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:Several reasons. The fact that it's an estimate is reason enough to be dismissive of it. To reliably report data, we want it to be conclusive, not guessimates that might shift up or down wildly. To get a better idea of what else is the problem, have a read about their [http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=18919 methodology]. <font color="55c9ea">Chan Yin Keen</font> | <small><sup>[[User:Chan Yin Keen|U]]</sup>[[User talk:Chan Yin Keen|T]]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Chan Yin Keen|C]]</sub></small> 12:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)


== Playstation 3 article updates ==
== Playstation 3 article updates ==

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Rip Itunes DRM files to the HDD

I haven't put this in the article yet but, if you hook up an Ipod (via USB) to the PS3 you can rip Itunes DRM protected files. All you do is go to the Music section of the XMB, then select the Ipod from the list of removable media (i.e. memory cards, usb flash drives), hit Triangle and select view all. You will then see a folder named Itunes or Music I cant remember, then dig around and you will see your Ipod's Itunes DRM library. You must have ACC playback enabled in the system settings to play the files. Unfortunately when your viewing the files, the artist and the track name are gone. The music folders and songs themselves look like someone mashed a keyboard (i.e. "hdwqv" would be the name of an music file). Check it out, I have a bunch of songs on my PS3 HDD. The PS3 cant play the Ipod though, but who cares when you can rip DRM files. DevonTheDude (talk) 06:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)DevonTheDudeDevonTheDude (talk) 06:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I cant see how its relevant. And discussion pages work from the bottom up, not down. john.n-irl (talk) 19:22, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I mentioned it b/c software to unlock DRM Itunes files is very scarce, even on PC. Just glad to know the PS3 can do it with out any additional software / hacks. It's a great way to put music on your PS3, epically if you use Itunes /Ipod.

There's a gazillion programs which can get your itunes off an Ipod. Try Comparison_of_iPod_managers or floola for a multi platform program which does this. Furrycushion (talk) 08:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are the programs legal and do they come pre-installed on the computer? The PS3 rips DRM Itunes files right out of the box, no 3rd party software required. A great feature since more games are including custom soundtracks and someday (Summer 08' according to SCE) In-game XMB music. http://n4g.com/ps3/News-118249.aspx DevonTheDude (talk) 23:52, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a lawyer but it all might depend on whether you live in the US or a country with more freedoms, like China. However 30 of them on the link I gave are free. Furrycushion (talk) 13:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
If the PS3 does what devonthedude describes, it would seem a pretty clear violation of the dmca. Perhaps its better to not include it :)
Wageslave (talk) 06:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thats what I figured but the PS3 has been out for 1.5 years and still no lawsuit, I figured that people would want to know especially with in-game xmb coming soon. DevonTheDude (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:37, 22 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

80 GB still available?

In the retail configurations table, it says that the 80 GB model is still in production. I don't think it is available anymore, and won't be until June, when the new version comes out. Can anyone confirm this? —Wikiperson0202 (talk) 19:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked a sales person at Best Buy, and that's what they said too. No retail stores carry it at the moment[, until June]. Just Gamestop (Refurbished only.) I even went to wal-mart in person to check it out (both regular and superstores.) there's also this source: http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/24/best-buy-quitting-the-80gb-ps3/ as well. 71.90.128.212 (talk) 20:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The 80GB PS3s (Refurbished) have been removed from the gamestop website by the way. 68.190.115.253 (talk) 16:52, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
While this may or may not be actual "proof", this will hopefully be enough evidence that the 80GB PS3 is still in production. MastrCake (talk) 21:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is this true? I went to my local wal-mart yesterday and they told me that they have no plans to restock, all they had was the 40 Gig. I thought it was just that one store seeing as how it's located in a really small town. But then I went to walmart.com and I couldn't find one there either. Is it just walmart or is everyone only stocking the 40 Gig?Zabbethx (talk) 12:09, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gamestop said they removed the 80 GB PS3s from their website (refurbished ones only anyway) because they heard Sony saying they have no plans to resume production of the 80 GBs. 68.190.115.253 (talk) 15:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The 80G come out on the 12 of June. The 80G will have MGS4 and a controler. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Celman (talk • contribs) 03:22, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I meant separately. 68.190.115.253 (talk) 04:50, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Japanese Games

