User talk:Star Mississippi/Archives/2009/February

You have a good sense of humor

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		I saw what you wrote on Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC (for February 2009 meetup)! LOL! It made me laugh a lot. NHRHS2010 |  Talk to me  23:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I decided I had to have some fun with it. THanks for the star StarM 03:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Uh oh

Torre lives part time in Hawaii, he just put out a book bashing the team you love, and you're now going to Hawaii. I'm not Sherlock Holmes, but the circumstances look very suspicious :-) Enjoy! --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 05:03, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL, I didn't tell you what I thought of last week's interview? I missed Letterman but Larry King was great and I'll always love Joe. I tried to get the book today and couldn't find it :( Back next week, enjoy your new-old hurler in the mean time. Ollie's Follie indeed. StarM 06:24, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, my reaction to the signing was "whatever". Btw, you can hear his radio interview with pompous fatso here (link is at the lefthand side. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Ooh thanks, heard about that appearance too late and missed him at Borders despite it being near my office. Will look for book at the airport. StarM 14:05, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Special Barnstar

		The Special Barnstar
		I am honored to award you this Special Barnstar for your input at the AfD for Naked Conversation and being willing and able to do a search and speak up in defense of a notable book. Such due diligence improves Wiki Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:19, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Art at the New-York Historical Society

Our meetup at the museum is this Friday, February 13 from 6:00-8:00 pm. See Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC#Friday evening at the New-York Historical Society to sign up. Thanks!--Pharos (talk) 01:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Hunter & Williams

it reads like spam to me, too, so I wouldn't necessarily blame the tagger for this one, lot's of unsourced puffy claims. However, I've restored, and I'll walk away if you think it should stand jimfbleak (talk) 08:06, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Objections against deletion of page "Thread Hijacking"

Hello,

I guess, this is the right way to contact you and hope that top posting is appropriate on a Talk page. I just found you haveing deleted the page titled "Thread Hijacking" one month ago. Actually, it was deleted twice. The first time, a reason was given "no reliable sources", which is a pitty and I guess I could add them if the article were reinstated. However when you deleted the article, the only comment was "iserfication" which in turn seems to be a non-existent word neither to be found in Oxfords dictionary, the American Heritage dictionary, inside Wikipedia, on Google or just about anywhere. So I cant object to your reasons for doing so, because I just dont understand.

Instead, I am going to tell why I think, it was a bad idea to remove the article. This page is very useful to point novice mailing list users to explain a contemporary extension of the original Netiquette rules to them. "thread hijacking" is the commonly used term to describe the inappropriate reuse of an existing thread for a new topic by answering to the thread and changing the subject at the same time or even worse, talking about a different issue without changing the subject.

A page on thread hijacking can be found in either the german and the french edition of Wikipedia which might be a bit too idiosyncratic to count as a reason for you. Deleting the page also breaks the english Wikipedia because it is referenced from the article "Hijacking" which is more severe I guess. The term is known to the Urban Dictionary as well as Nation Master and it is commonly used on the Usenet.

Yes it is a relatively new term as the subject implies and Wikipedia has to face a situation, where it becomes the primary source of explanation for new terms, thus making it hard to provide several reliable references. The project should be aware of this new role that it takes as the largest Encyclopedia on the web. Articles on such new terms should not be arbitrarily removed but be considered upon their general utility and credibility I guess.

At least, you should point to an alternative term instead of just deleting the article. It might well be that germans as non native speakers create an english word that they believe to be easily understood everywhere, just as they did with the funny term "Handy" for "mobile phone", but the french article points into a different direction in this case. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cvoelker (talk • contribs) 12:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi CV, and thanks for the note. The article was deleted following a deletion discussion, which can be found here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thread hijacking. PLease note that presence, or lack thereof, of an article on other language wikis is not a reason for an article to exist on the English Wikipedia. Further Nation Master is a mirror of Wikipedia and neither it nor Urban Dictionary are reliable sources. Therefore, I'm not going to overturn my close of the AfD, but you're more than welcome to bring it up to deletion review if you think I'm incorrect. Thanks StarM 01:55, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

The Deletion of BearPodcast

HAIKU FORM OF THIS TALK

BearPodcast missing
significance in question
awaiting reponse

Hello,

I'm writing to you in regards to the deletion of BearPodcast. My Wikipedia entry was deleted for the reason below.

