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{{discussion top|result=The result of this discussion was to '''move''' ([[WP:SNOW]]). <span style="background-color:indigo; color:indigo;">_</span>[[User:MB190417|<span style="background-color:indigo; color:yellow;">MB190417</span>]]<span style="background-color:indigo; color:indigo;">_</span> ([[User talk:MB190417|talk]]) 16:53, 19 January 2023 (UTC)}} |
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[[:María Branyas]] → {{no redirect|Maria Branyas}} – This is a Catalan name. Thus, it should be spelled with Catalan orthography, since it is the native name. The acute accent is suitable in Spanish, but not in Catalan. It's used by many reliable English-language sources, such as [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52641659 the BBC], [https://www.npr.org/2023/01/18/1149748001/world-oldest-person-sister-andre-lucile-randon-france-nun National Public Radio], [https://www.forbes.com/sites/sofialottopersio/2020/05/12/spains-oldest-woman-aged-113-has-survived-coronavirus/ Forbes], [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-spain-maria-branyas-113-years-old-recovers/ CBS News], and [https://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/catalonias-maria-branyas-becomes-oldest-living-person-on-earth-at-115 Catalan News]. -- [[User:Brunnaiz|Brunnaiz]] ([[User talk:Brunnaiz|talk]]) 18:06, 18 January 2023 (UTC) |
[[:María Branyas]] → {{no redirect|Maria Branyas}} – This is a Catalan name. Thus, it should be spelled with Catalan orthography, since it is the native name. The acute accent is suitable in Spanish, but not in Catalan. It's used by many reliable English-language sources, such as [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52641659 the BBC], [https://www.npr.org/2023/01/18/1149748001/world-oldest-person-sister-andre-lucile-randon-france-nun National Public Radio], [https://www.forbes.com/sites/sofialottopersio/2020/05/12/spains-oldest-woman-aged-113-has-survived-coronavirus/ Forbes], [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-spain-maria-branyas-113-years-old-recovers/ CBS News], and [https://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/catalonias-maria-branyas-becomes-oldest-living-person-on-earth-at-115 Catalan News]. -- [[User:Brunnaiz|Brunnaiz]] ([[User talk:Brunnaiz|talk]]) 18:06, 18 January 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''', obvious decision and probably worth a speedy close. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans">[[User:Chessrat|<span style="color:#C90">Chessrat</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Chessrat|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]], [[Special:Contribs/Chessrat|<span style="color:#f78">contributions</span>]]) </sup></span> 15:53, 19 January 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Support''', obvious decision and probably worth a speedy close. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans">[[User:Chessrat|<span style="color:#C90">Chessrat</span>]] <sup>([[User talk:Chessrat|<span style="color:green">talk</span>]], [[Special:Contribs/Chessrat|<span style="color:#f78">contributions</span>]]) </sup></span> 15:53, 19 January 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' as per nom. Can someone with page mover rights move this, as it's clearly [[WP:SNOW]]ing. [[User:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b>]][[User talk:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#000000">2302</b>]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302|talk]]) 16:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Support''' as per nom. Can someone with page mover rights move this, as it's clearly [[WP:SNOW]]ing. [[User:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b>]][[User talk:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#000000">2302</b>]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302|talk]]) 16:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Sources discrepancy == |
== Sources discrepancy == |
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This article, while mostly covering Rendon's death, does include some info that could be use in a early life section for María Branyas: https://www.catalannews.com/society-science/item/catalonias-maria-branyas-becomes-oldest-living-person-on-earth-at-115 TheCorriynial (talk) 01:25, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Requested move 18 January 2023
- The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
- The result of this discussion was to move (WP:SNOW). _MB190417_ (talk) 16:53, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
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María Branyas → Maria Branyas – This is a Catalan name. Thus, it should be spelled with Catalan orthography, since it is the native name. The acute accent is suitable in Spanish, but not in Catalan. It's used by many reliable English-language sources, such as the BBC, National Public Radio, Forbes, CBS News, and Catalan News. -- Brunnaiz (talk) 18:06, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support English Wikipedia seems to be the only major Wikipedia using
María
in the article name. (see the list of Wikipedias on the Wikidata item for her). Even the Spanish version is es:Maria Branyas Morera. I think WP:COMMONNAME applies here. Peaceray (talk) 19:12, 18 January 2023 (UTC) - Support. The accented i can be difficult to type without special knowledge, just like curly quotation marks. Georgia guy (talk) 19:16, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Really, the name Maria should not have accent, because is the correct spelling in Catalan, which is the language of this person. --Amadalvarez (talk) 20:40, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Rarely is í used in Catalan. Stephen"Zap" (talk) 21:15, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Per above; without the accent is the correct native spelling.Wiki O'Ryan (talk) 23:20, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support --Ayuta Tonomura (talk) 03:45, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support Sorry, this was my doing when I created the page a few weeks ago. I agree, it should be reverted back to the easier to type “Maria.” Daedal45 (talk) 04:04, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for creating this! Peaceray (talk) 04:51, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 05:34, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support, obvious decision and probably worth a speedy close. Chessrat (talk, contributions) 15:53, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
- Support as per nom. Can someone with page mover rights move this, as it's clearly WP:SNOWing. Joseph2302 (talk) 16:06, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
Sources discrepancy
Just to share a note of discrepancy in sources: one source we already cite says that Branyas and her husband fled Spain during the Civil War (separately) with their two children. I can't find any other sources that make reference to this event, and I'm suspicious that the same source says that they worked on the Republican side while we have two sources that say Moret worked in a Nationalist field hospital and had Nationalist sympathies (on top of him leading a Francoist health organisation). But if anyone who can read Catalan or Spanish better than I can wants to confirm/find more sources, please do! _MB190417_ (talk) 12:45, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
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