Does anyone know if Japanese games, mainly from PS2, can be played on the PS3 without having to buy any additional components? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.117.190 (talk) 01:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, they can't. PS2 games aren't regionless (nor are PSX/One Games), the hardware for the PS2 included isn't regionless either (same goes for the software emulation.) Note, to even play PS2 games, you need an 80, 20, 60 GB version. 71.90.128.212 (talk) 05:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

lacks IPTV subsection in "software" section!

i've created the MegaTV (Korea) stub. :) PlayTV will be available soon anyway. Cliché Online (talk) 17:58, 28 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS2 Compatibility

I notice that in the "Retail configurations" section, the 40GB model is listed without PS2 compatibility, but the caption below says that "All models include: ... PlayStation backward compatibility through software emulation". Is this a mistake? Does the caption mean PS1 compatibility? I don't own this console so I cannot confirm and update myself, but it would be nice to make this more clear. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.82.242.132 (talk) 10:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems pretty clear to me... PlayStation == Playstation != PlayStation 2... I dont know how you can make this clearer... --Vylen (talk) 12:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All PS3s have Playstation backwards compatibility, but not all have Playstation 2 backwards compatibility. So yes, the caption is with regards to PS1 backwards compatibility. Chan Yin Keen | Talk 12:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The 80G PS3 will all most play all PS1 and PS2 games.

There aren't any availible anymore on gamestop's website. Best place to go is eBay and look for them then. Gamestop pulled them due to Sony telling them that they are no longer in production =/ 68.190.115.253 (talk) 04:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should say PS1, Playstation 1, or PSOne instead, since Playstation is usually refered to the whole Playstation gaming industry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.35.121 (talk) 00:42, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If anything, it should be named Playstation Experimental (PSX) even though it could be confused with the PSX DVR. 66.168.19.135 (talk) 16:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, it should say PSONe, he is right. It isnt a matter of extreme semantics anal retentiveness, its just a question of making sure there is no confusion for the sake of accuracy in the article. Playstation is too generic. At least one person was confused, hence the comment here. PSOne or Playstation 1 is extremely clear. The goal is to make it more clear, not less. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.102 (talk) 00:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please Note that the MGS4 version of PS3 is backwards compatible. a simple google search verifies this. Sartaj (talk) 13:29, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not believe it's been disclosed whether the 80GB Fall 2008 PS3 will have backwards compatibility or not. The "No" should probably be changed to "Unknown" in the retail configs table. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.24.8.200 (talk) 01:06, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The retail configs table is incorrect in respect of the PS2 backwards compatibility, as it doesn't represent well what is written about this below it. Namely, it lists only the Emotion Engine as included in the 20 and 60 GB NTSC models, while it should state "Emotion Engine + Graphics Synthesizer". Also, it states "Software (emulation)" for the 60 GB PAL and (early) 80 GB NTSC models, while is should state "both hardware (Graphics Synthesizer) + software ([emulation of] Emotion Engine)", or "partly software (emulation [of Emotion Engine])", or something like that. I used to come by people who only review the table, but not read the text below it, and confuse things afterwards.

The configuration of the new SKU is mentioned in one of the references (in the column header). It states that it is the same as the 40gig but with a bigger hard drive. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 00:53, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have changed "Playstation" to "PlayStation One" becuase it obviously causes confusion (with PlayStation as a series of consoles) for some readers. This change does not affect the factual accuracy so I can't see any reason why it shouldn't be written like this. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 00:53, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Firmware Version

The Current firmware is up to 2.35 as of May 15th and Supports all previous fixes including the BLU-RAY PROFILE 2.0 (Blu-Ray LIVE!) which made the PLAYSTATION 3 the first Blu-Ray player with full features. This also prevents the use of Pelican's Codebreaker. Oh well. I yet to be able to use the 2.0 features. 2.35 also fixes issues with some games. AD7BK (talk) 22:54, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This was already mentioned under the Software section but I've noted it in the introduction as well. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 08:00, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The edit I mentioned above was reverted. I really do think this should be mentioned in the intoduction as this is a major feature of the console. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 16:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have now put this back in. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 08:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Playing AVI and DIVX problems

The article should mention that there are many problems with playing avi/divx files. Some just don't want to play. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.48.162.157 (talk) 04:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All .avi and .divx files encoded with the DivX encoder should work. Xvid (and other codecs) is not the same thing. No problems have been officially reported with DivX files as far as I know. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 07:57, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I assumed you meant divx, not diux? ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 08:01, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can also play Xvid files...

Untraceable2U (talk) 04:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah, tt says that in the article, sorry. :) I must be thinking of another codec. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 12:21, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why

Why does no one sell the 80gb model? I just saw above that they're not being released until June; anyone know the exact date? Also, what is the expected availability? 68.50.107.144 (talk) 21:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

June 12, according to this link. Also, please try to ask general questions about the PS3 on forums, as the talk page is not one. They can be more than helpful for this type of question. MastrCake (talk) 22:04, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, I forgot that this doesn't say the actual date. This does. MastrCake (talk) 22:11, 3 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's also only in a bundle. Sony has NO plans whatsoever to continue making separate packages for ONLY the 80 GB System. This means people can expect not to see PS2 support on a PS3 for quite some time. There's also an EXTREME limit to the PS3 bundles stores are getting. Some stores aren't getting ANY at all. One gamestop is only getting a whopping two in all! 68.190.115.253 (talk) 15:15, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This talk page is not a forum, as mentioned above, for discussing the Playstation 3, but for how to improve the article. Please take general questions to the Reference Desk. Useight (talk) 16:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I know. Sorry about that. But I hate registering new users for forums I don't plan to go to, like ever. (IE: Sony's official forums.) 68.190.115.253 (talk) 04:52, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Gun-Metal PS3

Here is the proof... Remove citations please...

http://www.amazon.com/Playstation-Metal-Gear-Solid-Pack/dp/B0014WJ78E

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/5f/3a/8902810ae7a00d438813a110._AA280_.L.jpg

http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2008/05/15/metal-gear-gunmetal-ps3-available-for-pre-order-next-week/

http://www.konami.com/Konami/ctl3810/cp20111/si3327390/cl1/metal_gear_solid_4_limited_edition_playstation3_bundle

Untraceable2U (talk) 04:13, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citations are used so that the reader can verify what they've read. I've added one of the links you posted as a citation. Thanks. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 07:01, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

More recent reviews

The intro of the reception section talks about how "after a series of price drops and the release of several quality titles, the system (ps3) has begun to receive better reviews", but only has a few of those recent reviews - and some aren't exactly that recent. Here's a review of the PS3 from Ars Technica that was only posted a few days ago. Should we include some quotes from this review, or will the reception section be alright as it is? Frvernchanezzz (talk) 04:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the new arstechnica review should be mentioned as it clearly says the console has improved significantly since launch.--Kozuch (talk) 10:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think it is worth mentioning that a couple of new factors contributed to the revival of the system, one of which is the increased popularity of true HDTV (1080p) and blu-ray technology. An example is myself, who is not a gamer. Basically we were looking for a blu-ray player, and after several attempts we surprised found PS3 was perhaps the least expensive quality player in the market. I know many people who have recently purchased PS3 for the same purpose. The bottom line is PS3's graphical processing is better than a computer (yet you can play media files on its' hard drive), and the blu-ray player seems to be very robust compared with other HD players.76.247.159.145 (talk) 18:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the part on the reception seccion were it say's "after price drops and game releases (MGS4) the PS3 has gotten better reviews" strongly needs a reference Hisham-77 1:26 June 30 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 07:27, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

White Color

I read in the article that the white PS3 is out in the US but it's not. And the source you have is saying Sony is planning to release it. So it's not released yet. Hylian pirate (talk) 18:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stops Reading Discs

Alot Alot Alot of playStation3's of what appears to be all models (60 mostly also 40 and some 80's) are at some point in their life (a couple weeks or months) stopping readding all discs this should be on the wiki page and maybe a few statistics on how many? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.36.180.150 (talk) 01:53, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If there were any official news on it sure. But thus far all I can find are forum postings about PS3s not reading discs. Forums aren't exactly the best source for news, so until something official comes up, we're gonna have to sit on our hands until then. Chan Yin Keen | Talk 03:11, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There is a minute failure rate, mostly in the 40GB models. The failure rate is, however, minute. Less than 10%, more than likely less than 5%. Although I believe there have been no official figures released. Secondary sources mostly point to the disc read failure rate being less than 10%, the failure rate compared to the rate of sustained operation is so great that is irrelevant to the article. Seanor3 (talk) 23:11, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's WAY lower than 5% It's less than 1%. Do the maths. There is nothing more than isolated reports of issues, which is hardly suprising with a new format, and 14m units shipped... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.75.83.25 (talk) 12:22, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

because all issues are reported, amirite? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.241.246.76 (talk) 09:09, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Spacing (RESOLVED)

