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"people with autism" / "autistic people"

Changed "people with autism" to "autistic people" because the majority of autistic people prefer this terminology

What is your source for this claim? --Calton | Talk 08:16, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

@Calton: Actual study: https://altogetherautism.org.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/2015-Kenny-terms-to-describe-autism.pdf (I'm looking specifically at how autistic people, in general, prefer autistic to people with autism-- I don't think it's important what non-autistic people think about that.) Article by an autistic person explaining why: https://autisticadvocacy.org/about-asan/identity-first-language/ Queenofconfusion (talk) 06:35, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

I'm not seeing anything in that paper making such a specific claim. Please point me to the specific page and passage that says that a majority prefers "autistic people" over "people with autism". --Calton | Talk 10:00, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Again, I'm not seeing anything in that paper making such a specific claim. Please point me to the specific page and passage that says that a majority prefers "autistic people" over "people with autism". --Calton | Talk 01:15, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Using solely the cited paper, I believe the "page and passage" that best demonstrates what you're asking would be Page 4, specifically Figure 3.

(While Queenofconfusion did middle it a bit, it's worth noting an error: the argument wasn't "autistic people" over "people with autism," it was preference for "autistic" over "people with autism.")

Obviously this calls for a little bit of latitude, but going by what is provided in Figure 3 about a singular choice and using solely responses from autistic people (n=502), this resulted in a roughly 54% preference for either "has autism," "on the autism spectrum," or (most of all) "autistic."

If estimates are to be trusted, roughly 1% of the global population is autistic; when the story was published in 2015, that would mean around 74 million people globally. Using the autistic sample of 502 autistics with a 95% confidence interval, their responses represent a margin of error just under 5%. (The latitude I asked for is over trickling matters like how some countries don't believe autism is real, regions where any display of mental illness is demonized or derided, etc. . . y'know, things of that nature.)

Given the statistics and how "autistic" is the predominant choice while "person with autism" ranks fifth out of eight choices, I'd say that qualifies as the majority choosing identity-first over person-first language. Actibus.consequatur (talk) 02:23, 29 June 2021 (UTC)