‎(A7: No indication that the article may meet guidelines for inclusion: A7: Article about an eligible subject, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)

I don't quite understand this reason code. Does it mean I have to include a reason as to why BearPodcast is an important entry? If so, BearPodcast's significance, impact, and contributions to the bear community are mentioned in a published paper magazine (A Bear's Life - Fall 2008 Issue - Page 15).

If it's for another reason, could you please explain it to me or tell me what it needs before it becomes accepted. Thank you for your time and consideration in this entry.

Sincerely,

MrJeffreyGee (talk) 06:08, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for your note and great haiku. I have userfied the article for you and you can find it here: User:MrJeffreyGee/BearPodcast. With regard to what needs to be done to establish notability, please read WP:WEB which explains, in part, what websites (podcasts included) need in order to be considered notable. Happy to help if you have any other questions. StarM 06:19, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

HAIKU FORM OF THIS TALK

BearPodcast renewed
questioning on approval
hoping carefully

Hello,

I would like to thank you for userfiy-ing my article earlier this week and I have updated BearPodcast since then. I have added several references and citations (1 of them being a newspaper article, another is a report by a radio station, and also a magazine article). I was wondering if you could please give me an update right now as to whether it qualifies approval and if not, what else does it need or where do I go from here?

Thank you for your time and consideration in this article.

Sincerely,

MrJeffreyGee (talk) 09:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

P.S. I didn't know how to reply to a User talk on here, so I apologize for adding another entry on your talk page.

Thanks for your note, I'm still not clear that this meets the guidelines, but I'm willing to list at deletion review for others' input. You can find it [[1]], please feel free to comment there and thanks for your good work on it. StarM 13:22, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Above the Limit

You may wish to withdraw this one. The stub is well worth expanding as the film is of historical significance: [2]. Found it under it's US copyright title. Happy to do more research. I know that finding nothing with its IMDB title will result in a slurry of deletes from those not looking in depth. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:21, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps I'm missing something, but I'm not sure how that shows it's historically significant or notable. I'm not denying its existence, but I'm not sure a 109 year old short is necessarily notable. Can you clarify? If I'm missing something, I'm happy to reconsider. Thanks StarM 03:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Still digging, but I immediately thought of WP:GNG: "The film was selected for preservation in a national archive", and also "The film represents a unique accomplishment in cinema, is a milestone in the development of film art". I have the greatest sense that this can be easily shown... and am on it now. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 04:16, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your grascious withdrawal. The article needs more, and I will continue to search out to see if/where it may be mentioned or used in courses on film history. I did just apply for a DYK for the film. Best always, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 19:49, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Do you know anything about Twinkle?

Where would I find the tabs introduced by Twinkle? I use the "modern" skin and enabled Twinkle using Preferences » Gadgets (after having earlier added it to my monobook.js and then blanking the monobook.js when I realized I was not using Monobook). Bwrs (talk) 00:17, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Um, in FF 3 on my Mac they're across the top to the right of unwatch, but I don't know if that differs by skin. I'd suggest WP:TWINKLE if you need more info since I'm not sure how it differs by OS, installation, skin, etc. StarM 03:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Seems to work now. Or maybe it was the browser. I don't know. Anyway, am testing it on the sandbox and my own user space. Bwrs (talk) 03:43, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

yeah it's buggy at times. I've seen tabs come and go. Feel free to test on my page and twinkle revert as needed. I used to use it more when I worked in the backlog -- but less so now. StarM 03:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I have decided I really don't need it, but I still am curious: is there a way to "non-destructively" test the RPP and ARV functions? Bwrs (talk) 04:56, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

If I were you, I'd report User:Example to AIV and say in the reason that you are testing Twinkle. Then revert yourself. Probably the same idea would work for RPP. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 05:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, one of the amusing edit summaries I saw post RfA were the block and unblock. JD, was it yours or Xeno's that had something along the lines of "divided by zero" and the unblock was "promises not to perfrom illegal math functions" or something. BW, all I ever use it for is AfDs, etc. I used to use it to tag a mess of socks, but I'm not sure how that wroks with the new system. StarM 04:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL! That was Xeno. I couldn't come up with anything really good... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 04:27, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Knew it was one of you two -- because we all went through about the same time. It was good for laughs. BW, I think this was the best "warning" you gave me. If you know my sense of humour, it fits perfectly. StarM 04:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

[undent] Seems that my ability to Twinkle-rollback has been removed suddenly. Doesn't affect my ability to do other stuff in Twinkle, nor my ability to use regular rollback. Bwrs (talk) 05:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Not you, TWINKLE broken again. It randomly works and doesn't work. Something going on, it will show up again eventually. No rhyme or reason to it. StarM 05:41, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Is more trouble than it's worth. Tempts you to make test edits that inconvenience others, then doesn't work when you really need it. Bwrs (talk) 06:00, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Working again now, at least for me. StarM 01:57, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Smile!