Can anyone see what's wrong with the spacing on the model comparison table. The entries under 60GB in the colors row are not evenly spaced. I have looked at the code and can't see what's causing it. I know it's not a big deal but if anyone can see what's causing it, please fix it. It's bugging me! :) Cheers. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 12:56, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, thanks Silver Edge. I can't really see what you did (the code looks the same) but it worked. Cheers. It was anoying me! ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 16:51, 8 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actual sales

Hey wiki's, just so you all know there is a site that gives you 90% accurate sales data and is updated weekly. the site is www.vgchartz.com Its better than waiting around for official data and is more convenient (eg: the ps3 in america surpassed 5 million just after the release of mgs4) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Soul tech10 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Currently, WP:VG does not consider VG Chartz to be a reliable source, see WT:WikiProject Video games/Archive 38#Old Game Boy game sales, and VG Chartz and WT:WikiProject Video games/Archive 38#VGChartz re-visited. --Silver Edge (talk) 18:16, 26 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Life with PlayStation & Video Service

Kaz announced this today, it's on any PS/Tech headlines, so check it out for more info.

Thanks, but this has already been added to the PlayStation Network article. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 07:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS3 Electricity Usage

I wondered if it was worth putting the PS3's power usage anywhere in the article? This is useful for people considering the cost of leaving a PS3 running folding@home instead of turning the device off. The device uses 185-200 watts when under heavy load. [1]

Craig Mayhew (talk) 22:07, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Slightly untue. 40GB units are 135w max, 20GB/60GB/80GB units are 175w max. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.75.83.25 (talk) 12:24, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Better pictures

Are the images available on the Sony Press Office website suitable for use on the article? I believe they are covered under fair use but the "To do" list suggest a GPL image. http://www.scee.presscentre.com/imagelibrary/default.asp?SubjectID=1530 ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 23:29, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Final Fantasy XIII

Announced to no longer be PS3 exclusive [2] Horrorkld9 (talk) 11:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Just added that to the article. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 11:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Playstation 4 Article Prototype

Knowing well a Playstation 4 addition to Wikipedia would be deleted right away, I propose a thread to build up a release candidate until then. I will never post PS4 information in an article in response to the rules.

Known information about the console

Release date: 2010, but may be delayed to 2011 due to fabrication difficulties...yields especially Cell Broadband Engine 3 (3.2 GHz) is 4 PPEs and 32 SPEs with improved latency technology [2] -4PPUs, 32 SPUs -2010/11 timeframe - 3.8GHz -TFlop performance. -Faster SPE communication -More on chip memory -Performance on PPE significantly better -Performance per SPE equal or better (Significantly better on applications that benefit from new instructions) (Cell Broadband Engine 2 was a dual core CBE with 2 PPEs and 16 SPEs)


Nvidia successor to GT200 (exception: not GT200b) due to the timeline of the G71 and the PS3. 256 MB XDR2 at 3.2 GHz [3] 386 MB GDDR5 at 1.2 GHz [4] PS1 and PS2 emulation and backwards compatible with PS2 due to the Nvidia GPU and CBE 3 backwards compatibility Quad Layer Bluray ROM [5]

[User:Renegadeviking|Renegadeviking]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Renegadeviking (talk • contribs) 17:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No one knows anything about a PLAYSTATION 4, don't be so stupid. The processor you have just described is insane and even if it was in development there's no guarantee that it would be used in the next PLAYSTATION. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.44.61 (talk) 23:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speculating about years ahead technology is much like picking up current technology specs and doubling, tripling or quadrupling all numbers. Everyone knows that CPUs become faster every new generation, it's obvious! 189.102.161.126 (talk) 03:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS3 40gb PAL chrome trim and Possibly the new 80gb PAL

The 40gb PAL PS3 doesn't have a chrome trim, its a dull silver trim and the logo is a sticker but it says that it does have a chrome trim on here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.44.61 (talk) 15:01, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The US version is also a dull silver trim instead of a chrome one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.44.61 (talk) 17:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

80gb release dates

Only the PAL version of the 80gb will be released in August, the NTSC one will be released in September, someone needs to change this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.44.61 (talk) 20:42, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - Added this info. I believe it is notable here as new SKUs are normally release in North America first.

Built in ethernet, 100Mbit Ethernet or Gigabit ethernet?

In the infobox I mean, it doesn't state what spec ethernet it uses, unlike the Xbox and Xbox 360 articles infoboxes. JayKeaton (talk) 08:37, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done clarified. Thingg⊕⊗ 14:31, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The 80Gb SKU (With PS2 BC) is not in production

Amazon, Sony's website, Wal-Mart, Gamestop etc. are not getting any more shipments of this specific SKU. It's being phased out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.149.164.254 (talk) 16:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sony hasn't officially announced it is out of production yet. Thingg⊕⊗ 15:03, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The 40GB PS3(and possibly the new upcoming 80GB PS3) DOESN'T HAVE A CHROME TRIM AND THE 80GB PS3 WITH PS2 BC IS NO LONGER IN PRODUCTION

The 40GB PS3 doesn't have a chrome trim on the base at all,the playstation writing on the top of it is just a sticker that won't peal of and the chrome trim around the disc slot is a dull silver/grey that is plastic,so that means that it doesn't have a chrome trim,this could also be possible for the new upcoming 80GB PS3 because i saw in an official video that it is the excact same as the 40GB PS3 except it has twice as more memory, i know this because i own a 40GB PS3,also the 80GB PS3 WITH PS2 BC is no longer In production because i read an article written by a mole that has worked inside the sony company that they say they are going to phase out the 80GB PS3 WITH BC WITH PS2 GAMES,I'd show you the website i got this from but i don't know how to add cititations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John-joe123 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's all well and good putting it in CAPITAL LETTERS, but it needs to be cited from a reliable souce in order to be included in the article. original research is not allowed. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 20:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The writing at the top of the 40GB is not a sticker. But you're right about the chrome trim; 40GB doesn't have it, unless by "chrome trim" this article is referring to the area around the BD slot. Frvernchanezzz (talk) 09:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I looked into this and I have a question - is this really what the 20 gig models look like? I've only seen that "all black" ps3 image a few times, and I just thought it was a photoshop. If it really is what the 20GB looks like, then does the term "chrome trim" in this article refer to both the bottom strip on the PS3, and also the area around the BD slot? The table should probably show that the 40GB has the chrome around the BD slot, but it lack the bottom chrome strip. It confuses people this way. Frvernchanezzz (talk) 09:20, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I always thought the term 'chrome trim' in the article just referred to the fact that it had a silvery colour there, instead of the black of the 20GB model. Since that whole area isn't chrome this is misleading, but if it just refers to the bit immediately around the bd slot then maybe that is chrome. Chris_huhtalk 12:50, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I always assumed that the "chrome trim" in the table meant it had some chrome trim somewhere on the model. As for whether the 40GB has a different amount of trim, I don't know. But, I do know I've never heard a difference in the trim mentioned in any information from any reliables sources, and thus putting a note in there about any differences in the trim on the 40 GB model (and btw Frvernchanezzz, your link isn't to a pic of a PS3, you may want to check it) would qualify as original research. (which is why I kept removing the note when john was putting it in) Also, john, Sony only announced that the 40GB model has ceased production. They never officially announced that the 80 GB was not in production like they did with the 60GB and 20 GB models. Until they do so, we cannot report otherwise. Back in April/May, a LOT of people kept trying to change it to say the 80GB wasn't in production, and we saw how that one went. Just wait for Sony to make an announcement. (Also, typing in ALL CAPS is not going to make anyone take you seriously; it will do the opposite) Thingg⊕⊗ 17:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
[6] hmmm... I see what you mean. (I never noticed that before) Do you want to change it to "silver trim" or something like that? I really don't want to have to add another note to the table because it's pretty complicated as it is. Thingg⊕⊗ 17:44, 30 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is i have only ever seen a 40GB model, so i don't know if the original 60GB model is different. From what i remember (and that photo Frvernchanezzz linked to) the 20GB model was black. Getting technical, 'silver trim' also wouldn't work is it isn't silver. Maybe 'chrome coloured' or 'silver coloured' trim. This photo of the 60Gb model looks much shinier than this one of the 40, but then that would be OR (see also this photo comparing 20 and original 60). This is only looking at the front dash part of the ps3. People have mentioned a chrome bit immediately around the bd slot, but i don't see this, it always seems to be black. I can't seem to find anything official stating this Chris_huhtalk 10:44, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From images/info on the net, I can't really tell if the trim on the 40GB is a dull silver and not chrome like the 60GB; I've never seen one in real life. But perhaps there should be a footnote from the table saying the 40GB only has the trim around the BD slot, and not the bottom chrome strip - This is what causes the confusion (mostly), and this is why the fellow above tried to change the table. Frvernchanezzz (talk) 09:49, 31 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have owned the 60gb PS3 and have seen a demo model of the 40gb in stores and am 100% sure that it is a dull silver strip instead of a chrome one like on the 60gb. Its just a shame its hard to get citations for this. Not only do I mean the chrome trim on the bottom of the console but also the trim around the BD area where the trim is dull silver unlike on the 60gb where its actually a chrome colour.

PlayStation 3 80 GB Metal Gear Solid 4 Pack - old or new model?

According to the release chart the new 80GB model comes out in August. Does this mean the Metal Gear Solid bundle that came out in June uses the older 80GB model? Or is the release date in the table wrong and it's the new 80GB model? 65.197.19.244 (talk) 21:55, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is the older one. The Seventh Taylor (talk) 06:38, 5 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

best selling game

please change it. the best selling game is mgs4 approaching 4 million copies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.168.181.119 (talk) 21:28, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a reliable source that indicates Metal Gear Solid 4 has sold nearly 4 million copies? --Silver Edge (talk) 21:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/2008/08/06/metal-gear-solid-4-ships-4-million-copies-worldwide.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.168.194.61 (talk) 18:43, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The New 80GB PS3 that is coming to europe might have PS2 backward compatiblity

Well I watched a the video from which i got to by clicking on the cititation beside of where it said the 40GB PS3 was out of production and when i watched they said that the new 80GB PS3 will be the exact same as the 40GB PS3 only with a larger hard drive but do they mean this by the differences are internal or external? I think I am most likely wrong about this but I would just like it if someone would confirm this for me! <-- autosigned by John-joe123--> —Preceding unsigned comment added by John-joe123 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is really more of a discussion for a forum as you are not asking about the article (see WP:NOTFORUM), but every source points to it being identical to the 40gig except for hdd size - in both regions. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 21:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have found a source confirming that the new 80gb PS3 will not have backwards compatibility, http://www.game.co.uk/PS3/Hardware/~r336328/Sony-Playstation-3-Console-80GB/ It says- "The PlayStation 3 80GB model does NOT feature: 

   * Backwards Compatibility with PS2 Games
   * Memory Stick Card Readers
   * SACD Playback
   * Ethernet Cable
   * 4 USB Ports, (The PS3 80GB model features 2)"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.194.186.245 (talk) 08:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do people not think we should put in on the PS3 comparison table of when the models stopped being made

I just tought that we should put in when the PS3 models went out of production on the PS3 models Comparison Table. <--autosigned by John-joe123-->

Do you mean the actual dates? I think this information would be pretty hard to obtain. Simply having a yes or no is hard enough to cite. ChimpanzeeUK - User | Talk | Contribs 21:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree. This would be quite difficult to find for almost all models and finding out exactly when the PAL 60 GB version ceased production would be practically impossible because Sony never said when they ceased production. It would be nice to include it, but like chimp said, I don't think we would be able to find a citation for most of them.

Yes I do mean the actual dates if you could find a cititation for them. <--autosigned by John-joe123--> —Preceding unsigned comment added by John-joe123 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

please add power consumption / silicon process info (ie 90nm vs 65nm) to comparison chart

It would be useful to know that the newer 80g models coming out will be less thirsty and cooler than the 80g models that currently have the 90nm process technology and additional graphics hardware. Maybe power info not necessary, but process info is I think. Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.57.58.217 (talk) 02:08, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What size PS3 do I have?

It would be a good idea for someone to add a little section detailing how to tell what size PS3 a given individual has, as the console itself does not make it clear.

The 20GB has an all-black front.
The 40GB will have a serial number that ends in G## or H##
(The last three digits of the PS3 serial number are a letter and two numbers. The antepenultimate digit of the 40GB is either a G or an H.)
The 60GB will have a serial number that ends in A##
The 80GB will have a serial number that ends in E##
(I do not know the specs on the new 80GB)

I think that information would be helpful for the few people who may not know what size PS3 they have, and want to tell just by external appearance.

The 40GB Playstation 3 is out of production

I just saw the PS3 comparisons table in the PS3 article and it said the 40GB PS3 was in production, yet a while ago it said it was out of production, I thought it was too because i saw an article on gamespot saying that sony are going to phase out the 40GB PS3 and it also says that the 40GB PS3 is out of production in the seventh generation consoles page under "Discontinuations and Revisions". —Preceding unsigned comment added by John-joe123 (talk • contribs) 14:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The new 80GB PS3 without PS2 backward compatiblity is going to be released on the 22nd of august in europe

I saw a link above in the debate about the new 80GB PS3 might have Backward compatibility to the store called game and it said that the 80GB PS3 for europe will be released on the 22nd of august 2008, somebody needs to put this in on the first available line on the PS3 comparisons chart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by John-joe123 (talk • contribs) 14:52, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So when exactly is it coming in the U.S.? Jigsaw 541 (talk) 14:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)Jigsaw 541[reply]

second

PS3 is selling more units per month than the xbox

[7] since February it says PirateArgh!!1! 20:38, 18 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Yellow Light of Death

I would definitely like to see this on the main wikipedia page. The problem has been well established online but is not known by the general gaming public. I believe this is something that should be included in a small section on the main page (especially considering the red ring of death has its own page), and that this is the best way for people to learn about the problem. Just so everyone knows, I am not a troll, I don't own a 360 and I think the PS3 is a far superior system. I just created this account, so I can't edit the main page, and would appreciate if someone else did. Thanks.

This just happened to me tonight. It's verified on IGN and Gamespot forums, and there are plenty of youtube videos demonstrating the problem. It is essentially the same as the Xbox 360s red ring of death. The PS3 dies all of a sudden, and the red light flashes. Pressing the light turns it solid, so the PS3 is in standby. Attempting to turn it on yeilds a green light, and the sound of the fan starting up. The gren light then turns yellow, then the blinking red light returns and the console shuts off.

Sony customer service (according to websites listed below and my own experience) is to offer a refurbished PS3 for $189 Canadian, taxes in, with free shipping. They cannot send back the original playstation, and they cannot transfer your saved games/files/pictures/videos or anything saved to the hard drive. However, your PSN downloads can be re-downloaded to another PS3.

In comparison, Microsoft has extended their product warranty for their similar problem, the red ring of death, to three years, where as Sony has done nothing with its warranties. Microsoft also offers compensation in the form of a free month of Xbox live, on top of a free repaired or refurbished replacement. Microsoft has also made consumers well aware of the problem, where as most PS3 users posting about the Yellow Light of Death seem to have been completely oblivious about it until they saw it on their own consoles. However, the PS3 problem is much more rare than the Xbox problem.

Here are some links to corroberate this information.

IGN Boards - http://boards.ign.com/ps3_lobby/b8269/167858020/p1/?15 Gamespot Forums - http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26384753 PS3 Forums - http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=126088 Overclock.net - http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=126088 Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzSVFIyNbS0 Youtube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ii4FRp_2hm4


Bronyuar (talk) 02:32, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

None of those links you provided are reliable sources, as they fail WP:SPS. --Silver Edge (talk) 03:08, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

playstation 3 surround sound

ive got a HD TV and a HDMI DVD player both have no optical output is it possible to connect a PS3 to surround sound? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.77.62 (talk) 23:34, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

VGChartz

i dont see anything wrong with using VGChartz. i visit them often and theyre predictions are always very close to NPD Groups actual figures. even though vgchartz sales r estimates they r pretty good estimates and i think we should use them. as well as for the xbox 360 and nintendo Wii. --Mark0528 (talk) 01:22, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]


—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark0528 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Several reasons. The fact that it's an estimate is reason enough to be dismissive of it. To reliably report data, we want it to be conclusive, not guessimates that might shift up or down wildly. To get a better idea of what else is the problem, have a read about their methodology. Chan Yin Keen | UTC 12:13, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Playstation 3 article updates

Im not sure if the bots took off my update but i put that MGS4 was the best selling game for ps3 and it took it off. I have the information right here.


[8]--Mark0528 (talk) 01:22, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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