17:53, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Instead of helping me you showed what you wanna tell but i will write my own text with sources towards the Albanian National Team and many other Sporting topics , i dont wanna discuss with you since you only delete and even with facts you delete them , you showed your caracter i will be on wikipedia forever no worries i can have my say as i deserve too.. I refused to learn hahahah thats a good joke by itself i can say that to you!! Who cant accept facts and try to make a sporting page small!! Xonilatifi25 (talk) 23:26, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Feel free, I'm not watching the page and have no interest in your edits. But if you don't learn to use reliable sources, other editors will remove the content as well. Happy editing. StarM 01:00, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

User:86.64.17.253

This user is adding BenQ dub casting using unsourced content and I tell them not to do BenQ unsourced references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HoanganhLe1234567890 (talk • contribs)

Thanks HoanganhLe1234567890. Daniel_Case got to it before I saw your note. Daniel, there's some history at User_talk:Star_Mississippi/Archive_3#User:84.68.93.179, but I'm guessing it's just a dynamic IP and escalating blocks wouldn't be helpful. StarM 18:44, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

A rangeblock would be, if we could calculate the range. Daniel Case (talk) 01:15, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks Daniel_Case. Those are beyond my scope unfortunately. Star Mississippi 02:06, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

TPS: Help with my sig?

Hi! Changed my sig for the first time in eons as I was missing pings due to the difference between my display and account names, but what I'd really like is for it to be multi-target. User and Talk. Does anyone know how to modify the below to do that? Thanks! Star Mississippi 01:01, 25 May 2021 (UTC) [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<b style="font-family: Calibri; color: #a117f2;">Star</b> <b style="font-family: Calibri; color: #df00fe;">Mississippi</b>]]

Hi, Star. What do you want linked to talk? "Mississippi"? — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 16:48, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes please, JohnFromPinckney. Someone set up my original one years ago, but I lost it when I had to edit it for format errors it was throwing. THank you. Star Mississippi 16:50, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Testing; please wait...

Okay, throw this into your sig: <span style="font-family:Calibri; font-weight:bold;">[[User:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#a117f2;">Star</span>]] [[User talk:Star Mississippi|<span style="color:#df00fe;">Mississippi</span>]]</span> (without any nowiki and code tags), and make sure you check the "Treat the above as wiki markup" checkbox. Save and see if it looks the way you want. — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 17:30, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

It looks perfect, thanks again JohnFromPinckney and thanks for the specific instructions. Star Mississippi 18:08, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Request

I am making a strange request: I am asking you to block me until 14 June (with the exception of my userspace and my own user talk). My Wikipedependence prevents me from studying properly for the exam. This block could be useful to reduce distractions and avoid a failure in the exam. Dr Salvus 22:18, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi Dr_Salvus. I'm not familiar with how to implement partial blocks like that and wouldn't want to mess it up. If you don't know any other admins, I'd suggest asking at the Help Desk or Teahouse. Star Mississippi 22:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)

Need an urgent help

Hey Star Mississippi. I hope you remember me. I was here before regarding the case of Kashmorwiki's articles. I need an urgent help. One user named Balu Korde is constantly using vulgar language against me because of reverting his/her's uncited inclusion to the article of Ahilyadevi Holkar. It was in the pending changes list. Can you take necessary action against that user. Here is the conversation. Thank you. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 16:34, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Apologies for the delay, Ken Tony, I was offline. I have warned the user. Please let me know if he continues. You may also want to find an admin who is active at hours when you are due to the time difference where I am. Star Mississippi 19:06, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your action. Buddy I need one more help. I'm being suspected as a sock of Kashmorwiki for recreating some of the articles created by him, which were recreated by myself after asking your permission. You know everything right? Will you please come and help me sort this thing out. The SPI is here. I really am innocent, and my edit log proves that I'm not Kashmorwiki. Thank you. Hope you'll act. Ken Tony ^{Shall we discuss?} 19:23, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

I weighed in, thanks for the ping. Star Mississippi 20:03, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

User:84.68.10.246

They messed up these TV Shows and Movies and I told them not to cite any poorly unsourced references of voice actors of BenQ and Fujitsu cast. - HoanganhLe1234567890