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thanks --- I'll put the smile over my head to catch the rain StarM 20:47, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Looks like I stepped in it!

Exciting times! Am I the only who thinks it's ironic for someone to delete "secret pages" on the basis that they don't serve an encyclopedic purpose while having a "don't be a whiny bitch" page in their userspace? Also, isn't it a bit redundant to existing policy pages and a bit nasty? Not looking for even more trouble, but I am curious about your keep (and those of others). I guess I'm out of touch or something.

Long time no see, I hope you've been well. I keep thinking winter is about over, and then it gets cold again. Soon I'll be complaining its too hot. I guess you know what that make me...? Is this an unencyclopedic discussion now?

Just so you know, I haven't just been fooling around, I've also been making important contributions like dutch oven (prank).

Nice to chat at you again. Take care. ChildofMidnight (talk) 05:48, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi there. I can see why you wanted it deleted, but given it was the third MfD and second this month - I just didn't see where we were going to get with it. To be fair, I did say when I declined a speedy last night (not yours, it was before yours) to take it to AfD because there's no way in hell it was going to be uncontroversial and didn't need to go to DRV. In the end, MZ decided to delete for decent reasons. Is it in the best of taste? No. Is it all that much worse than WP:DICK, etc.? I rreally don't think so. I just think bitch has worst connotations in American English. Re: your point about the cross namespace re-directs, I think they *may* have stemmed from when it was in WP space, but I could be wrong about that.

Oh and on the weather -- ditto. Just got back from Hawaii. Can't deal with this NY cold and wind. Not fair :) Always nice to hear from you StarM 13:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for the response. Generally, I think giving user space a high degree of deference is probably wise. Three deletion discussions in a month is pretty bad. I should have investigated the history more. Oops. It's almost fish slap worthy, gulp. I wonder if I'm on some kind of "list" now. :O Cheers. Thanks again for your reply. Stay warm. ChildofMidnight (talk) 16:44, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Nah without knowing the history you might not have seen it. I just knew because I'd declined several speedies and it seemed to be a game (not you) of "let's see which admin will delete this/" Either way there was going to be drama. I guess it all worked out in the end, for the moment anyway. Not on any list, but you can have a goldfish (cracker) if you'd like ;) StarM 02:24, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Revivals

Uncencylopediac discussion - bah what a lot of rot.

Well hello dere again Im thinkin iv trying to resurrect the WP Tourism (I have dreams for near dead WP Oceans, as well as a long projected WP Death and Dying i promised a mate who kept creating vast amounts of cats for the subject) - it looks like most of the eds listed there (WP TOurism) are gone or long since passed ;) - any words of suggestive support or detractive evidence against such a venture? (it seems a lot of projects are like the economy - dead in tracks) any way now you are in new name and admin role - does it seem it worth it? SatuSuro 12:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

You mean apart from the essays someone has posted to the tourism talk? :) I'm up for it and happy to help. I've had very limited on wiki time of late for writing, which I dearly miss. I'm glad to have a job in this economy, but I wish it didn't take 50-60 hours some times :) I think one of the issues with the tourism project was scope -- I think workforces may help but until we get to that point, we need people who are interested to chip in. I need to think on some ways to do it. WP:MUSEUMS got a boost from my RfA, so Idon't know about its natural, organic growth. I'll think on it and get back to you, but I think we can do it. StarM 13:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Big problem is from the WP Aus and WP Indonesia I am a cat tagging trajic - and i keep seeing projects that have absolutley no idea that if they actually tagged the arts and the cats - (1) they are possibly gonna get eds interested instead of the myriad red link discussion pages at the top - (i have developed a suspicion of any project that dosnt now) (2) the assessment setup and thingies are sometimes also enough to get some interested if they see that the project has actually got its act together to even keep its cat and assesment stuff in order and managed - its a long shot but... SatuSuro 13:17, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I'll have to think on it. I had some bot help for cats, but assessment is something that baffles me -- too many turf wars on assessments per peojects. I'm willing to give it some thought at the weekend and see what I can come up with StarM 02:25, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Vacation

thanks! Heh, I'll try. :) Of course, I'll sorely miss the snow! –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 04:38, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Hah, well said. and year, it's pretty sad that four-letter word is a bluelink... –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 04:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC)